Wow guys, I don't check this thread for a day or two and you're pulling new Izzy collaborations out of the sky, you guys are amazing!!
On a different note, a while ago someone jumped at @Darkenchantress in the main section for saying Patience is an Izzy song. Well, I found a two year old comment by Tom Zutaut claiming Izzy wrote Patience all by himself (among a lot of comments about Chinese Democracy and how the original band was better than the new one ).
To all the internet top commentators above, I still believe Chinese Democracy would have been well received if it had been an Axl Rose solo record. As the guy who discovered the band, signed the band and developed what would become AFD, I will agree with all of you that the original band had 4 great songwriters. Thus with all that songwriting power the original band was stronger. Axl was one of those 4. Over the 14 years it took to get "Chinese Democracy" out he had more time to write plenty of his big power ballads that are what he does best. "Don't Cry", "November Rain" and other ballads like these are what Axl on his own does best. These songs were intentionally left off of AFD to be recorded later for UYI. Thus "Chinese Democracy" had more of these Elton Johnish style ballads that Axl tends to write(even during the AFD days)than any previous GnR record. Add a little bit of Axl's admiration for Trent Rezner and you have an album that really isn't what a GnR fan would expect. I unsuccessfully lobbied Axl during the year(1 out of 14) that I was involved in the production of the record to call it an Axl Rose solo record but it was like trying to take a bone away from a vicious dog. I won't be receiving any cash from a reunion Todd Bryant, and Blake Owens, you are right as I did write that prior to the album coming out years later. I wrote it because I felt the article that was written in the business section of the NYT about "Chinese Democracy" a week earlier had missed a key point-being that no matter what your opinion of Axl is, regardless of his stubbornness and refusal to make it an Axl Rose solo record, he is a true artistic genius not now, nor ever motivated by money. While he may walk a fine line between genius and insanity, as many great musicians and artists do, he was and never will be motivated by money. While I think that most of the musicians playing in this new GnR are great musicians and they can play the songs well, I agree with most of you that the original band played with a fire from the soul that can't be recreated by anyone. Axl's biggest mistake with "Chinese Democracy"-was believing that these new members could write as well as Slash, Duff McKagan and Izzy Stradlin. They could not…no matter how hard Axl tried to make their writing efforts better. What most of you probably don't realize is that Axl arranged, adapted and wrote most of the lyrics for the original GnR. I happen to know that Izzy wrote many songs almost in their totality. "Patience" would be a good example where Axl made no changes but sang exactly what Izzy wrote. Izzy played it for me in total in the kitchen at Rumbo while recording AFD on acoustic while singing the lyrics. What Axl didn't realize during "Chinese Democracy" was that the core song/riffs that the new guys gave him were not of the quality that Duff, Slash and Izzy gave him. So he toiled for 14 years trying to make them right…The best of the non Axl written songs on "Chinese Democracy" was the title track-written by the incredible world renowned drummer Josh Freese. I have to say I have a better mix of it in my personal collection from the year I was there than the one that finally came out. So Sara Kane and Alex Settle, I hope you both understand my view on songwriting and why I wrote that editorial years before the album finally came out.
Wow, look at young Izzy in between John Lennon and Tom Petty