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Ok girls&guys, i tried to put it all in 1 topic, and here it is:

fan:
Imagine you post on the Britney Spears fan forum.

Now imagine the son of Britney's maid posting on the forum and everyone gushing over him because of his association to Britney. Nevermind that he never posts anything notable and is generally annoying.

That's Fernando.

axl:
Might as well start here... You're a little cunt and since you've been posting you've pretty much always been a little cunt. Blind accusations and insults by an anonymous coward and whiny shit stirrer aren't impressive or needed by anyone. Everyone else...talk with your administrator. Who wants to chat?!!

fan:
Pot meet kettle.

axl:
Not real bright are ya?

fan:
No, not really.

Then again I'm not the one who needs a house keeper to wipe my ass.

axl:
Ah... another cunt! So shocking!

axl:
Aw c'mon, nobody wants to play? U go on forever about where am I and I'm right here.

fan:
Yeah, I'm a miserable cunt who's not a fan of the band and Axl doesn't need fans like me.

Reality check here.

The only one's who's a apparently a miserable cunt is somebody who alienates and hides himself from the world and blames fans who pays his bills so he eat his duck roast dinner's.

Axl instead of coming here and calling me a cunt get off your ass and stick your head out of the fucking window. "All I've got in the press is shit after shit" which is exactly what we have gotten. Instead of being so butt sore over what some dude on the Internet says do what you do best put on a helluva of a show and make good music.

axl:
I don't work for you. Just cuz u think so don't make it true.

axl:
Blame the fans?

fan:
I never said you worked for me..

Is it that hard to talk to your fan base? Fuck you're apparently doing it now.

I don't know what Beta and Del have told you but us the fans have put up with your shit were the reason CD sold as much as it did along with every Gn"R record.

After all the years of telling people to suck your dick you'd think you'd grow a fucking pair to actually speak or say something after the release other than hiding in the batcave under your desk while WASP plays with strippers going up and down.

Blame the fans or anybody else seems to be the GN'R moto.

axl:
Why would anyone have to tell me anything? What would you know of anything actually going on in my world. Nice fantasy though, wish I had the time.

fan:
Tell that to Uncle Axl for me.

Does Beta cut his chicken dinner for him or does he actually cut it himself?

I'm not acting tough against a computer screen I'm trying to figure out why the thing's in the GN'R camp is such a mindfuck and get Axl out of this little world of comfort he's apparently built for himself.

axl:
Your misconceptions and fantasies along with your misguided sense of entitlement don't dictate my actions.

admin:
Just so there is no confusion, Dexter is Axl Rose.

fan:
a fight between a forum user and axl rose oh how classic is this

axl:
Nah. Friendly banter by those with opposing views.

fan:
If this is true. I have one question for you Axl. What is stopping the fans from seeing you Slash, Duff, and Izzy back on stage together?

axl:

U've been lied to and misled for such a long time that sorting through all that here is virtually impossible. A lot will come out over time but the truth has been out there for a long time as well but that doesn't give you what you want so this dance just goes on and on.

fan:
thanks for playing Rocket Queen in Melbourne
The red bike was awesome

axl:
I think it's in the Better vid. Not sure if we cut it.

fan:
just a quick question Axl,

how come you always come on stage so late at gigs?

ps I LOVE YOU MAN !!!!!!!

axl:

I've been an after midnight type since I was sneakin' out of my house in Jr. High. With old Guns we preferred 12am or so. When we moved to theaters etc obviously that changes but it's never changed inside me. Doesn't matter what I do so generally that's when I'm more myself. This isn't to mess with anyone that has an early schedule to keep it's just personal preference.

And in regard to the size venues I'm on record as preferring what ever venues allow for our schedule but management and promoters can do a lot in their own interests behind the scenes that can rarely be avoided and their greed or whatever leads to a lot of double talk and ugly behind nonsense that generally eventually ruins things for everyone. Translated once a tour is scheduled however it's like parting the seas to change.

As far as being late, I've been that way my whole life. It drove Izzy crazy but he would check himself and freely admit I was generally actually doing something that had to get done rather than watching basketball etc.

fan:

Hey Dexter,

Just wanted to say I really appreciate the song ‘Scraped’…Awesome work….Also, while I was interning for President-Elect Obama, we all found ‘Madagascar’ to be very inspirational on certain days….Also, seen you in Iowa in ’06 and you certainly didn’t look tardy…and in Ill in 02…I think you and the guys gave top performances…

I can’t believe you entered this particular jungle tonight…haha

axl:
Obama! That's a big gig! I need some presidential press advisors and speech writers!!

I'd like to thank everyone for their positive comments. They're very appreciated.

fan:
Axl do you really have 2 or 3 other albums of material?

axl:
For now we'll concentrate and keep our focus on this album but I will say I've always thought of it as a double.

And no offence but no one's trying to talk in parables. The issues are a bit more complex than anyone would like.

fan:
Axl I would like to know why you avoid the press so much. I think it's definitely hurting album sales, I mean, you haven't even done one interview. I know for sure you'd be able to get a few magazine covers. So why don't you? Why be such a hermit/recluse?

axl:
That's ur opinion and it very well could be true.

What I have to say a lot of people have no desire to hear.

With our team we were able to negotiate thru a mountain of issues to be able to release the album. Within' those negotiations I believed I had secured agreements, commitments and assurances that would have allowed a promotional strategy to be implemented that obviously I've had a fair amount of time to consider. Unfortunately those things never happened and once the record was closer to release the biz went about things in their standard business as usual mode.

fan:
axl, why did you change "the bues" to "street of dreams"??

axl:


The Blues was my first working title and I was never comfortable with it in the sense that I felt that should be used with a bluesier based song. And here in Hollywood with the walk of fame etc I had always seen that imagery in my head when I think of it. I also like the idea of the song having in affect two titles.


fan:
Axl, have you been in contact with steven adler at all? Not as far as playing with him or anything, just to like lend him support?

axl:
do wish Steven the best and in my heart hope that he finds some peace and security. As far as direct contact no. It unfortunately gets too messy too quick. In Steven's mind I'm the one who holds the keys and power over his happiness so I'm the bad guy pretty quickly.

fan:
A video for "Better" was mentioned. Any ideas for a date of release, and/or in what capacities it will be released? What style of video is planned - live footage, some more dramatic theme? Great song. Can't wait to see what you guys have created for a visual.

axl:
Soon is the word as in a week or so.

fan:

Axl, cherry or original flavor Nyquil?

axl:
prefer cherry night time for breakfast around 11pm

fan:

Hey Axl,
Is Mickey going to pay you back for letting them use SCOM in the Wrestler by starring in a new Guns video?

axl:
Actually Mickey agreed to play The Shackler if we were to make a vid for it.

fan:
I keep asking questions (like everybody else, I suppose) and feel stupid for asking so many, but I am also curious as to your relationship with Mickey Rourke. He's one of my favourite actors, and I saw an interview with him recently where he said you were kind enough to give him songs for The Wrestler. My question is: how long do you and Mickey go back, and do you have any interesting stories from "back in the day"? You guys strike me as being pretty similar in a lot of ways (I mean as far as personalities and what you've been through in your lives) and it's cool for me to see two of my pop culture "heroes," for lack of better description, being friends, and also making similarly timed "comebacks." (Or whatever you want to call it.)

axl:
Mickey and I haven't really hung much but have a lot of mutual friends over the years. He's always been massively supportive. I've always been a big fan of his as well. It's probably better for both of us we didn't hang directly back in the day!!

fan:
Who do you listen to for hardcore blues? I'm a blues singer and I can tell from your work that you have at least got way into a couple of blues records

axl:
Bessie Smith, Zep 1, Robert Johnson, Tumbleweed Connection, Janice.

fan:

Axl what do you think about Portuguese girls?

axl:
Lots!!

axl:
Havin' a bit of trouble posting replies. Interrupted connection and all that.

Here's some answers.

Into Sorry musically most rt now.

Estranged and Civil War probably somewhere.

I probably just fucked the song up, wish it had deeper meaning.

Sometimes but not underground!

PC but I use both.

fan:
Hey Axl, is the song Atlas Shrugged as epic as the book? Who is your favorite character from the book?

axl:
Song doesn't have all that much to do with the book other than trying to do what you believe in and a line about shoulders not being wide enough.

fan:
Yeah the internets going slow because so many users are online

Axl was their ever a cover B and cover C for chinese democracy?

axl:
Yes there are. There are 2 more covers/bk cover combos and the real booklet that is all artwork that will be out shortly in some form. It's been an ugly battle that hasn't made any sense to anyone and whether anyone cares about such things the booklet or artwork has always been something I've been passionate about and to release the album with unapproved and unseen final artwork with a !st work only error filled draft when others more recent were readily available still has not been explained but is finally getting cleared up. My fave is the How Are You Grenade cover.

fan:
Axl how do you feel about Kanye outselling Chinese Democracy? Do you like Kanye's music?

axl:
I met Kanye at the Versace awards. He was very gracious. I love Gold Digger and told him so. I'm a big fan of his stage performance as he seems to go for it physically which I relate more to. B4 r release I sent him a msg that any nonsense from the media had nothing to do with us and wished him the best. I'm humbled we've done as well as we have considering.


THE END!!!

Edited by admin, 12 December 2008 - 08:18 AM.

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THE BETTER MUSIC VIDEO WILL BE OUT IN A WEEK OR SO
MONUMENTAL PROMOTION WILL START VERY SOON!

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thanks, that was a good idea....can someone also put together what he wrote on HTGTH? have to work:(

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FROM HTGTH:

Axl on performing late and being late to gigs?


I've been an after midnight type since I was sneakin' out of my house in Jr. High. With old Guns we preferred 12am or so. When we moved to theaters etc obviously that changes but it's never changed inside me. Doesn't matter what I do so generally that's when I'm more myself. This isn't to mess with anyone that has an early schedule to keep it's just personal preference.

And in regard to the size venues I'm on record as preferring what ever venues allow for our schedule but management and promoters can do a lot in their own interests behind the scenes that can rarely be avoided and their greed or whatever leads to a lot of double talk and ugly behind nonsense that generally eventually ruins things for everyone. Translated once a tour is scheduled however it's like parting the seas to change.

As far as being late, I've been that way my whole life. It drove Izzy crazy but he would check himself and freely admit I was generally actually doing something that had to get done rather than watching basketball etc.



On a video for Better?


THE BETTER MUSIC VIDEO WILL BE OUT IN A WEEK OR SO"

MONUMENTAL PROMOTION WILL START VERY SOON!



Who do you listen to for hardcore blues? I'm a blues singer and I can tell from your work that you have at least got way into a couple of blues records.

Bessie Smith, Zep 1, Robert Johnson, Tumbleweed Connection, Janice.



Regarding multiple albums...

For now we'll concentrate and keep our focus on this album but I will say I've always thought of it as a double.
And no offence but no one's trying to talk in parables. The issues are a bit more complex than anyone would like.


Hey Axl, is the song Atlas Shrugged as epic as the book? Who is your favorite character from the book?

Song doesn't have all that much to do with the book other than trying to do what you believe in and a line about shoulders not being wide enough.


Axl was their ever a cover B and cover C for chinese democracy?

Yes there are. There are 2 more covers/bk cover combos and the real booklet that is all artwork that will be out shortly in some form. It's been an ugly battle that hasn't made any sense to anyone and whether anyone cares about such things the booklet or artwork has always been something I've been passionate about and to release the album with unapproved and unseen final artwork with a !st work only error filled draft when others more recent were readily available still has not been explained but is finally getting cleared up. My fave is the How Are You Grenade cover.


Axl how do you feel about Kanye outselling Chinese Democracy? Do you like Kanye's music?

I met Kanye at the Versace awards. He was very gracious. I love Gold Digger and told him so. I'm a big fan of his stage performance as he seems to go for it physically which I relate more to. B4 r release I sent him a msg that any nonsense from the media had nothing to do with us and wished him the best. I'm humbled we've done as well as we have considering.


Axl do you control the weather or is that solely Oprah?

Oprah


Jarmo, do you know the reason behind the name Dexter? Is he a fan of the show (on Showtime)? Just curious...No need to reply if the reason is deemed private/personal.
could be because of the guy from The Offspring, too... but I'd rather it be the TV show.

The show and my cat named after the show, she's a methodical killer.


Hi Axl, how's it going?
Just wanted to ask if you had any fond memories from the UK leg of the tour from 2006, particularly the concert in Glasgow in July?

Glasgow was great. I think that's where I got to do a lot of slides on the stage. Was like a race track or something rt?

Axl, thanks for Chinese Democracy which i personally think is your best work.
what's your pick for album of the year?
and have you heard the new MetallicA album?

Ours of course!!
Yes, I like it.


Axl will you tour Australia next year, and when are you looking at doing so?
If you could work with buckethead again, would you have him just in studio, or also would you welcome him in the touring lineup?

Austrailia's great and the crowds are really alive. No plans yet but I'm sure there will be.

I have no issues with Bucket. It's hard to tell what was real or not in things we were told by Merck. He's more than welcome to tour with us in some form or other provided we're both interested at the time and come to some type of reasonable terms. Personally I have a blast w/Bucket on tour and get a big kick out of the guy. A lot of feelings were hurt on this side of the fence in how things went down and unfortunately others used our silence and the public's not knowing for their own purposes at both Bucket's and our expense.


Now that you said that please tell us if Robin's out or not... because, otherwise, we'll be reading several 'Axl wants Bucket back and Robin/Bumble/Richard out' type of threads for the entire '09 year and these threads annoy us, the new lineup fans.

It really is what it is. No decisions have been made by either him, I or us that I'm aware of.

When we're touring or working in the studio or there's social things like a friend's dinner or party whatever we would hang. But as people get older they have their own lives. The Stones aren't going bowling every Tuesday etc.

Robin leads one of the most different lives I know of starting with the trapeze in his backyard to the tv in his closet. Robin's work on the next is done so there's not lots for him to do here except the elusive promo and he'd rather be on stage.

It's more about seeing where things are when Guns decides it's right for a tour and if we're able to make agreements we both are comfortable and can live with at that time.


As a native Colombian I must ask:
In 1992, while performing November Rain in Bogota (in November), it rained.
Wait no....it poured.
How weird was that, eh?

Very surreal and religious feeling. So was being chased by the military in our plane down the runway gettin' outta Dodge there!!


Hi axl!
just wondering what stops you from playing more guitar live?

skill


Hey Axl,
Are you checking your PM's???

Not rt now. It's a bit slow getting around on here rt now.
Let's talk about Catcher!!
Who's 1st?


Axl/Dexter, I'm fixing to pack everyhting I own into my car and drive out to L.A. from Arkansas to give a career in music a shot. Any advice? Or should I just shit in my pants, dive in and swim?

Follow your heart, don't sell out and read every book on the biz u can find.


Catcher is one of the best songs on the album, why no Brian?

There's a few reasons and none of them all that big and definitely not in spite or to slight anyone.

1st off obviously I knew people liked the song but the Brian appreciation really only showed up in force publicly after we had moved on in Guns. In fact Not many seemed to care and most comments were aimed at why Slash in their opinions should be here.

Brians solo itself is a personal fave of mine and I really couldn't understand as he's such a rock legend why it wasn't openly appreciated more at the time.

In actuality all that feel and emotion referred to now had a lot to do with Sean and I and the parts I chose out of Brian's different runs, versions, practice runs etc to make sure we had those elements in one version. It's entirely constructed from edits based around one specific note Brian hit in a throw away take. And though Brian seems to have warmed a bit to it at least publicly he was unfortunately none to pleased at the time with our handiwork.

I remember looking at Brian standing to my left and him staring at the big studio speakers a bit aghast saying "But that's not what I played."

Sean Beavan and I were not in any way tring to mess with Brian we just did what we do and then try and do our best to stand up for our decisions.

Axl are you still thinking of suing Dr Peppers ass?

Sure but the actions taken so far had nothing to do with me and I was taken off guard as I had specifically told our team who fucking cares rt now we have a record to deal with.

My feelings are after their public response. It was cute.

Maybe the guy who got it rolling originally meant well but it turned out sour and maybe it's just me but he seems like maybe he wants a bit too much attention so...


I'm sorry for posting this again! It's just..I don't get this chance everyday!
Ever still think about working with Jeff Lynne I think you two would be fuckin awesome together.
Would you ever give an unkown band a chance to open for you guys?
How do you feel about Double Fantasy? I could see u covering watching the wheels
Have you seen the movie The Aviator any thoughts it is my favorite of all time.

Not presently but he's a true hero of mine.
Absolutely. I think we have or at least relatively but I could be mistaken
Big Lennon fan.
I piss in jars all the time only I throw them at people!! j/k


when are the online shop opening?

I haven't been involved much in any of our merch and the reasons are it's been a mess legally for years. Unbeknownst to most of you I was recently sued again by Duff and Slash for some murky Merckiness that I was unaware and not involved in. Fortunately that was resolved but it got ugly and took a while going into arbitration.

Merck shifted our merch from some of our newer styles to incorporating more of the old with some scam that actually and surprisingly lost sales in comparison but that's old news.

What I look forward to is incorporating the new artwork into our merch and getting some for myself. I think u'll like a lot of it. My vote's for the How Are You grenade and the Sorry automatic rifle artwork on shirts etc.


?

I do like the lyrics.

I wrote a paragraph or so on the new booklet and more on the story of what's out now but it got lost in the traffic jam.


DEXTER/AXL,
How do you feel about artists covering your songs ?

Depends but in general it's great.


Hey Axl , whats your favourite song from either Chinese Democracy, or from an unreleased album?

The bridge in "Elvis Presley and the Monster of Soul aka The Soul Monster (working title Leave Me Alone)" which will no doubt end up "Soul Monster".

I think it's r most Black Sabbath moment. Sang it on a Christmas eve. Imo the meanest section of anything I've sung to date. Which having said that I'm sure when it's heard others may disagree but we felt it was a Christmas card of unadulterated venom so to speak. I felt a lot better afterward.


Axl, how is your relationship with the former members/friends of GNR???

Not sure I understand the question.


Axl, do you know of any steak house in the Los Angeles area better than The Cut?

Haven't been but I hear it's great. Maestros T.O. is pretty good.

Someone give me a list of all the alleged song titles at once and I'll tell what's real or not. Most from the past like cockroach soup or eulogy aren't.


Atlas Shrugged
No Love Remains
Take That
When Love Collides (I believe that was the name)

only Atlas


I know this is jumping the gun big time, but any tentative idea when you would like to see the next CD come out?


No, maybe same bat time, same bat channel next year but we'll have to see.


Hey Axl,
Is there anything in the past that you have now looked back on and thought maybe I culd have handled that differently, also what are your ongoing hopes for GnR in the future?
I have cyclothemia and sometimes get this feeling that I cant be around people and need my own space and area, how do you find the bipolar effect you, if you dont mind me asking that is?
thanks again for doing this.

Alex


Of course but in the world of sports and litigation....

I've not been diagnosed as being bipolar though many misconstrue statements I made earlier as alluding to such and unfortunately there's been an abundance of misguided or unqualified speculation of various events but I definitely can relate to needing my own space.

In my world all bi polar means (and not to offend or make light of those suffering from a genuine condition or involved with those who are) is that someone can try to take cheap uneducated shots or try to claim I'm bipolar thus justifying why they should get paid a financial settlement for whatever nonsense they're up to. Fortunately that hasn't proved successful.


Axl,
- What is your honest opinion on why the old lineup disintegrated ?
- What is your honest opinion on why it took so long for CD to come out ?
I think that's what most people want to know but dare not ask ...

2 great but complicated questions and I agree that people would like to know at least my take on things.

Not avoiding them here but they deserve more than I can give as we've been at this a little while. But I'm attempting to speak out on several issues these being a major focus over the coming weeks and months. What I can say now is u've been told a lot of things in order for others to promote themselves that factually they cannot backup in regard to either. They are complicated legally, financially and have devoured a good portion of my life.

The record Chinese u may have is nothing short of a miracle in almost each and every way that either it or I exist imo under the bizarre and ugly conditions of the last over 15yrs.

Thanks everyone and thanks for all the support and the positive comments both 2nite and over the years. I hope to do this again soon, maybe sooner than u'd think! And u didn't scare me off I'm just burnt and would rather not mispeak on issues that may mean a lot to some.

Thanks again.

Peace,

Axl-

And Checkmate is a bogus title.
















The working title is Jackie Chan.
Dexter/Axl:
Dec 12 2008
THE BETTER MUSIC VIDEO WILL BE OUT IN A WEEK OR SO
MONUMENTAL PROMOTION WILL START VERY SOON!

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How did I miss this? Man,I wanted to give Axl a shout out from Toronto. Fuck,I thought mom having died from cancer 4 months ago and not having Christmas and being broke sucked.....now,I missed my chance to at least say "hi". 2008 has really sucked for me. :(

God,I sound like a blubbering idiot.
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That "fight" at the beginning. If someone from the press wants to use that in a negative way, there are so many possibilities there. I really hope it doesn't happen, but I'm afraid it will. Hopefully that won't kill the chance of Axl someday coming back and posting some more.
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Sorry, I'm a little confused. Can someone point me to the post where it's confirmed that Dexter's Axl? I had a quick skim through the thread and it seems that he just turns up and people accept he's who he says he is...

ETA: Obviously it seems to be confirmed, people seem to be accepting him - I'm just curious as to how it all went down.

Edited by 11dayempire, 12 December 2008 - 07:39 AM.


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Sorry, I'm a little confused. Can someone point me to the post where it's confirmed that Dexter's Axl? I had a quick skim through the thread and it seems that he just turns up and people accept he's who he says he is...

ETA: Obviously it seems to be confirmed, people seem to be accepting him - I'm just curious as to how it all went down.


ERIC CONFIRMED IT, AND SO DID JARMO.
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Sorry, I'm a little confused. Can someone point me to the post where it's confirmed that Dexter's Axl? I had a quick skim through the thread and it seems that he just turns up and people accept he's who he says he is...

ETA: Obviously it seems to be confirmed, people seem to be accepting him - I'm just curious as to how it all went down.


Eric and Jarmo confirmed it.


EDIT: Demon Wolf was faster :D

Edited by Mango, 12 December 2008 - 07:43 AM.

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OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH is this place going *****EXPLODE**** once the day crew comes on here in a little while :) :)

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Sorry, I'm a little confused. Can someone point me to the post where it's confirmed that Dexter's Axl? I had a quick skim through the thread and it seems that he just turns up and people accept he's who he says he is...

ETA: Obviously it seems to be confirmed, people seem to be accepting him - I'm just curious as to how it all went down.


ERIC CONFIRMED IT, AND SO DID JARMO.

Oh, okay - was all the confirmation done over PMs then?

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Sorry, I'm a little confused. Can someone point me to the post where it's confirmed that Dexter's Axl? I had a quick skim through the thread and it seems that he just turns up and people accept he's who he says he is...

ETA: Obviously it seems to be confirmed, people seem to be accepting him - I'm just curious as to how it all went down.


ERIC CONFIRMED IT, AND SO DID JARMO.

Oh, okay - was all the confirmation done over PMs then?



It was him. No doubt. It was almost coordinated with the admins.
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Sorry, I'm a little confused. Can someone point me to the post where it's confirmed that Dexter's Axl? I had a quick skim through the thread and it seems that he just turns up and people accept he's who he says he is...

ETA: Obviously it seems to be confirmed, people seem to be accepting him - I'm just curious as to how it all went down.


ERIC CONFIRMED IT, AND SO DID JARMO.

Oh, okay - was all the confirmation done over PMs then?



It was him. No doubt. It was almost coordinated with the admins.

Gotcha - yeah, I just spotted the "In case anyone's wondering, it's Axl" post buried in there. Pity I missed it, would've been nice to say hello.

Edited by 11dayempire, 12 December 2008 - 08:08 AM.