Jackie Moon Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 re: the late startsmost of the music world thinks its a jokemost of the people outside the venue think its a jokemost of the people inside the venue think its a jokesome band members think its a joke. who's left? axlband members just happy to be therefans just happy to see the show whenever it happens (im one of them)cancer comments, guitar hero lawsuit, late starts. i dont think any of this will bring axl down, train is going to keep a rollin not in spite of these things ,but because of these things, axl is interesting - no doubt.but, axls legacy has dug a hole no amount of bucket pittman awesomeness can dig him out of. he can blame slash all he wants, but truth is, dude is his own worst enemy and most of us know it.IF it were an isolated incident...exactly. high five for us agreeing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbominableHoman Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 You think I like hating on Axl? Dude brings it upon himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Moon Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 (edited) You think I like hating on Axl? Dude brings it upon himself.unfortunately we all end up in one of three campsdisdainindifferenceignorancei would say im in #2. i dont really care about the late starts - whatever.... but im not going to ignore the issue. ill call it the way i see it. Edited December 3, 2010 by Jackie Moon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunsguy Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 everyone in this tread has something in common, we all agree sometimes the band is late, right? Right.Yet here we are at 11:55PM EST on a message board talking about how late is late? Man I am confused right now, is it not all past our bedtimes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevelle Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 What the fuck else is new. That's what happens when you live next to a stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbominableHoman Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 everyone in this tread has something in common, we all agree sometimes the band is late, right? Right.Yet here we are at 11:55PM EST on a message board talking about how late is late? Man I am confused right now, is it not all past our bedtimes?COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young_Gun Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 everyone in this tread has something in common, we all agree sometimes the band is late, right? Right.Yet here we are at 11:55PM EST on a message board talking about how late is late? Man I am confused right now, is it not all past our bedtimes?You have got to be kidding me, using that analogy. Right now we are not paying good money to see a band play. Right now we aren't waiting on our feet for over an hour to see the said band play. Right now we are not kept awake by an outside source. We are in the comfort of our own homes doing whatever. Linking the two is not relevant or logical. And besides, its 4.07PM here in Melbourne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdlove Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 While I think the majority of that article is fabricated, I dont think Axl is ever right on something like this. He has a fucking 5 star hotel in his dressing room, he has no excuse in coming out so late each time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 I meant more the people that CHOOSE to live near an outdoor venue then complain about it.in university i lived with 15 guys, we had a neighbor who used to call the cops on us quite a bit when we were loud and partying post midnight.4-5 of my roommates took the "if you have a problem with it, why do you live close to a university?" approach.it was wrong then- it's wrong now. no excuse.Gunsguy - I'm a huge Axl guy. But seriously dude. Your unwillingness to ever be critical of him really takes away from our ability to take your posts seriously. I know u don't want Axl to come on the forum and call you a lesbian cunt - but it's ok to call him on his bullshit moves..Bottom line, the homeowners have EVERY right to complain and I hope the venue is fined. My house is literally 50 feet from our high school football and baseball field. And BEFORE I bought it I called the school and the city to see what the noise ordinances were. No inning may began after 10 pm on weekdays and 1030 pm on the weekend end. If these australian homeowners were told by the city that there were time and noise regulations - and those ordinances are BROKEN - they have every right to throw a fit..If Axl gave a shit, he would have simply told the crowd "due to circumstances out of our control, we are now going over the time limit. OUT OF RESPECT to the people who LIVE HERE, we're gonna finish the show with an acoustic set." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Moon Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 or stage a sit down protest where he fought the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunsguy Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 You guys are right, sorry I am wrong guns going on before 10pm is far to late. Sorry I defended it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbominableHoman Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Now you're mocking us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdlove Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 or stage a sit down protest where he fought the man.That was awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Are you for real? Nobody is saying that 10 pm - on its own - is the problem. The problem is the band playing PAST a city ordinance time. It doesn't matter if that time is 5 pm or 3 am. And the problem is they were louder than the city noise ordinance. GG you are defending the WRONG fucking thing. Seriously man, I like most of your posts......but you are turning in to Jarmo. I HATE it when people use the axl or slash "nutt-swinger" comments.....but you have turned into that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunsguy Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Are you for real? Nobody is saying that 10 pm - on its own - is the problem. The problem is the band playing PAST a city ordinance time. It doesn't matter if that time is 5 pm or 3 am. And the problem is they were louder than the city noise ordinance. GG you are defending the WRONG fucking thing. Seriously man, I like most of your posts......but you are turning in to Jarmo. I HATE it when people use the axl or slash "nutt-swinger" comments.....but you have turned into that guy.ok, what time was the curfew? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highvoltage Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 cant remember but according to promoter time they should have been on 10 min after Korn finished, having said that Korn were late as well, the whole thing started later then ticket said...Nope, Korn started at 7.00pm and finished at 8.00pm sharp. Guns had 30 minutes to set up and be on stage at 8.30 as they were scheduled to do. The stage was ready at 8.15pm. Korn didn't finish late. They didn't start late either - they were on stage 10 minutes after Shihad left the stage.The residents? Reid park is in the middle of nowhere. There's one apartment complex about 700m away and that's it. That was the only residential space that would have been affected by the noise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunsguy Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Well I am willing to bet the residents of that place would complain about noise for any show? I just don't think the show was that late, fuck in some shows they didn't get on till 1+am NOW THATS LATE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Moon Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 or stage a sit down protest where he fought the man.That was awesome.i loved it. not for the principal, just for the ridiculousness of it.if hes going to be late, at least make it interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunsguy Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 or stage a sit down protest where he fought the man.That was awesome.i loved it. not for the principal, just for the ridiculousness of it.if hes going to be late, at least make it interesting. that was defiantly interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Oh My Gosh. Are you really tha afraid of Axl getting pissed at you? I don't know what the specif time was. I don't know what the noise decibel level is. I don't know, and I really could care less..I'm a huge fan of the new band. Seen them twice. And I'm dying for a new album. BUT opening the forum and the first story is about another late show.......fuck me. How many times is enough???? Today, the current GnR is known to the music industry people (promoters, venue owners, record labels, etc) and to rock fans NOT for chinese democracy....but as being the band that is always late. .If next week we all see a headline on the Net or a story on MTV that says "Band starts an hour late, promoter fined, fans pissed and singer walks off stage".......is there any doubt that you wouldn't know it was GnR? That GunsGuy is the problem. Not 10 pm, not Korn, not a venue or the people who own homes around it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdlove Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 or stage a sit down protest where he fought the man.That was awesome.i loved it. not for the principal, just for the ridiculousness of it.if hes going to be late, at least make it interesting.I loved it because it was an Axl only thing. While it was for a stupid reason, it is something only GnR would do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuddMckagan Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Just saw this on the news. Must've been a slow news day if this actually made it, but whatever.It showed clips of the show, shot with news camera so it was pretty good quality. "Blah, Blah, Blah late start blah blah blah inconsiderate..." The came the accusation of miming. It showed like 30 seconds of Shackler's where he was clearly miming...ok. But the next thing kinda got me.A clip where he was CLEARLY miming Jungle. Now I wasn't at the show, so I don't have a first hand account of this, but miming Jungle? Jesus. Not cool. I hope this was a one time thing, or a slip up, cos I don't want to be at a show where Axl decides not to sing one of the key songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Just saw this on the news. Must've been a slow news day if this actually made it, but whatever.It showed clips of the show, shot with news camera so it was pretty good quality. "Blah, Blah, Blah late start blah blah blah inconsiderate..." The came the accusation of miming. It showed like 30 seconds of Shackler's where he was clearly miming...ok. But the next thing kinda got me.A clip where he was CLEARLY miming Jungle. Now I wasn't at the show, so I don't have a first hand account of this, but miming Jungle? Jesus. Not cool. I hope this was a one time thing, or a slip up, cos I don't want to be at a show where Axl decides not to sing one of the key songs.I call bullshit. I don't care how bad his voice is, Axl would not lipsync WTTJ. I demand to see this video.As for Shackler's, they didn't even play that song at the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Thanks high voltage. GunsGuy....you must feel pretty silly now for defending Axl for the late start time. Don't worry though, the rest of us know he is always late. Hence, we wouldn't blame other factors for it (like u were doing). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdlove Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Clear bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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