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Technically Speaking - Just how good is Buckethead?


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Forget all the other factors that make a good guitar player:

  • Creativity
  • "Feel"
  • Attitude
  • Historic Significance
  • Stage Presence

And just focus on the technical playing abilities. Just how good is Buckethead comparing to other amazing technical guitar players like Yngwie Malmsteen, Joe Satriani, Steve Vai, Eddie Van Halen, Jimi Hendrix or any other big-name guitar player out there? Just where do you think he ranks?

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Well buckethead is a rare bird. First off Bucket is better than Hendrix and EVH when you take out the qualities you listed. The problem is between the first three. The first three are all masters of theory, and can play the fuck out the guitar in regards to technique; picking, legato, tapping, sweeping, what have you. Bucket has also mastered those things but his mastery of theory isn't necessarily known. In his music he doesn't flaunt a large share of knowledge on theory by playing in different modes and scales like you hear from Malmsteem and Bumblefoot in many songs. They're mostly just rock, metal, or funk songs. But what makes Bucket so amazing is how he has crafted his own lane of theoretical brilliance. He threw out the book and has made his guitar make sounds no one else really has. Few guitarists I've heard have made dissonance sound so beautiful, making robotic sounds sound warm. The case for Bucket having an extensive knowledge of theory would be to say you can't think outside the box without knowing what's in it. But who knows.

Bucket has crafted his own lane. While he can play at similar notes per minute as the guys you listed, it's hard to put them in the same list.

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He can play whatever he wants, so I would say he's among all these names you said.

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He's comprable in terms of technique. I don't listen to any of the ones you listed much other than EVH, so I cant get too in depth in how they compare. I do agree that he isn't as well-versed in theory though in all likelihood.

And for the record, I don't consider Hendrix to be in the same league as the other virtuosos you mentioned. One key trait of virtuosity on any instrument is a mastery of technique, i.e. doing those techniques cleanly...this is definitely not a trait Hendrix bore.

And while I'm ranting about guitar virtuosos, one everyone always seems to forget is Dick Dale. He really set the stage for any guitar virtuosos that followed him.

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He's pretty advanced in his technique. He's practiced a lot. :mellow:

I dunno about Dick Dale being a virtuoso, hearing him talk about guitar is like hearing a gardener talk about open heart surgery.

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Buckethead is good. The amount of records puts out is overwhelming. That's not a bad thing, but his older stuff was better.

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It's clear he's technically among the best. Electric, acoustic, then the blend of styles from funk, blues, metal,... He's even shit hot on the bass guitar.

I bet he was a bit of a recluse growing up, and just spent years practicing guitar.

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Bucket isnt as capable as Bumble IMHO, but he sounds better most of the time.

And for the record, I don't consider Hendrix to be in the same league as the other virtuosos you mentioned. One key trait of virtuosity on any instrument is a mastery of technique, i.e. doing those techniques cleanly...this is definitely not a trait Hendrix bore.

This. Never understood how people can compare Hendrix to any other, from what is worth.
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He's pretty advanced in his technique. He's practiced a lot. :mellow:

I dunno about Dick Dale being a virtuoso, hearing him talk about guitar is like hearing a gardener talk about open heart surgery.

He invented tremelo picking. In the 60's, there was no one who had half the skill he had on guitar, of course he doesn't stand up against later guitar virtuosos though.

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Bucket isnt as capable as Bumble IMHO,


I would definately agree with that.

but he sounds better most of the time.


I don't agree with that.

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It's hard to find someone comparable to him.

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He's pretty advanced in his technique. He's practiced a lot. :mellow:

I dunno about Dick Dale being a virtuoso, hearing him talk about guitar is like hearing a gardener talk about open heart surgery.

He invented tremelo picking. In the 60's, there was no one who had half the skill he had on guitar, of course he doesn't stand up against later guitar virtuosos though.

I dunno if he invented it, Django was doing that stuff ages before rock even existed. Dale had intensity, and a good right hand. But as far as no one having the skill he had, Chuck Berry, Chet Atkins, Scotty Moore and Cliff Gallup were all around at that time, and they'd probably have something to say about that.

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Buckethead is up there with Hendrix as far as his creative output. I actually think Bucket's guitar playing is more enjoyable to listen to than Hendrix. Hendrix set the bar, but Bucket took it and ran with it. I LOVE Yngwie Malmsteen, but I still think Buckethead has much more soul...Yngwie basically does the same runs over-and-over. Even though I like Bumblefoot, I don't think he has the same charisma and charm in his playing. Also haven't really bothered to check out his stuff beyond a few cover songs...Bumble seems a bit more straight forward, where Buckethead is more experimental. Just my opinion, of course. Also, Buckethead can play so many different styles of music. He is like the Bruce Lee of guitar.

The only guitar player that I would maybe put above Buckethead, is Eric Johnson, just as far as tone, and shredding, and the fact that he has a great singing voice, but even Buckethead outdoes Eric as far as releasing albums and what-not.

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Bucket isnt as capable as Bumble IMHO, but he sounds better most of the time.


And for the record, I don't consider Hendrix to be in the same league as the other virtuosos you mentioned. One key trait of virtuosity on any instrument is a mastery of technique, i.e. doing those techniques cleanly...this is definitely not a trait Hendrix bore.

This. Never understood how people can compare Hendrix to any other, from what is worth.

Most virtuosos such as Steve Vai admit themselves that Hendrix was a beast on guitar

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Edited by LA_0013, 08 April 2012 - 10:39 PM.


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hendrix was awesome, same as Rhoads... some guitarrists might not know as much "tricks" as others but they can just pull it off better.

as "good" as he thinks he is or anybody thinks he is, i cant stand Malmsteen at all,that whole neo classical thing might've worked at first and caught some off guard, but then for me it's just YUKK... Vai has some good tunes but i can't go trhough a whole cd without skipping.
so yeah i never got that whole who's better than who?
Bucket has some great cd's and his instumental stuff is better than most because is actually enjoyable to listen to him even if he has some average cd's.
i'd still would rate some guitarrist probably not as virtuosos as those, better.




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