Romney is not even liked by his own party...look at the clowns he beat for the nomination and he still struggled. He is the greatest flipflopper of all time. The man will change his position in an eyeblink to curry votes.
Bush handed Obama a shit sandwich when he left office. An economy ready to collapse into depression and two pointless unwinnable wars to deal with.
Has he been perfect ? No but considering shitstorm he was left with he managed to stabilize the economy and things are slowly turning around.
Expecting him to turn the economy around in his first term is dreaming especially considering the Republicans fighting everything he wants to do.
Considering how the Republicans fuck the poor to favour the rich it amazes me the blue collar support them.
I am not a Republican and I am not pro Bush and I am not pro Romney and I don't put my hopes in man. I am conservative for the most part. All that simply means is that I believe the government is not the solution to problems and indeed usually creates more problems and the bigger it gets the more freedom citizens lose.
So, through those lenses I cannot understand these arguments against Bush or for Obama starting with this: Obama and the left drove Bush into the ground as much as they could. And Obama said he would fix it. His own words were that if he did not fix the economy he would be a 1 term president.
Now that its not fixed and is indeed worse in every measurable catagory (even with more lax criteria in the numbers that the Obama Admistration's Labor Department is responsible for) Obama is saying it is much worse than he thought. If he never said he would fix it in 1 term then ok. But he did. And to make it worse, he is still campaigning against Bush.
Under Bush there were 59 consecutive months of job growth and unemployment was under 5% most of his 2 terms. How could it have been that good if he were so bad? Did Clinton do it? Did Clinton spend 8 years to make it good and then it took Bush 8 years to destroy it slowly and then all of the sudden in his last 4 months in office it was by design or it just happened to be the time it would collapse? When Obama was elected unemployment was under 7% I believe and when he took office it jumped even higher and got over 10% Then they changed the way the numbers are counted and it is still over 8% but if it were counted the same way it has been counted for decades unemployment was closer to 15% and is now over 10%.
And the most baffling argument is that Republicans have stood in his way......You do realize that Obama had 2 years of Super majorities in Congress? Meaning Republicans could not win any vote in either house and could not even philibuster? What is the excuse there? He had 2 years to fix this the way he wanted and he did exactly what he wanted in those 2 years and nothing he has done has helped. In fact, Obama's best job growth period in his term has been while Republicans have had the House.
And Republicans fing the poor? Democrats have more money in Congress than Republicans. Democrats want to keep taking money from one group of people (but not their own) and giving to another rather than trying to address the reasons for poverty in the first place.
Look, if you believe in government as being the solution to problems and gay marriage that is how you want to believe and that is fine. I only ask to at least examine more closely what it is you believe in and what it is you are against. What you are saying is just cliches and word games out of the left handbook that aren't really based on any actual observation or fact checking. If you are convinced that what you already believe is true then ok.
I just don't see how someone could try to be objective and not see what is going on. Again, I am not Republican and I don't trust any government very well but the fact is that the Republican Party is much closer to be conservative than the Democratic party. I want less government--not more. If you want to say that gay marriage is less government I can see your point. But gay marriage has nothing to do with the economy.
Edited by gabrielsevenn7, 10 May 2012 - 11:42 PM.