AFD5 Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 I never thought of them as NuGnRs I always viewed it as The Axl Rose Band. Guns were & will always be Axl & Slash. Just like The Stones Mick & Keef, The Beatles John & Paul, Zep Jimmy & Robert. I know this will ruffle a few feathers but that's how I always looked at it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerenityScorp Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 20 minutes ago, Babooshka said: At one point he tried to dissolve the band, I think in 2010. Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRfan2008 Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 1 hour ago, KiernanProud said: I think he said in the TMZ interview it would take a couple of weeks. Plus it's just impossible that it's healed and he's up in less than 4 weeks. The injury happened April 1st. We are past 4 weeks. What he said at the airport makes me think either it will be off in time for the first show or it will definitely be off for the second show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killuridols Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 3 hours ago, Lies They Tell said: I don't think Axl's bored with GNR. He sounds amazing on these AC/DC clips for the simple reason that AC/DC songs suit his voice much better than most GNR songs. Axl always sounds amazing when he screams and weaker when he's just singing. And AC/DC songs are all about screaming. That's why he sounds so good. It's as simple as that. For example look at some video where Axl's singing Better. He sounds kinda weak in the beginning, but as soon as the screaming part starts, he sounds amazing. And it's not just Better. If you forget about YCBM which requires an inhuman voice, pretty much every single GNR song that is all about screaming sounds incredible. But songs like SCOM where he has to sing instead of scream, tend to sound weaker. AC/DC songs are non stop yelling. That's why he always sounds great on them. No need to try to find deeper motivational reasons behind it. Oh and Axl definitely didn't sound like shite on these last GNR shows. He sounded great, just not as good as in 2010. While it is true about the ACDC songs, I don't think Axl sucks when "singing". Listen to TIL, Patience or Knockin On Heaven's Door. He has to sing on those and he does an amazing job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cobraetti Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, KiernanProud said: I think he said in the TMZ interview it would take a couple of weeks. Plus it's just impossible that it's healed and he's up in less than 4 weeks. According to the video with the orthopod (posted 4/8), the plan was to start putting weight on it after 4 weeks so I'm guessing the cast is either going shortly or already gone. They'll probably switch to a removable soft cast or some such Edited May 3, 2016 by Nick Cobraetti grammar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Archer Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 2 hours ago, AFD5 said: I never thought of them as NuGnRs I always viewed it as The Axl Rose Band. Guns were & will always be Axl & Slash. Just like The Stones Mick & Keef, The Beatles John & Paul, Zep Jimmy & Robert. I know this will ruffle a few feathers but that's how I always looked at it. No need to be apologetic. There are plenty of your persuasion here, so you are in good company. Of course, a lot of us think otherwise though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Archer Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 (edited) 4 hours ago, killuridols said: I agree with most of what you said, except that he sounds like crap in 2016 for GNR. The reason he's bored with GNR is because he's been on tour forever with the nuGNR. He worn out the excitement. While on nuGNR, aside the counted occasions the set list would consist of many CD songs, he could never stop playing most of AFD or else people wouldn't have attended the show. This is proof that everybody was right before: Axl should have gone solo, release at least 3 albums with his band, and now come back for the reunion fresh and excited. He's like a kid in a toy store now with ACDC, of course, it's a whole different set list. It's a challenge and he's under the direction of someone else. Team Brazil are also part to blame for his laziness. They don't have the strong hand Axl needs to keep him motivated and doing stuff. Why he's been rehearsing with GNR? Same reason than with ACDC: someone else is in charge of the tour, he's signed a millionaire contract he can't break, Slash and Duff must have added this as one of the main conditions to return, etc. Conclusion: Axl needs real professional management in order to function right. I'm really scared of what's gonna happen after the tour ends. That's going beyond stating opinion. Really, how do you know whether he is motivated or bored - I mean, how can you tell how he is feeling? He's done a tour almost every other year over the last decade. We don't know for a fact what his musical output has been in that time, or in the 'lost' decade before that. Axl is a complicated individual, based on what we've seen throughout his history. For all you know, Team Brasil is what's keeping aspects of his life together for him. Maybe he needs some structure, or a strong hand, maybe he doesn't. What's clear is that he doesn't live his life based on the opinions and whims of those in GN'R fandom and while it may not be all good for us, good on him for that. For whatever it's worth, something seems to be going right in his life right now - with him accepting Slash and Duff on whatever terms he has, to peaceably and even joyously work together and then, do this amazing thing with AC/DC. Let's just hope that good things continue for him behind the scenes. Edited May 3, 2016 by The Archer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lies They Tell Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 18 minutes ago, killuridols said: While it is true about the ACDC songs, I don't think Axl sucks when "singing". Listen to TIL, Patience or Knockin On Heaven's Door. He has to sing on those and he does an amazing job. True! I don't think he suck on any song. I meant that he tends to sound weaker when he sings, compared to when he screams. That doesn't mean that he always sounds weak when he sings though. He sounds great when he sings with a lower voice for example on Don't Cry. But when he sings with a higher pitch voice, he tends to sound weaker, for example on SCOM. When he screams he always sounds good, and that's why AC/DC songs suit his current voice so well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lies They Tell Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 2 hours ago, Babooshka said: At one point he tried to dissolve the band, I think in 2010. He's been obviously bored with nuGNR for years. The band became a burden to him imo. He may be rejuvenated with Slash back and the bigger crowds etc, but the ac/dc thing is also going to be exciting. The man has been creatively dead for so long, this has got to be a welcomed change. I hope it pumps him up for the summer tour and gets him into good shape. I'm sure that he's excited to work with AC/DC, but that's not the reason why he sounds good on those songs. He's probably happy to have Slash back in the band too, and perhaps he had lost his motivation at some point. At least in early 2014 he seemed a little bored. Maybe even depressed. But I'm not sure if I agree with your view on how long his lack of motivation has been going on. Is there any proof that he tried to dissolve the band in 2010? Or is that just another MSL rumour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Archer Posted May 3, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted May 3, 2016 (edited) 17 hours ago, Ak1nney said: Nope. He is actually rehearsing because I am sure it is part of his contract to do these gigs. AC/DC isn't going to just show up and hope Axl knows stuff. And I don't know what you're talking about. Axl has sounded pretty damn amazing so far. Axl is going to bring it at these AC/DC shows and on the summer tour. If he was burnt out on GNR, he wouldn't be doing a summer tour. This. The guy isn't singing for Def Leppard or Bon Jovi. He's singing for AC/DC and apart for filling in for maybe Robert Plant, there are no bigger shoes to fill. So, he shows some seriousness and then suddenly, he's lazy and bored and half-assing things when it comes to his own music, just because he actually DOES put in some effort in another direction, and when things are looking up overall? Sure, things have not always been up to expectations or rather, his vocal performances and his overall direction of the band have seen their ups and downs. It's not as if anyone knows about everything that's going on in his head, or with his vocal cords or in his life. Even if he's disappointed the fandom in the past, he's been giving plenty of recent indications that things are changing and that he has a better grip on many things. Seeing some people's reactions, they won't ever be happy, even if he reunites their favorite line-up and knocks off another Appetite. I can just imagine the reactions after such a hypothetical event "He didn't have enough rasp in every song, he didn't do a video with the snakedance for the lead single, he didn't smile at Slash for the first live performance, the album bombed because he missed his chance." I get it - these folks love Axl in a weird way. In a WEIRD way - as if they are entitled to have him live and perform and deliver according to their every expectation. He's not perfect, and he might do a mickey, or he might do the screaming banshee when you see him next; there's just no telling and it's not in your hands, and that's just part of the fun with him, so just get over it and enjoy the shows. Edited May 4, 2016 by The Archer 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post WhazUp Posted May 3, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted May 3, 2016 16 hours ago, DieselDaisy said: I know people were going nuts over the reunion shows and it was great seeing the three and the hysteria and 'Coma' (etc etc etc) but you know in your hearts Axl still sounded like shite. You can only speak for yourself on that one, I honestly think Axl has knocked it out of the park so far in general in regards to the 2016 shows. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicson Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 If Axl sounds like shit in 2016 ( which is madness) don't listen to it. It's so easy and that simple! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 1 hour ago, vicson said: If Axl sounds like shit in 2016 ( which is madness) don't listen to it. It's so easy and that simple! Well I wouldn't be able to assess whether he was shit (or not) if I did that! I mean I wouldn't know anything - he could have been quite brilliant for all I would know, so what sort of logic is that haha? 2 hours ago, WhazUp said: You can only speak for yourself on that one, I honestly think Axl has knocked it out of the park so far in general in regards to the 2016 shows. Maybe 'shit' was a bit strong but I personally only detected a marginal improvement from 2014 to 2016 (reunion), with still frequent interludes of Mickey. On those AC/DC clips he sounds like he did in 2006 with the full on rasp. Big difference! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 (edited) 30 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: Well I wouldn't be able to assess whether he was shit (or not) if I did that! I mean I wouldn't know anything - he could have been quite brilliant for all I would know, so what sort of logic is that haha? Maybe 'shit' was a bit strong but I personally only detected a marginal improvement from 2014 to 2016 (reunion), with still frequent interludes of Mickey. On those AC/DC clips he sounds like he did in 2006 with the full on rasp. Big difference! I definitely do think he sounds great in the AC/DC videos for sure, I cannot wait to hear him rock out during the shows! Although I do think that Axl is all around a lot stronger vocally, sure Mickey does pop up but I think that a lot of the issue is Axl's mid range, not necessarily hitting the high notes. With the AC/DC tunes Axl will be up in his consistently decent high range for the majority of the time. But even then, maybe it is just the fact that Axl has been sitting, but I have noticed a lot more energy even with the Mickey voice going on Edited May 4, 2016 by WhazUp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live Like a Suicide Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 8 hours ago, AFD5 said: I never thought of them as NuGnRs I always viewed it as The Axl Rose Band. Guns were & will always be Axl & Slash. Just like The Stones Mick & Keef, The Beatles John & Paul, Zep Jimmy & Robert. I know this will ruffle a few feathers but that's how I always looked at it. How can you say that when your name is 'AFD5'? lol. Guns N' Roses is a sum of its parts, and it's arguable that Izzy, Duff and Steven had profound influences on the early band. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedrolg Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 18 minutes ago, WhazUp said: I definitely do think he sounds great in the AC/DC videos for sure, I cannot wait to hear him rock out during the shows! Although I do think that Axl is all around a lot stronger vocally, sure Mickey does pop up but I think that a lot of the issue is Axl's mid range, not necessarily hitting the high notes. With the AC/DC tunes Axl will be up in his consistently decent high range for the majority of the time. But even then, maybe it is just the fact that Axl has been sitting, but I have noticed a lot more energy even with the Mickey voice going on I's more than that, imo. His voice on that Thunderstruck clip goes beyond his usual raspy high notes such as he does in Jungle or Nightrain. It has that depth, that rasp that sounds almost artificial for a human being, and that hasn't been really heard since 2010. It sounds like a chainsaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Archer Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 6 minutes ago, Pedrolg said: I's more than that, imo. His voice on that Thunderstruck clip goes beyond his usual raspy high notes such as he does in Jungle or Nightrain. It has that depth, that rasp that sounds almost artificial for a human being, and that hasn't been really heard since 2010. It sounds like a chainsaw. Yes, just not quite enough depth for Hells Bells, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedrolg Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 4 minutes ago, The Archer said: Yes, just not quite enough depth for Hells Bells, unfortunately. Quite enough, he is a stand in. He sounds absolutely glorious on those clips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SerenityScorp Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Guns N' Roses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunsguy Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 3 minutes ago, SerenityScorp said: Guns N' Roses? Should say Axl's shit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axlslash Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 (edited) 26 minutes ago, gunsguy said: Should say Axl's shit Yup. It's Axl's trunk, check the label with the CD era logo with Axl's name. My guess is they added ACDC so that it'll get handled with the other ACDC stuff. I wouldn't read anything more into it. Edited May 4, 2016 by axlslash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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