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Where did the Legend of the Red Panda originate?


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I am calling B.S. on this, title credits: Roses, Stinson, Ashba

Ashba's stuff wouldnt be recorded yet.


If he just added something to the song, he takes credit too.

Indeed. Any changes to the arrangement, even something minor, would be enough to give him credit. Whose to say he hasn't been to the studio at least once since 2009 when he joined to record/re-work some parts.

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If it's a relatively old title would Ashba have a writing credit ahead of other members?

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Its fake. I'll repeat what I said on another thread:

ASCAP site has nothing about this song. Also, the Publishers are Black Frog (Axl), Done to Death (Tommy) and Losingmymind (Dizzy). So, where's Ashba in all this?

And, most important...

My link

This is the same kid who posted on that Portuguese forum. He was online just enjoying all the hype and didn't bother to explain anything.



I am calling B.S. on this, title credits: Roses, Stinson, Ashba

Ashba's stuff wouldnt be recorded yet.


If he just added something to the song, he takes credit too.

Indeed. Any changes to the arrangement, even something minor, would be enough to give him credit. Whose to say he hasn't been to the studio at least once since 2009 when he joined to record/re-work some parts.

No, arrangements get credits for it, not for writing. You can just read the Chinese Democracy booklet to see that.
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Ish just got serious....

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If it's a relatively old title would Ashba have a writing credit ahead of other members?

It could have been a song strictly arranged by Axl and Tommy, and then Ashba added something to it.

Songwriting credits generally go to those responsible for the arrangement, lyrics, and principle melodies. For example, Steve Harris writes most of Iron Maiden's music, but that doesn't mean the other guys don't come in with guitar solos, suggestions, and that kind of thing. Changes to the overall arrangment do warrant a writing credit.

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Thanks for the link to that forum more or less explains the origin, it's a good effort by the dude though. I kinda like that panda.

/\ yeah just wondering if Ashba would have added to it and not any of the other guys seen as though they've been in the band for a long time and Ashba was saying he'd made x amount of songs, would be surprising that the others wouldn't have had any input on something that's been around for a while.

Edited by RandallFlagg, 29 January 2012 - 04:35 PM.

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Its fake. I'll repeat what I said on another thread:

ASCAP site has nothing about this song. Also, the Publishers are Black Frog (Axl), Done to Death (Tommy) and Losingmymind (Dizzy). So, where's Ashba in all this?

And, most important...


My link

This is the same kid who posted on that Portuguese forum. He was online just enjoying all the hype and didn't bother to explain anything.



I am calling B.S. on this, title credits: Roses, Stinson, Ashba

Ashba's stuff wouldnt be recorded yet.


If he just added something to the song, he takes credit too.

Indeed. Any changes to the arrangement, even something minor, would be enough to give him credit. Whose to say he hasn't been to the studio at least once since 2009 when he joined to record/re-work some parts.

No, arrangements get credits for it, not for writing. You can just read the Chinese Democracy booklet to see that.

I forget Chinese Democracy credited arrangements separately. My mistake.

Still, my point was that there has been more than enough time for Ashba to write or re-write something already going since 2009.

That being said, I know this is a fake.

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I try to not get my hopes up, but it's so fucking hard! maybe this is monday's great news! But making a fake cover is not so hard, but that seal look pretty real!

EDIT: I think the big monday news is a new tour

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I'm on the side of it being fake, but its just such an impressive one at that, it makes me wonder :confused: Especially being coupled with an announcement tomorrow
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IF this is real then it seems that Beta has done in mere months what other managers have not accomplished in years!

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Like voodoochild said, the guy posted it and barely stuck around, maybe he just didn't care for attention the way some leakers do but I think it's just a well done fake. I welcome new material however, from the vault of Rose's Malibu mansion or more recent ventures..

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I am calling B.S. on this, title credits: Roses, Stinson, Ashba

Ashba's stuff wouldnt be recorded yet.


If he just added something to the song, he takes credit too.


So would frank, Richard, and Bumblefoot.

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Guys, READ what voodoochild is saying

it's fake!


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It's a fake guys, check out the image of the Street of Dreams single (I googled it).

It's an elaborate and very good imitation though!

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Its fake.


That single may be, but the song is not fake.

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