Popular Post estranged_85 Posted February 24, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted February 24, 2017 8 hours ago, jekylhyde said: Now they are middle-aged millionaires. They couldn't be dangerous even if they tried. It would be pathetic for them try to act like some crazy out of control 20 year olds.. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 18 hours ago, estranged_85 said: This thread's only topic seem to be about insulting the band members. These guys behind the computer screens, are they adults one would wonder.. I'm all for freedom of speech but cmon? Where are the moderators? Why don't start a subforum where all this grown up people can write aaall day long about how Melissa's "three dots" look like or her instagram posts and everything else that you guys seem so absolutely wrong about her. I mean some days you have to go through pages and pages to find some social media updates just because it's filled with insulting crap. There are a large number of people on here who seemingly just look for stuff to complain about. I totally agree, great post 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RussTCB Posted February 24, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted February 24, 2017 19 hours ago, estranged_85 said: This thread's only topic seem to be about insulting the band members. These guys behind the computer screens, are they adults one would wonder.. I'm all for freedom of speech but cmon? Where are the moderators? Why don't start a subforum where all this grown up people can write aaall day long about how Melissa's "three dots" look like or her instagram posts and everything else that you guys seem so absolutely wrong about her. I mean some days you have to go through pages and pages to find some social media updates just because it's filled with insulting crap. Let me start by saying I don't disagree with you overall, but there is a difference between moderation and censorship IMO. When users break the site rules, we moderate them. We do not censor them if they have a different opinion though. In some respects, I totally agree with you. To me, it's a "if you don't like it, don't look" situation. I couldn't (can't) stand DJ so I never looked at his social media and never commented on it. Melissa doesn't matter to me one way or the other, but I still don't feel the need to comment on everything she posts. Others do though and often times it's negative. There's nothing we can do about that because in the end, everyone is allowed to have their opinion. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gracii Guns Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 19 hours ago, estranged_85 said: This thread's only topic seem to be about insulting the band members. These guys behind the computer screens, are they adults one would wonder.. I'm all for freedom of speech but cmon? Where are the moderators? Why don't start a subforum where all this grown up people can write aaall day long about how Melissa's "three dots" look like or her instagram posts and everything else that you guys seem so absolutely wrong about her. I mean some days you have to go through pages and pages to find some social media updates just because it's filled with insulting crap. The moderators are here… and while none of us want anyone being rude, we're often criticised for being too heavy handed. We have a set of rules which are reasonable, and we moderate according to those. Just seen Russ post… basically what he said. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian girl Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 19 hours ago, estranged_85 said: This thread's only topic seem to be about insulting the band members Did you check the threads on Steven Adler's interviews? you can find much more insults towards axl slash and duff, there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom-Ass Posted February 24, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted February 24, 2017 The Moderators do a great job here. This place used to be a complete shit show.... 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post beautifulanddamned Posted February 24, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted February 24, 2017 The moderators do really well walking a very fine line. Not always an easy job. I figure a forum is meant to be a place where people come to express their views, and not everyone sees the same thing the same way. That's what makes it fun. I agree that it sucks when things devolve into "Axl's hair looks like shit! I hate this band!" That's dumb and tedious. But what kind of horrible "forum" would have page after page of: Axl sounds great. This is a good show. The last show was a good show. Slash sounds good. I love Appetite. Dizzy is hot. I mean honestly? This tour has been good to occasionally great, but it has very seldom been interesting. That's why any bump in the road creates a fuss here. And that's fine. It hurts no one. I don't agree with everyone all the time but the debates are still good and worthwhile and I enjoy reading them. I agree that things can get personal with the band members but they are public people who don't pay attention to us and if someone hates the direction a certain thread is going in stop reading the thread. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcon Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Sometimes I feel like this is all I read around here. 1 hour ago, beautifulanddamned said: Dizzy is hot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estranged_85 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 2 hours ago, Italian girl said: Did you check the threads on Steven Adler's interviews? you can find much more insults towards axl slash and duff, there... Yes i have read Adlers interview topic.. I guess i didn't wanna write an essay about every thread on this forum. My point is well stated in what I wrote. And when I wrote " insulting the band members" I do include Duff axl slash as they are band members lol. There's a difference in insulting people and give your opinion of something/someone I do love this forum and to discuss music and different theories with other fans but I don't get why some have to be just so mean. Enough of me, I have stated my point. Let's move on. peace 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEPTEM Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 2 hours ago, beautifulanddamned said: The moderators do really well walking a very fine line. Not always an easy job. I figure a forum is meant to be a place where people come to express their views, and not everyone sees the same thing the same way. That's what makes it fun. I agree that it sucks when things devolve into "Axl's hair looks like shit! I hate this band!" That's dumb and tedious. But what kind of horrible "forum" would have page after page of: Axl sounds great. This is a good show. The last show was a good show. Slash sounds good. I love Appetite. Dizzy is hot. I mean honestly? This tour has been good to occasionally great, but it has very seldom been interesting. That's why any bump in the road creates a fuss here. And that's fine. It hurts no one. I don't agree with everyone all the time but the debates are still good and worthwhile and I enjoy reading them. I agree that things can get personal with the band members but they are public people who don't pay attention to us and if someone hates the direction a certain thread is going in stop reading the thread. Thats fine.. But some people here really take things to shamefull levels. So permanently out of proportion and intentionally crossifing the same gunners day after day. But now its pretty obvius whats the "moderators angle". I just hope nobody in gnr camp came here anymore. Its embarrasing. Thank god the band is happy, ruling, tight and pretty confy with each other. And we have soooo much gnr good news, shows and more ahead of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estranged_85 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, RussTCB said: Let me start by saying I don't disagree with you overall, but there is a difference between moderation and censorship IMO. When users break the site rules, we moderate them. We do not censor them if they have a different opinion though. In some respects, I totally agree with you. To me, it's a "if you don't like it, don't look" situation. I couldn't (can't) stand DJ so I never looked at his social media and never commented on it. Melissa doesn't matter to me one way or the other, but I still don't feel the need to comment on everything she posts. Others do though and often times it's negative. There's nothing we can do about that because in the end, everyone is allowed to have their opinion. I get what you're saying.. but for me there's a difference in having an opinion of someone in the band and insulting or being just really mean almost bullying. Of course people should have the right to express if they think someone in the band does something good or bad but alot of these posts I'm talking about have absolutely no discussion value or slight of respect. It's just mean immature behavior. I feel almost sad for someone who got the need for insulting another person for their looks or others sort of things. It's different if someone just thinks "oh I think Axl should get rid of some many jewelry on his fingers" instead of "look at that fat fuck did he think he was some pimp rapper or something" you get my point haha. As I just wrote, I stated my point let's move on ? Edit: all things don't have to be Black or White. I didn't mean that you all have to be all positive about everything and everyone doing 100% Axl's voice is perfect etc.. but it doesn't require that much to get my what i meant with my original post. ? Edited February 25, 2017 by estranged_85 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estranged_85 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 (edited) 57 minutes ago, dcon said: Sometimes I feel like this is all I read around here. Haha Edited February 25, 2017 by estranged_85 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 20 minutes ago, SEPTEM said: Thats fine.. But some people here really take things to shamefull levels. So permanently out of proportion and intentionally crossifing the same gunners day after day. But now its pretty obvius whats the "moderators angle". I just hope nobody in gnr camp came here anymore. Its embarrasing. Thank god the band is happy, ruling, tight and pretty confy with each other. And we have soooo much gnr good news, shows and more ahead of us. To me recently the issue has just been a lack of objective logic on the side of the fans. We like to think we know what is going on behind the scenes in GNR land and are so eager to blame a person or a side of the argument without having enough real information. Thus resulting in stupid statements and baseless assumptions taken as truth. For me if someone is unnhappy with the sound of the band, Axl, etc. I am totally cool with that. But when stupid arguments or statements are made based on faulty logic that is where is can get messy in specific threads (like the Steven Adler oriented ones as of the past few days) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RussTCB Posted February 25, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted February 25, 2017 35 minutes ago, estranged_85 said: I get what you're saying.. but for me there's a difference in having an opinion of someone in the band and insulting or being just really mean almost bullying. Of course people should have the right to express if they think someone in the band does something good or bad but alot of these posts I'm talking about have absolutely no discussion value or slight of respect. It's just mean immature behavior. I feel almost sad for someone who got the need for insulting another person for their looks or others sort of things. It's different if someone just thinks "oh I think Axl should get rid of some many jewelry on his fingers" instead of "look at that fat fuck did he think he was some pimp rapper or something" you get my point haha. As I just wrote, I stated my point let's move on ? Edit: all things don't have to be Black or White. I didn't mean that you all have to be all positive about everything and everyone doing 100% Axl's voice is perfect etc.. but it doesn't require that much to get my what i meant with my original post. ? The short version of my answer is "I hear ya" but here's the long version: As I said, I totally get where you're coming from. I actually touched on this on @Elevation516's podcast last week. I actually got out of music forums for a LONG time because everyone seemed to want to just shit on anything and everyone who didn't agree with them. For some dumb reason I decided to make a comeback to GNR forums which are way worse than the Pink Floyd forums I used to read. I don't mean to call anyone out but I'm going to anyway lol: I think users like @Tom-Ass, @RONIN and our old friend @magisme have valid points. Do they sometimes go too far?? Oh, of course, but don't we all? We're all passionate about this band. I really believe that no one comes here just to make negative comments. I think most users want and wish the best for GN'R all of the time. However, they're let down consistently one way or the other by the band and they get frustrated. Allowed everyone to vent their frustration is just part of the service we (read: @downzy) allow here, so overall there's no harm in it. I know it can be frustrating to read what seems like all negative comments all the time, but I assure you that's not the total picture. This is coming from a person who's favorite GN'R guitarist is Robin Finck and who's favorite GN'R album is Chinese Democracy. You think I don't get sick of negative comments? If not, read that last sentence again and try to imagine some of the bile thrown my way in the last 15+ years lol. In short; we're trying our best to balance everything and provide a place for everyone. PS: These comments were typed after having finished a fifth of Canadian Club, so I hope they make any sense at all 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post beautifulanddamned Posted February 25, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted February 25, 2017 6 minutes ago, RussTCB said: I don't mean to call anyone out but I'm going to anyway lol: I think users like @Tom-Ass, @RONIN and our old friend @magisme have valid points. Do they sometimes go too far?? Oh, of course, but don't we all? We're all passionate about this band. I really believe that no one comes here just to make negative comments. I think most users want and wish the best for GN'R all of the time. However, they're let down consistently one way or the other by the band and they get frustrated. Allowed everyone to vent their frustration is just part of the service we (read: @downzy) allow here, so overall there's no harm in it. This is really a perfect way to put it. I honestly think all the Steven threads are the absolute perfect illustration of it. If there is any single issue on these boards that is going to cause a ruckus with hardcore fans it is the issue of why the AFD 5 aren't on that stage together right now. And shouldn't it be? Who is GNR? What is GNR? When you think of this band who do you think of? Of course that subject is going to dominate around here. It's so much more important then what you think of Melissa's hair or why Axl doesn't sound the same way he did in 1988. I don't mind all the passion about it because it deserves attention and you can see the love people have for this band coming from all sides of the equation. Yes, sometimes the speculation veers off wildly, but frankly that's all we have. That's all they have given us. They don't owe us an explanation, and it wouldn't quell the unhappiness but an explanation would put some of the wild theories to rest. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 25 minutes ago, beautifulanddamned said: This is really a perfect way to put it. I honestly think all the Steven threads are the absolute perfect illustration of it. If there is any single issue on these boards that is going to cause a ruckus with hardcore fans it is the issue of why the AFD 5 aren't on that stage together right now. And shouldn't it be? Who is GNR? What is GNR? When you think of this band who do you think of? Of course that subject is going to dominate around here. It's so much more important then what you think of Melissa's hair or why Axl doesn't sound the same way he did in 1988. I don't mind all the passion about it because it deserves attention and you can see the love people have for this band coming from all sides of the equation. Yes, sometimes the speculation veers off wildly, but frankly that's all we have. That's all they have given us. They don't owe us an explanation, and it wouldn't quell the unhappiness but an explanation would put some of the wild theories to rest. If I could like this twice, I would. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesecake Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 41 minutes ago, beautifulanddamned said: frankly that's all we have. That's all they have given us. They don't owe us an explanation, and it wouldn't quell the unhappiness but an explanation would put some of the wild theories to rest. OMG THIS. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncitingChaos Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 The truth is usually way crazier than we wished to imagine when it comes to GNR. I don't think the speculation has ever gone too far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Ass Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 1 hour ago, RussTCB said: If I could like this twice, I would. lol Shouldn't have drank a whole fifth? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scumcat Esq. Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 On 22.02.2017 at 10:59 AM, LA_0013 said: A girl posting a no makeup selfie in the GNR social media feed. Crazy times On 22.02.2017 at 11:02 AM, Fansince88 said: Remember kids, this was once the most "dangerous band in the world" ..... A girl without makeup is the most dangerous thing in the world. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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xBrownstonex Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 (edited) I dont know why someone would wanna do a pathetic bday-vid like this in the first place, and why someone who receives this, would want to post this to show off. Her social media is starting to annoy me. Slash must be rolling his eyes constantly. i have no hate for melissa, but if someone considers her an idol, its time to put on the straitjacket. Edited March 2, 2017 by xBrownstonex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jane M. Posted March 2, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted March 2, 2017 9 minutes ago, xBrownstonex said: I dont know why someone would wanna do a vid like this, and why someone who receives this, would want to post this to show off. Her social media is starting to annoy me. Slash must be rolling his eyes constantly. I am not the biggest of Melissa but at least she's paying attention to her fans and took the time to watch the video and thanked them for the nice gesture. That's very cool or lit, as she would say. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xBrownstonex Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Yes it is, but i just find this social media behaviour in general pathetic. From both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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