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Currently I'm doing sound recording tests, I'm unhappy with the results I achieved previously.

Today I was testing the Vintage Modern just fooling around (not a real song, I recorded the riffs and then added midi bass and drums) and it came like this, what you think of the tone?

 

 

 

 

That's Marshally as fuck! Sounds good!


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Yeah I do envy the "size" of the sound, can't think of a better word for what I'm trying to describe. My recordings with an SM57 never come out as loud/clear, though I don't do any post production or even have a proper interface.  :lol:

 

Yeah Klay, I definitely hear the Slashy tone in that, I know you're in Europe, but if you're interested I can give you Frank Levi's e-mail address. He's still doing mods, and is very open to discussion regarding customization, very reasonable prices when compared to most other modders. And I think shipping to NY would be easier for you than LA. Just figured I'd mention, I know you're pretty set on amps right now though.


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Axl - Hammerstein Ballroom 5/17/06, Continental Airlines Arena 11/08/06, Susquehanna Bank Center 11/26/11   VR - Starland Ballroom 5/18/07, PNC Bank Arts Center 8/17/07
Slash - Borgata 5/22/10 and 9/17/10,  Terminal 5 9/14/10 and 5/7/15, Ram's Head 5/3/12 and 5/13/15, Irving Plaza 5/22/12, Wellmont Theatre 8/3/12, House of Blues 9/14/12, Sands Bethlehem Event Center 7/16/13, Jones Beach Theater 7/10/14


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Thanks ZosoRose!

 

Omar, I'm not really after Slash's tone or any other tone. The Vintage Modern is my voicing,

distinct Marshall grainy tone! On top of that, it has great sustain and all the gain you could wish, no need for pedals

which I never used anyway - actually it has too much gain so I replaced a pre-amp tube to lower the gain.
My problem is capturing the right representation of the tone I hear in the room, which is just great.

I do like trebly tones and I set my amps like that; I think that the lower frequencies should all come from bass and kick

drum, the guitar should be all upper mids and treble to make a nice contrast and don't overlap. But you are right,

frequently and with different amps I hear comments that my tone is trebly (even on live shows), it seems like only I enjoy

these tones!

For hard rock tones I like George Lynch's Dokken tones from the 80s (some recorded with the same original Marshall AFD amp

as used in Appetite) , Brian May (Rangemaster treble Booster + AC30) and Mick Mars Motley Crue Girls Girls Girls album

(modded Plexi) - they're all upper mids ad treble.
Above all of that is Peter Green; he played Fenders, Marshall's, Oranges and always sounded amazing; some say it was the

out of phase pickups but Gary Moore bought him his Les Paul and never sounded anywhere as good.


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Yup Mick's was a Jose modded, and George was the Levi one. So it makes sense. What did you do with the VM? Put a 12AT/AU7 in V1?


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Slash - Borgata 5/22/10 and 9/17/10,  Terminal 5 9/14/10 and 5/7/15, Ram's Head 5/3/12 and 5/13/15, Irving Plaza 5/22/12, Wellmont Theatre 8/3/12, House of Blues 9/14/12, Sands Bethlehem Event Center 7/16/13, Jones Beach Theater 7/10/14


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The Vintage Modern is a single channel with 2 modes, much like the AFD100:

- in Low Dynamic Range (LDR) mode you only have 1 pre-amp tube for gain stage (first tube, V1)

- in High Dynamic Range mode (HRD) a aditional pre-amp tube is added to the circuit signal (first V1 and second  V2 pre-amp tubes are used for gain)

 

All controls including the gain knobs are shared. Due to this design when you change from LDR to HDR you have a big jump in gain and volume.

Some people use a single mode and then either in LDR with a boost pedal for lead playing or in HDR adjusting the volume knob for playing rhythm when needed.

 

I love both modes so I want to use them both when needed. I like to have LDR with maximum gain, it's still low overdrive and gives you perfect and dynamic/responsive plexi tones from the 70's (Led Zep, Aerosmith, Fleetwood Mac, ....); but then when I switch to HDR it's too much gain and would have to reduce it to 6/10.

 

What I did was remove the stock ECC83 pre-amp tube in V2 and put a lower gain ECC81 which has around 40% less gain; however with the gain on 10 it's still to much in HDR so I'll swap it with a ECC82 which has around 80% less gain than the stock ECC83.



 


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The Vintage Modern is a single channel with 2 modes, much like the AFD100:

- in Low Dynamic Range (LDR) mode you only have 1 pre-amp tube for gain stage (first tube, V1)

- in High Dynamic Range mode (HRD) a aditional pre-amp tube is added to the circuit signal (first V1 and second  V2 pre-amp tubes are used for gain)

 

All controls including the gain knobs are shared. Due to this design when you change from LDR to HDR you have a big jump in gain and volume.

Some people use a single mode and then either in LDR with a boost pedal for lead playing or in HDR adjusting the volume knob for playing rhythm when needed.

 

I love both modes so I want to use them both when needed. I like to have LDR with maximum gain, it's still low overdrive and gives you perfect and dynamic/responsive plexi tones from the 70's (Led Zep, Aerosmith, Fleetwood Mac, ....); but then when I switch to HDR it's too much gain and would have to reduce it to 6/10.

 

What I did was remove the stock ECC83 pre-amp tube in V2 and put a lower gain ECC81 which has around 40% less gain; however with the gain on 10 it's still to much in HDR so I'll swap it with a ECC82 which has around 80% less gain than the stock ECC83.

 

 

 

The Vintage Modern is a single channel with 2 modes, much like the AFD100:

- in Low Dynamic Range (LDR) mode you only have 1 pre-amp tube for gain stage (first tube, V1)

- in High Dynamic Range mode (HRD) a aditional pre-amp tube is added to the circuit signal (first V1 and second  V2 pre-amp tubes are used for gain)

 

All controls including the gain knobs are shared. Due to this design when you change from LDR to HDR you have a big jump in gain and volume.

Some people use a single mode and then either in LDR with a boost pedal for lead playing or in HDR adjusting the volume knob for playing rhythm when needed.

 

I love both modes so I want to use them both when needed. I like to have LDR with maximum gain, it's still low overdrive and gives you perfect and dynamic/responsive plexi tones from the 70's (Led Zep, Aerosmith, Fleetwood Mac, ....); but then when I switch to HDR it's too much gain and would have to reduce it to 6/10.

 

What I did was remove the stock ECC83 pre-amp tube in V2 and put a lower gain ECC81 which has around 40% less gain; however with the gain on 10 it's still to much in HDR so I'll swap it with a ECC82 which has around 80% less gain than the stock ECC83.

 

 

Yup, ECC81 is the European name for 12AT7, and ECC82 is 12AU7. V2 seems to make sense since you're targeting the HDR mode.


Axl - Hammerstein Ballroom 5/17/06, Continental Airlines Arena 11/08/06, Susquehanna Bank Center 11/26/11   VR - Starland Ballroom 5/18/07, PNC Bank Arts Center 8/17/07
Slash - Borgata 5/22/10 and 9/17/10,  Terminal 5 9/14/10 and 5/7/15, Ram's Head 5/3/12 and 5/13/15, Irving Plaza 5/22/12, Wellmont Theatre 8/3/12, House of Blues 9/14/12, Sands Bethlehem Event Center 7/16/13, Jones Beach Theater 7/10/14


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Here's the original guitars recording just like they were captured, without any post-EQ / processing:

 

 

 

Here's the version with the high end presence enhanced:

 

 

Which do you prefer?



 


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I think I slightly prefer the first (does need some post-prod polishing though), but they both sound really good. Much better than what I'm getting with my set up.


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Ohhhh, I'll listen to those later.

Anyways, selected my next guitar. This will be years in the future lol

Which do you guys prefer?

http://www.guitarpla...l-toro-main.jpg
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Ohhhh, I'll listen to those later.

Anyways, selected my next guitar. This will be years in the future lol

Which do you guys prefer?

http://www.guitarpla...l-toro-main.jpg

 

I prefer the one on the right  :headbang:


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Ohhhh, I'll listen to those later.

Anyways, selected my next guitar. This will be years in the future lol

Which do you guys prefer?

http://www.guitarpla...l-toro-main.jpg

Right for me.


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The right one looks better to me...



 


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Played a few guitars/amps at GC the other day to kill some time.

 

When judging a guitar, I take these items into consideration, in this order: 1) How it sounds, 2) How it feels, 3) How it looks. All being important though.

 

I played an Epi LP Classic Custom, which looked great, felt okay, and sounded okay.

Played a Gibson SG Standard, 2015, sounded great, but felt terrible - and I still cannot figure out how to use Min E Tune.

And some ESP or Shecter thing with EMG's, which felt great, but sounded okay.

 

Played a Line Six Spider just to see if they're still terrible..... yup they are.

Settled on a small Fender Champ 20, which wasn't bad, passable. 

 

It was funny, the SG actually sounded a lot better for heavy stuff/metal than the active pick up guitar did. Active pick ups have never done it for me, sounding a bit too processed rather than organic. I did enjoy playing that guitar though, it felt nice to play.


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Purchased a few cool toys yesterday. Got a Strat that just felt right and sounded great and a Vox amp that sounded the best with that strat in the store.

 

5 Years since I bought my Les Paul standard. I'm gonna rock the shit out of it in my room today. (the strat)


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