Asia Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 13 hours ago, Powerage5 said: Could be interpreted either way. I'm guessing he meant for the AC/DC tour though, since he put the lightning bolt emoji at the end. Sure, because it's a breath of fresh air. Doing the same shit can be stagnant for a musician. You're reading way too far into this. I see Steve Harris play with his side band British Lion to a crowd of 100 people in a bar where they can barely fit five guys on stage, and he looks like he's enjoying himself more than he does onstage with Iron Maiden. Does that mean he's going to dissolve Maiden so he can focus on his other band full time? Of course not. He's not doing the same shit, for God's sake, that's the whole point! He hasn't been performing or writing with Slash and Duff for twenty years so what same shit are you talking about?! Had they beeen together for the last 20 years or was he going on tour with the Ashba lineup with which he already got bored, fine, I'd understand. But this is the first tour with Slash and Duff in 2 decades and yet he doesn't care and only misses ACDC. Well, that's lame. And this is music not some chair factory. If someone is sick of doing chairs and still makes them cause they have to provide for themselves, I don't care. If they're professionals it doesn't show in a chair. But a lack of interest of a musician in the art he performs will always show because that's what it is all about - the heart that someone puts into it. And if Axl's heart isn't into it, then we're being ripped off. Sadly. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stella Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 (edited) 7 hours ago, Blackstar said: As others said, the AXL/DC thing was something new and exciting for him; he sang some of his favorite songs with one of his favorite bands and he had fun. Moreover, the majority of AC/DC fans, among them the die-hards, although skeptic to say the least, gave him a chance and finally accepted him. He feels grateful. This doesn't mean he puts AC/DC over GnR. GnR is his band, his legacy and his biggest achievement in life. That said... ... and although no one can tell what's in his head, it's possible that he felt he couldn't go on with GnR forever. I don't think it's because he got tired or bored (he said he liked the pre-reunion lineup), but because he realized that NuGuns was going nowhere after CD and he was frustrated. If this is the case, the reunion, with a big tour and hopefully new material, is proper closure for him; he's made peace with Slash, he gives the fans what they'd been hoping for all these years, and at the same time the CD era is being acknowledged and established as part of the band's history, since Slash and Duff play the songs and there are NuGuns members in the lineup. Regardless, from what he said in the China Exchange interview, it seems that the reunion is very important to him and he wants it to work. ITA. He might be happy at this stage in his life doing different projects - it doesn't mean he wants to discard GnR. It seemed he really was a fan of AC/DC and was happy to be a part of their shows. Duff has a zillion different bands that he actively plays with, and it seems to work for him. During the heyday of GnR both Axl and Slash worked with other musicians. Sometimes a change of scenery can be nice. Axl's Axl and he refused to have anything to do with a reunion for years, despite all the people who were pressuring him. I don't think he would do it now unless he really wanted it and had decided to fully commit to it. There are rumors here and there that they're writing new music; his renewed friendships with Slash and Duff might inspire him to keep going with GnR. I do think that he'd probably wound up things with NuGNR, and that if the reconciliation with Slash and Duff hadn't happened, he would have moved on. Edited June 19, 2016 by stella 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphelmo Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 This song is bad, really bad. There's no connection with GNR in it, I hope... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vloors Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 33 minutes ago, Ralphelmo said: This song is bad, really bad. There's no connection with GNR in it, I hope... If anything theres more of a connection to avocados in it lol but yes horribly written track. Whats happened to Izzy? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Słash Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 The reality and the fact is that Steven Adler has written better songs than Izzy and Axl since the past couple of years. Alive, Fading, Waterfall, Just Don't Ask, Good to be bad. Those are some amazing songs. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatVin Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 9 hours ago, James Bond said: Nothing extremely exciting but it's a 15 second clip of rehearsals. Unfortunately, the audio isn't live (it's just the studio track) and it mostly highlights Duff since it's a Fender exclusive. Haha, love Mellissa listening to her bose headphones through the hoodie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenni19 Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 1 hour ago, BatVin said: Haha, love Mellissa listening to her bose headphones through the hoodie I think it is very cool that she is in gnr, I like her much more than pitman. Her sining sounds very good and makes the Songs better i think 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scumcat Esq. Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, Slash787 said: The reality and the fact is that Steven Adler has written better songs than Izzy and Axl since the past couple of years. Alive, Fading, Waterfall, Just Don't Ask, Good to be bad. Those are some amazing songs. Alive is a kick-ass song. It's great that they made a sing along version too. Edited June 19, 2016 by Scumcat Esq. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Słash Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 16 minutes ago, Scumcat Esq. said: Alive is a kick-ass song. It's great that they made a sing along version too. I din't know it had a sing along version too, but its a great song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy14 Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Wow, much ado about nothing Axl's tweet. Of course he misses it, he's just been a part of rock'n'roll history. They are his lifelong idols, he must have been thrilled singing with them. This European Axl/DC tour has been a huge thing not only for the fans but also for Axl and acdc. Axl has won over many nay sayers and has proven he still got it. That doesn't mean he no longer cares about GNR. I think it's given him new energy and motivation for the upcoming tour. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 (edited) 18 hours ago, Fitha_whiskey said: Now Slash has tweeted a photo of the old ad for the Clapper. Clap on, clap off... What the fuck is going on up in Rock City today???! Not sure but it's pulling teeth for anyone in the GNR camp to explain anything. It's a shame.. This could be a record setting tour but oh well, maybe the next one Edited June 19, 2016 by Billsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 12 hours ago, john lennon said: Don't you think I'm aware? Do I look serious n stuff like that? I never meant to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerenityScorp Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 (edited) No more Itunes only? :/ Edited June 19, 2016 by SerenityScorp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Słash Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 12 hours ago, Kmartin9928 said: Whats the common thing between Matt and Izzy No one asked them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Archer Posted June 19, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted June 19, 2016 (edited) 19 hours ago, Asia said: He's not doing the same shit, for God's sake, that's the whole point! He hasn't been performing or writing with Slash and Duff for twenty years so what same shit are you talking about?! Had they beeen together for the last 20 years or was he going on tour with the Ashba lineup with which he already got bored, fine, I'd understand. But this is the first tour with Slash and Duff in 2 decades and yet he doesn't care and only misses ACDC. Well, that's lame. And this is music not some chair factory. If someone is sick of doing chairs and still makes them cause they have to provide for themselves, I don't care. If they're professionals it doesn't show in a chair. But a lack of interest of a musician in the art he performs will always show because that's what it is all about - the heart that someone puts into it. And if Axl's heart isn't into it, then we're being ripped off. Sadly. That is a big, big if right there. Why are you absolutely intent on forcing unsubstantiated theories about how Axl feels about the reunion, or about how Slash and Duff need to be treated by him, or about what they should all do to make a success of the reunion? Your earlier theories that Slash and Duff have been done wrong, by Axl guesting with AC/DC, were disproved by the fact that they came out to surprise him at the AC/DC gig in London, and were thrilled to see him do well, and have said so on the record. It seems that they are just fine with how the reunion and prep for it are going. A lot of speculation then, don't you think, that Axl is going to do something as big as a reunion, something that he has resisted for a long, long time, publicly and privately, without his heart being into it? Heck, we all know how much he hated the idea - both those of us who supported him in the past, and those of us who didn't. He wouldn't even discuss the idea of a reunion publicly. The fact is, he's not the type of guy to do something till he's ready to it. When he came on to these very forum boards all those years ago and directly addressed these issues including the release of CD, past history, the break-up of the band, and the possibility of the reunion to us fans, one thing was very revealing, at least for me. I remember asking him then why he chose to address these issues 'now, at this time' and not earlier, and as I remember, he responded saying that it was the right time for him and that he felt that he could only discuss them now. All his replies also showed how much the band and the Guns N' Roses name and GN'R's success meant to him. Now, this is something that I've gauged about him from limited, but direct personal experience. But, even if you don't have evidence from personal experience or understand these things from an instinctual standpoint, you don't have to be too insightful to realize that the pattern holds true - countless public interviews and incidents, point to the same truths about him. If he wouldn't even think of discussing the reunion and reunion related rumors at the right time without being ready, it would be really, really, really doubtful that he would get into the reunion itself without being ready, or with the intention to just half-ass the live performances (future plans are another thing, because precedent shows that these guys have had problems working together before, so we'll need to wait and watch). But, as I said, even if you don't instinctively get that it is unlikely of Axl to proceed with and continue such a big venture against his will, or without full commitment, just look at the long pattern of events - he really has been an all or nothing kind of guy. Going by past events / precedent, it would have to be a brainwashed Axl clone that agreed to a reunion with 'the artist formerly known as Cancer', and then did things 'without his heart in it'. Also, it might be surprising to many, but whether or not most people consider Guns N' Roses to be Axl's band or not, he certainly does. Even if you don't want that to be the truth, it's just difficult to change what Axl thinks about it. From that perspective, whether it's a new version of the post CD line-up, Slash and Duff returning, or the AFD5 reforming, or Jimi Hendrix rising from the grave to do twin lead with Slash, it will still be Guns N' Roses to Axl; still his baby, and something that he cares a helluva lot about. But, all the same, just his regular job and life and existence, and another chapter in the Guns N' Roses story to him. Maybe, you care more about the Guns N' Roses band, its history, its name and its ongoing and future success than Axl himself does? Sorry, but that is improbable. So, to speculate that 'he doesn't care and misses only AC/DC' is not just disingenuous, it is making stuff up to fit your perceptions of how things are, or how they should be. Also, how would you know Axl 'misses only AC/DC' ? That would be illogical. If he states he misses AC/DC, does it mean that he doesn't miss anything else in his life? Can you tell that he doesn't miss his Mom, or his cats, or his favorite sofa, or being lean as he once was, or eating his favorite Taco Bell? C'mon. You just can't, and you don't know. He doesn't miss other things, only IF he says he misses them. To show that he is committed to the success of Guns N' Roses with Slash and Duff, does he HAVE to say that he misses them too and that he can't wait to succeed with them, just a week after he hung out with them, and the whole world knows that they are going to go out on tour now? He doesn't. Linking his motivations or lack thereof, to do well with Gn'R, to his obvious happiness at having done well with AC/DC is not based on fact and is unfair speculation. People are thrilled to do great, or even do well, at unique or special side projects, while carrying on with their primary and life-long work and passions (even when these have big things going on), all the time. So, just because Axl acts contrary to what you think is the way he should be acting, it doesn't mean that his intentions with respect to the reunion are mala-fide. I get the intense desire to see the reunion succeed - every GN'R fan desires the same. But it seems a little far fetched to wish things to go good for Slash and Duff (and Axl too, I hope), more than they themselves seem to be happy for, and as far as both the reunion and Axl/DC are concerned, they (Slash and Duff) seem perfectly fine with how things are going. What you are doing is not unusual - fans sometimes want their idols to succeed more than they themselves want to, or think themselves capable. But, to complain when things don't go exactly the way you wish they would for your idols, when they themselves seem content and positive about the direction of things (particularly when there is clear evidence of it), is illogical. Edited June 20, 2016 by The Archer 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby845 Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 @The Archer It's all about the spirit..people have the urge to immerse and engage into it the same way they did the first time they found out about GnR...they need to feel that surprise and freshness of the moment...but the AFD or UYI spirit of the time cannot be replicated - that's why this feels somewhat less of an experience.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitha_whiskey Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Anything to be made of Slash's latest tweet showing the Godfather Corleone sitting at his desk, petting a cat on his lap? Bahaha! Maybe he's been reading this shit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gordon Comstock Posted June 20, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted June 20, 2016 Soundchecks probably starting tomorrow then? I'm looking forward to the 30 second cell phone clips already goddammit 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kira Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 On 19/06/2016 at 7:44 PM, Whiskey Rose said: Haha, I'm going to go there too..you know why? Because, and I am sorry, but these lyrics are terrible. I'm going get a lot of hate for this, I know..cause it's Izzy. Now I haven't heard the song, but this is so simplistic, that it literally could be the theme song for Sesame Street or something..so therefore, I HOPE it's alluding to GnR members! Axl has a white wall around his house right? Ok so he's a definite barrier to Izzy..and why bring the imagery of a dog up twice in the same song?? So therefore yes, Slash and Duff are the other barking egos..but why are they only surrounded by a chain link fence? Are they more open to him? yet still unable to fully reach him...hmm.. What I find funny, is I know it drove Axl crazy how simply Izzy did things. And here the guy is...writing a song about walking down the fucking street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeppelinrocksnexttognr Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 34 minutes ago, Kira said: What I find funny, is I know it drove Axl crazy how simply Izzy did things. And here the guy is...writing a song about walking down the fucking street. while Singing Do-wa-diddy-diddy-dum-diddy-do? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Rose Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 21 minutes ago, Kira said: What I find funny, is I know it drove Axl crazy how simply Izzy did things. And here the guy is...writing a song about walking down the fucking street. haha! so true. I just heard the first part of the song, seems kinda catchy, so in the end, maybe these type of lyrics are the way to go..perhaps Axl can counter/join in, with a song about sitting in the back yard having a Bud.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willl Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 22 hours ago, killuridols said: Those lyrics are so shitty that the fact some are reading hidden meanings from them is pretty telling of the triumph of addictive substances on the brains of people. Hope you don't think I'm trolling you @killuridols since we got into the Izzy topic in another thread, but we definitely have different opinions and I can't help but jump in to respond to your posts as they are so opposite to my opinions Please don't get me wrong, I'm definitely not an Axl hater, but GNR fans waited from 1993 until 2008 for Chinese to be released, and it had lyrics like: Quote Gonna call the president Gonna call a private eye Gonna get the IRS Gonna need the FBI There's not anymore That I can do Axls scream in I.R.S is f'n badass we can all agree, it's just a shame that lazy lyrics like the above usually make me skip the song before I even get to the scream. Izzy may not be the best lyricist ever, but he has consistently knocked out one catchy tune after another since leaving GNR (119 originals in total). Back in March/April Izzy said he was writing again, then a week ago he said he was mixing a song, and already us Izzy fans are hearing it for free. A lot may not consider it his best song to date, but the significant majority are enjoying it for what it is - yet another solid tune with that RNR spirit. Don't you wish that Axl were more like Izzy? Knocking out an album of 10 decent songs every year? They may not be "epics", some may be filler, but nothing on Chinese was worth the wait anyway.... it couldn't possibly live up to the hype/mysteria. Just hit the record button, rock the fuck out, and release it..... rinse and repeat. I'd be as happy as a pig in shit if Axl would take this route I think most of us diehards would be more than happy with Axl just screaming a load of bollocks over some killer riffs with the occassional solo thrown in for good measure 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian girl Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 In the meantime, from Erin's official account: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgnr Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Guess this is the context. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shjtjustgotreal Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 36 minutes ago, dgnr said: Guess this is the context. dayyyyyyyuuuum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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