bloodyhell1 Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 ok enough with the negativity. not up to scratch blah blah ok first show. Estranged a song most people here have been dying to hear, personaly i was blown away, has never sounded better,did it live up to your expectations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axlsend Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 I've waited sooo long to hear this live again. It was beautiful, brought a tear to my eye!I thought they nailed it. It was worth getting up at 4.30 am to hear it.Thanks guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seely Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Just watched it for the first time now...fucking INCREDIBLE, regardless of the rest of the show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Glow Inc. Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 The band can. Axl can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scumcat Esq. Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 It not only lived up my expectations, it surpassed them. I was afraid that Axl wouldn't be able to pull it off and that the guys would fuck it up. But they all delivered a really amazing performance! I was excited to hear it to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.. Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 The Glow is right, the band did justice to the song. However Axl had an annoying voice on it, it's like he didn't live the song at all when he sung it. Ruined the performance for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scumcat Esq. Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 It seemed quite the opposite to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodyhell1 Posted October 3, 2011 Author Share Posted October 3, 2011 considering its been 18 year since played i thought his style was very close to back then. what people have to realise is that axl will never sound like he did back then, some people are just up with the faries ( not you D..) but some people have this crazy notion that 1991 will happen once more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jekylhyde Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 It sounded great...I was in the bathroom, fixing my hair, ready to go to work and had the stream open in my living room, when I heard the first notes of it. I was like "cool, Estranged". It took me a few seconds, and I realized that I wasn't listening to the cd or a playlist. Ran to the living room and watched it with my jaw on the floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.. Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 (edited) considering its been 18 year since played i thought his style was very close to back then. what people have to realise is that axl will never sound like he did back then, some people are just up with the faries ( not you D..) but some people have this crazy notion that 1991 will happen once more.His voice last year was really close to the 90's though, take the "l'arc" performance in Paris last year, I was there and he was completely magic and outstanding. Of course he had been on the road for a while so he had time to train but the problem with Axl is that he thinks some gigs are "rehearsals". It's really not how it should be done, especially when opening a new tour with such a big gig that is RIR... I would like to say though that even with Rio being a catastrophee to me, Estranged was definitely the highlight of the show, Axl didn't forget the lyrics so he practiced this one a bit at least. Edited October 3, 2011 by D.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodyhell1 Posted October 3, 2011 Author Share Posted October 3, 2011 i agree but axl's axl. not going change im afraid. im just sad the world on the one night couldnt see what he was like last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Glow Inc. Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 considering its been 18 year since played i thought his style was very close to back then. what people have to realise is that axl will never sound like he did back then, some people are just up with the faries ( not you D..) but some people have this crazy notion that 1991 will happen once more.Yeah but had he trained during last year, he would at least have sounded like in 2010 : pretty good.He clearly didn't sing in 2011 or if he did then I don't know what the fuck happened because his voice was awful during the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.. Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 I'm as disappointed as you are. I made people come to GNR show in paris last year telling them it would be awesome as I had seen em in Norway. I argued with everyone telling me this band was "Axl & friends", "garbage" or anything else. They were top notch last year. They should really made some dvd/blu-ray with Tokyo 2009 or Edmington 2010. But tonight was the most disappointing GNR gig I ever experienced. Axl is really to blame on this one and he knows it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 I'm as disappointed as you are. I made people come to GNR show in paris last year telling them it would be awesome as I had seen em in Norway. I argued with everyone telling me this band was "Axl & friends", "garbage" or anything else. They were top notch last year. They should really made some dvd/blu-ray with Tokyo 2009 or Edmington 2010. But tonight was the most disappointing GNR gig I ever experienced. Axl is really to blame on this one and he knows it.What strikes me as odd is that you seem to be really happy about GN'R in 2010 and then you go all whiny just because of one bad day on the job? Cheer up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.. Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 I'm as disappointed as you are. I made people come to GNR show in paris last year telling them it would be awesome as I had seen em in Norway. I argued with everyone telling me this band was "Axl & friends", "garbage" or anything else. They were top notch last year. They should really made some dvd/blu-ray with Tokyo 2009 or Edmington 2010. But tonight was the most disappointing GNR gig I ever experienced. Axl is really to blame on this one and he knows it.What strikes me as odd is that you seem to be really happy about GN'R in 2010 and then you go all whiny just because of one bad day on the job? Cheer up.Part of why I enjoyed the shows so much in 2010 is that Axl's vocals were better than 2001,2002 and 2006 imo and considering all the shit that happened around the release of CD, I thought he had managed the thing pretty well.However, I expected more than the regular 2010 typical show for RIR IV. Instead we got less, not from the band, but from Axl. This is not acceptable, it really shows a lot of problems that this band has encountered in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 However, I expected more than the regular 2010 typical show for RIR IV.Why did you expect more? Have you not realized that the only way to be a content GN'R fan is to not have expectations?Instead we got less, not from the band, but from Axl. This is not acceptable,Yes, Axl wasn't good, but everyone can have a bad day at work. I don't understand why that is so depressing. If this repeats itself for every show on this tour, THEN it is bad. If you are a fan then you should know that Axl is not good at starts of tours, so I don't really understand why you are making so much of a fuss. it really shows a lot of problems that this band has encountered in the past.What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.. Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 It shows the inconsistency of Axl, the fact he doesn't rehearse enough with the band or before huge events like this and this is completely unacceptable. They are headliners of one of the biggest rock events on the planet and the lead singer doesn't master his songs. This is completely fucked up. Just because you're used to it don't make it right.It's depressing because Axl is getting old and we're not going to see much huge and great performances again I'm afraid. Also, the fact that Chinese Democracy came out only 3 years ago and seeing that Axl doesn't back it up more live with songs from this album makes me think he doesn't like it so much and it's disappointing because I love this album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 It shows the inconsistency of Axl, the fact he doesn't rehearse enough with the band or before huge events like this and this is completely unacceptable.I would go so far to call it extremely unprofessional, but "unacceptable"? I accepted the fact that Axl is unprofessional years ago, when are you going to accept it? And if you can't accept it, what are you going to do about it? They are headliners of one of the biggest rock events on the planet and the lead singer doesn't master his songs. This is completely fucked up. Just because you're used to it don't make it right.Oh, he forgot more of his lyrics this time than what I am used to. I am certain he kicks himself for that. He seemed truly bummed about it when it happened. Nothing we can do about it. It's depressing because Axl is getting old and we're not going to see much huge and great performances again I'm afraid.RIR is just another gig to me. There will be plenty more this year. I can't really get bothered by one bad day at work.Also, the fact that Chinese Democracy came out only 3 years ago and seeing that Axl doesn't back it up more live with songs from this album makes me think he doesn't like it so much and it's disappointing because I love this album.It's mediocre. I applaud him for trying to select the best songs from his catalogue and not too many off CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talvisota Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 It was superb. Only weak point was Axl in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwarzgold Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 I found it a great rendition, but then again, the rest of the show was mostly a trainwreck to me, so maybe the dimensions are somewhat distorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axljungle Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 The performance of Estranged was really really good, in the firsts verses sounds like UYI II, I though that was play back, the song sounds better than UYI tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axlslash Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Estranged will never be as good live as the record. Period. It's just one of those tracks, like Dylan's Like a Rolling Stone (a fitting comparison, given the reference in Estranged). The studio cut is perfect. Not that live performances can't be amazing, they just can't be as good. To say this is the best Estranged has ever sounded is silly.That being said, this was as good as the music for a live cut can get, and the guys not only did it justice but made it their own. Sounded like a perfect NuGuns live performance. Good on Bumble for not going crazy on the shredding (or yelling FUCK ESTRANGED! over the solo), and that was EXACTLY what I would want Deej's axe to sound like. A perfect arrangement. The vocals were not what I would hope, but it was easily Uncle Axl's best song vocally of the night - just the way I'd have it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kleber Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 What is the best version on youtube? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axlr23 Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 ok enough with the negativity. not up to scratch blah blah ok first show. Estranged a song most people here have been dying to hear, personaly i was blown away, has never sounded better,did it live up to your expectations?I loved it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethalis Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 I loved the way the band played.. solo's were great and they really proved they don't need Slash to play this song.It's a shame Axl didn't perform that well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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