taylorswift Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 I don't know what the set lists are nowadays really but... some of the old songs I've heard live so many times, it seems more interesting to play the new stuff live now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 (edited) The problem is that people react more strongly to the old songs. They've played Better, SOD, Sorry, This I Love, Shackler's Revenge, and Madgascar quite frequently. Opening the show with Chinese Democracy as oppose to WTTJ is a big step in that direction of promoting new songs. I think they could add a few more. TWAT, IRS, Catcher in the Rye, Riad. I mean if they really want to focus on CD they might as well go all out.Warm them up with old songs from AFD and UYI, and slam them with CD. Sounds like a good plan. Edited December 11, 2011 by BirdCatcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taylorswift Posted December 11, 2011 Author Share Posted December 11, 2011 The problem is that people react more strongly to the old songs. They've played Better, SOD, Sorry, This I Love, Shackler's Revenge, and Madgascar quite frequently. Opening the show with Chinese Democracy as oppose to WTTJ is a big step in that direction of promoting new songs. I think they could add a few more. TWAT, IRS, Catcher in the Rye, Riad. I mean if they really want to focus on CD they might as well go all out.Warm them up with old songs from AFD and UYI, and slam them with CD. Sounds like a good plan.yeah but, havent these audiences alreayd heard the old songs live on previous tours? and is rock music about catering to an audience? but agree mostly with what you said...i think the new stuff leaves more room for error and makes things more interesting, hearing welcome to the jungle or night train live from 2002, or 2006, or 2011, or 2010 or whatever, i mean how many times can we hear it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 yeah but, havent these audiences alreayd heard the old songs live on previous tours? and is rock music about catering to an audience? but agree mostly with what you said...i think the new stuff leaves more room for error and makes things more interesting, hearing welcome to the jungle or night train live from 2002, or 2006, or 2011, or 2010 or whatever, i mean how many times can we hear it?Well not everyone who goes to the shows have been to shows from the previous tours. Plus 'catering to the audience' would mean playing the old songs, everyone wants to hear Nightrain, Jungle, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Well you have to have WTTJ and NT at everyshow. I think this tour they are bringing back UYI songs. Estranged has become the main highlight of the tour. Not the CD songs. Civil War was the icing on the cake. Axl knows the fans would rather hear songs that haven't been played in 18 years more than new songs. If only he knows that so many fans want to hear Oh My God again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taylorswift Posted December 11, 2011 Author Share Posted December 11, 2011 Well you have to have WTTJ and NT at everyshow. I think this tour they are bringing back UYI songs. Estranged has become the main highlight of the tour. Not the CD songs. Civil War was the icing on the cake. Axl knows the fans would rather hear songs that haven't been played in 18 years more than new songs. If only he knows that so many fans want to hear Oh My God again.yeah but, play them at some shows, doesn't have to be every one, play oh my god as well, change it up for some variety so no one knows what to expect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 They did play Scraped at one show. That was cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ak1nney Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 If you go to a show, you want to hear a little of everything, and that's what they are doing. If you're not at the shows, your opinion doesn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taylorswift Posted December 11, 2011 Author Share Posted December 11, 2011 If you go to a show, you want to hear a little of everything, and that's what they are doing. If you're not at the shows, your opinion doesn't matter.yeah it's what they've been doing for the past 10 years or something now, did you miss them on the previous tours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 (edited) yeah it's what they've been doing for the past 10 years or something now, did you miss them on the previous tours?Honestly they kind of have to play the old songs. People who go to the shows want to hear the hits, its that simple. Sure they should mix in some new stuff (which is what they are doing) but there is no way that can just ditch the old songs Edited December 11, 2011 by WhazUp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taylorswift Posted December 11, 2011 Author Share Posted December 11, 2011 yeah it's what they've been doing for the past 10 years or something now, did you miss them on the previous tours?Honestly they kind of have to play the old songs. People who go to the shows want to hear the hits, its that simple. Sure they should mix in some new stuff (which is what they are doing) but there is no way that can just ditch the old songsyeah, i hear what you're saying, but they've been playing the old songs now on every new tour they do, which is fine, but i'm just thinking about rock music being more about fuck you, about being unpredictable and whatnot, it seems to me gnrs setlist has seemed like almost set in stone for the past however many years, yeah they change it up occasionally, but it's almost like you come to know the setlist, what they will open with, what they will close with, and they might change the order of a song here or there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 (edited) I think the majority of fans who go see a band that has been around since the 80's would go for nostalgia only. Even the modern rock bands constantly get requests for old songs. Young fans going to see Crue, Van Halen, Guns N' Roses, Rush would rather hear old songs they were conceived to. Rock and roll use to be about "fuck you, I'll do what I want" but in order to do what they want they have to catch people's attention. Who would want to go to a concert where a band only plays music not everyone is familiar with? Considering how poorly CD sold, most fans probably thought they were cover songs.At least you get an average of seven or eight new songs per night. Motley Crue and Van Halen have been teasing us about a new album for years. Haven't gotten it yet. The new Van Halen album has become the new Chinese Democracy. A ton of shit has been recorded since Van Halen III. I've been hearing of speculative release since 2004.Ironically it is under the same record label CD is. Edited December 11, 2011 by BirdCatcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MishoGunsNRoses Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 (edited) They have a lot of hits and a lot of good songs, If I´m not mistaking, they havent played Coma, Dead Horse, Breakdown, Double Talkin Jive for a long time, and I would like to hear that. But if u went to a GNR concert and you didnt heard WTTJ,SCOM, YCBM you would probably bitch and moan all day long. Edited December 11, 2011 by MishoGunsNRoses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ak1nney Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Well when the new band has two hours worth of material, I'll be more than willing for a show with just it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taylorswift Posted December 11, 2011 Author Share Posted December 11, 2011 They have a lot of hits and a lot of good songs, If I´m not mistaking, they havent played Coma, Dead Horse, Breakdown, Double Talkin Jive for a long time, and I would like to hear that. But if u went to a GNR concert and you didnt heard WTTJ,SCOM, YCBM you would probably bitch and moan all day long.What GNR fan hasn't been to a GNR concert where they haven't played these songs? I want to hear new stuff, different stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axlrod Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 GNR is not after ChiDem to promote alone but the whole Back Catalog, it's a B to C business model type.Tour is a strong strategy that increases the awareness of the group being a band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 The band has to prove they can play the old songs just as good if not better than the previous lineups. I agree with the post above, this tour is really settling those who dispute the lineup as a band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taylorswift Posted December 11, 2011 Author Share Posted December 11, 2011 The band has to prove they can play the old songs just as good if not better than the previous lineups. I agree with the post above, this tour is really settling those who dispute the lineup as a band.But i've heard all that before. And I like my rock music spontaneous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 The band has to prove they can play the old songs just as good if not better than the previous lineups. I agree with the post above, this tour is really settling those who dispute the lineup as a band.But i've heard all that before. And I like my rock music spontaneous.But here is the thing: GNR doesn't cater to one individual's wants in terms of what songs to play. The fact is they have cemented their career with the classic songs and the vast majority of people who go see them expect to hear the classic songs that cemented their legacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taylorswift Posted December 11, 2011 Author Share Posted December 11, 2011 The band has to prove they can play the old songs just as good if not better than the previous lineups. I agree with the post above, this tour is really settling those who dispute the lineup as a band.But i've heard all that before. And I like my rock music spontaneous.But here is the thing: GNR doesn't cater to one individual's wants in terms of what songs to play. The fact is they have cemented their career with the classic songs and the vast majority of people who go see them expect to hear the classic songs that cemented their legacyThey've been touring with the same music now for like 10 years. Even before chinese democracy was released, they were still playing chinese democracy songs. Now they're just playing a few more of them, but the setlists have mostly stayed the same, in the same order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 (edited) Chinese DemocracyScrapedRiadCatcherITWTWATBetterLive n let DieSODSorryYCBMTILProstituteIRSRocket QueenHeavens DoorMadagascarNov RainSweet ChildParadise CityJungle Edited December 11, 2011 by wasted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 I can see that setlist pissing off a lot of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 I can see that setlist pissing off a lot of people.Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 where's estranged? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Tough decisions were made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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