uruguns Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 (edited) It drew my attention from the first listen of both shows how When everybody's fightin' for their promised land and sounded exactly the same. MAKE SURE TO LISTEN WITH HEADPHONES*Gunsguy edit: Eduardo, if you are interested in trolling for a known cupcake and banned member here then perhaps you are in the wrong forum.op edit: You're wrong Gunsguy, the fact that he agrees with me in this doesn't mean I'm trolling. Check my 1000 posts before this thread and tell me if I ever "trolled" or something. Edited January 5, 2012 by eduardo'GNR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 You can likely find these type of similarities for every singer out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 You could probably take that line from Argentina 1992 and Paris 1992 and it'd likely sound exactly the same as well. He's using the same tonality on it both times so why would it sound that much different? A lot of Jungle performances from the 2011 tour sound similar as well, especially between two consecutive shows. Plus, if he were lip syncing, why do it for a single line? I think there'd be more use in "lip syncing" the whistling at the beginning, if anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cassette tape hiss Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 i/m fine with a little lipsynching....i went to roger waters last year and i'm pretty sure he lipsynched he entire concert. when i go to a show i want it to sound good. if axl needs to patch up some spots then by all means patch it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabbath Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 lol no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowmass Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 You can likely find these type of similarities for every singer out there.What is your point? The ? regards Civil War. But thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris 55 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 That's the best Axl photo in the history of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumblerose Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Well the guitars are doubling and drums beating too many times as if this audio has slight delay on it, doesn't sound right to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandallFlagg Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 (edited) They sound exactly the same, especially how promised is pronounced but why would he lip sync that particular line in the whole show lol. Surely there's more difficult parts. I'm not a fan of any kind of lip synching or recorded backing vocals on live performances of Sorry or Shackler's anyway. Edited January 5, 2012 by RandallFlagg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uruguns Posted January 5, 2012 Author Share Posted January 5, 2012 (edited) They sound exactly the same, especially how promised is pronounced but why would he lip sync that particular line in the whole show lol. I'm not a fan of any kind of lip synching or recorded backing vocals like on Sorry or Shackler's anyway.Rasp... It's a inflection point in the song that needs energy and rasp, immediately after this verse, his weak and low voice is back. Coincidence? Edited January 5, 2012 by eduardo'GNR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandallFlagg Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 (edited) It's very suspicious how the rasp is barely existent recently but on that it's like THERE then gone Edited January 5, 2012 by RandallFlagg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zint Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 lol nothis.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno P. Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Might as well compare Jungle and Estranged performances... some of the words he sang on these sounded exactly like lipsyncing! Wait... add Sweet Child. And Don't Cry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandallFlagg Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Maybe the uploader wanted to trick people by uploading two of the same lines for some reason but if that is legit then he obviously is using the line for a breather but if Axl pretends to sing it then it is lip syncing. Not really a terrible thing the way the guy performs and sings approaching 50 but just get the crowd or other guys to sing it or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaneisKing1389 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 They sound different. You can clearly hear a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandallFlagg Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 I've listened to the line about twenty times and i'm not doing it anymore lol but I can't tell any difference whatsoever between them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 They sound exactly the same, especially how promised is pronounced but why would he lip sync that particular line in the whole show lol. I'm not a fan of any kind of lip synching or recorded backing vocals like on Sorry or Shackler's anyway.Rasp... It's a inflection point in the song that needs energy and rasp, immediately after this verse, his weak and low voice is back. Coincidence?Not at all. He sings the entire first verse from "My hands are tied..." with rasp and has no trouble switching from his natural voice singing the intro and then to the rasp there. Why would the switch be any different anywhere else at the show? In Shackler's, for example, he sings the pre-chorus clean and then switches right to the rasp for the chorus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolRanchDressing Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 If you find yourself splicing together youtube videos of old performances in hopes that you can find a few syllables to back up your ridiculous claim that Axl lip synchs.... you might be an Axl Hater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandallFlagg Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 I'm just taking into account the backing vocals in Sorry and Shackler's for example have been present when the other guys are more than capable, this line sounds suspicious but it could just be a vocal switching, the lines sound REMARKABLY similar though IMO. It wouldn't be like omg axl rose is miming!!!1! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 I'm just taking into account the backing vocals in Sorry and Shackler's for example have been present when the other guys are more than capable, this line sounds suspicious but it could just be a vocal switching, the lines sound REMARKABLY similar though IMO. It wouldn't be like omg axl rose is miming!!!1!Those are different cases though. Axl is still singing live on top of the backing tracks in Shackler's and the other Chinese Democracy songs. The backing tracks are to cover all the harmonies and stuff that Axl can't do himself. I do agree that the other guys, especially Bumblefoot, are more than capable of handling all the backing vocals. My point is that it's not like Axl is standing there mouthing the words to the chorus of Shackler's. He is singing it, and the backing tracks are just that, backing tracks. Chinese Democracy is filled with vocal layers everywhere, much more than on any previous Guns album. Thus, the backing tracks come into play live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowlinWolf Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 I am not the biggest modern day Axl fan but what the fuck is this thread even about?? Correct me if I am wrong here.. You spliced together two shows to show that they sound the same and he is lip synching? If that is the case you failed. They sound similar but not exact. They guy has sang it a million times and he is teh original singer. It is that far fetched that it is going to sound the same sometimes? It actually should.. Maybe I am missing something here.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 I don't care. I just don't want that Mickey Mouse shit, it should fuckin' disappear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uruguns Posted January 5, 2012 Author Share Posted January 5, 2012 Make sure to listen with headphones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiraMPD Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Hmm not really sure if its a spoof or not. I've listen to this clip about 20-30 times now and I'm not really convinced. What bothers me is that when it hits "when everybody's fightin' for the promised land" not only are the lyrics in sync but so is everything else (guitars, drum, etc) and then in one of the tracks the drumming gets really sloppy and one track sounds slower than the other except at the point "when everybody's fightin' for the promised land" in the entire clip.I'm gonna have a listen to some actual recordings of the shows (both audience and live-stream) and try to compare it that way but atm I'm thinking no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Absolutely no lip-synching at all. /thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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