Snake-Pit Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I thought I'd digress a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 To digress further, i just bought the Hard Days Night suit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gackt Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Seems like a good time to bring up this article regarding Beatles:http://scaruffi.com/vol1/beatles.htmlThe fact that so many books still name the Beatles as "the greatest or most significant or most influential" rock band ever only tells you how far rock music still is from becoming a serious art. Jazz critics have long recognized that the greatest jazz musicians of all times are Duke Ellington and John Coltrane, who were not the most famous or richest or best sellers of their times, let alone of all times. Classical critics rank the highly controversial Beethoven over classical musicians who were highly popular in courts around Europe. Rock critics are still blinded by commercial success. The Beatles sold more than anyone else (not true, by the way), therefore they must have been the greatest. Jazz critics grow up listening to a lot of jazz music of the past, classical critics grow up listening to a lot of classical music of the past. Rock critics are often totally ignorant of the rock music of the past, they barely know the best sellers. No wonder they will think that the Beatles did anything worthy of being saved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Seems like a good time to bring up this article regarding Beatles:http://scaruffi.com/vol1/beatles.htmlThe fact that so many books still name the Beatles as "the greatest or most significant or most influential" rock band ever only tells you how far rock music still is from becoming a serious art. Jazz critics have long recognized that the greatest jazz musicians of all times are Duke Ellington and John Coltrane, who were not the most famous or richest or best sellers of their times, let alone of all times. Classical critics rank the highly controversial Beethoven over classical musicians who were highly popular in courts around Europe. Rock critics are still blinded by commercial success. The Beatles sold more than anyone else (not true, by the way), therefore they must have been the greatest. Jazz critics grow up listening to a lot of jazz music of the past, classical critics grow up listening to a lot of classical music of the past. Rock critics are often totally ignorant of the rock music of the past, they barely know the best sellers. No wonder they will think that the Beatles did anything worthy of being saved.That is horse shit on so many levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Drama Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Utter dog shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 The Beethoven thing is not correct. Beethoven kicked down the door of the aristocracy and forced them to listen. He was considered Vienna's premier composer and had aristocratic patrons like the Archduke Rudolph supporting him. It is garbage. Also, Beethoven was a classicist at the beginning of his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsh327 Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Ralph J Gleason was a jazz musician who reviewed "jazz and pop" music for the NY Times but he was the granddaddy of snarky critics. It's just in his case he could play music. http://www.jannswenner.com/press/like_a_rolling_stone.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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