spunko12345 Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Why doesnt Axl ever play this song? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damn_Smooth Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 You've been here for 4 years and you don't know the answer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spunko12345 Posted June 13, 2012 Author Share Posted June 13, 2012 You've been here for 4 years and you don't know the answer?No I cant understand why someone would write a song like that and not play it unless they were ashamed of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 He will never play that song again. Axl is tired of the bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowmass Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 He can't play it as in he'd be crucified by media/public. Which is such bullshit & hypocritical. Look at all the "rap crap" etc...... Even the Stones "Brown Sugar" and Zep "Immigrant Song" etc..... OIAM is so awese. Id also like to hear Axl sing "Look at Your Game" (I think that's it....the "hidden" Spaghetti Incodent track). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spunko12345 Posted June 13, 2012 Author Share Posted June 13, 2012 (edited) Because most people misinterpret it.How do people misinterpret it? It seems like a pretty straightforward song to me. Edited June 13, 2012 by spunko12345 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowmass Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Because most people misinterpret it.How do people misinterpret it? It seems like a pretty straightforward song to me.People take the "immigrants & persons" and "police & black persons" face value (racist & homophobic". Axl's explanation of the OIAM lyrics is well documented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiraMPD Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 (edited) Because most people misinterpret it.How do people misinterpret it? It seems like a pretty straightforward song to me.More like, people get offended by certain words used in it but miss the bigger picture the song tries to paint (at least imo). Edited June 13, 2012 by KiraMPD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spunko12345 Posted June 13, 2012 Author Share Posted June 13, 2012 He can't play it as in he'd be crucified by media/public. Which is such bullshit & hypocritical. Look at all the "rap crap" etc...... Even the Stones "Brown Sugar" and Zep "Immigrant Song" etc..... OIAM is so awese. Id also like to hear Axl sing "Look at Your Game" (I think that's it....the "hidden" Spaghetti Incodent track).I agree its an awesome song. The lyric content makes it even more powerful because you cant believe he is saying these things.I say Axl should take ownership of the song and play it in front of a festival crowd of 50000 people. If he stands by the lyrics he should be brave about One In A Million.OIAM is a HUGE reason why Axl gets seemingly undeserved shit in the press nowadays. Lyrics like that need a coherent explanation otherwise people understandably think they are your views. Axl never really explained in full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spunko12345 Posted June 13, 2012 Author Share Posted June 13, 2012 Because most people misinterpret it.How do people misinterpret it? It seems like a pretty straightforward song to me.People take the "immigrants & persons" and "police & black persons" face value (racist & homophobic". Axl's explanation of the OIAM lyrics is well documented.Its not well documented at all. Its extremely vague. And getting mugged by a black person and almost raped doesnt in anyway whatsoever get him off the hook for using these words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellobeatle Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 I'm pretty sure at one point in the late 90s/early 2000 (that Rolling Stones article?) he stated he wanted to take OIAM and Look @ Your Game Girl off of their respected albums for future pressings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiraMPD Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Lyrics like that need a coherent explanation otherwise people understandably think they are your views. Axl never really explained in full.I've always thought the song was self explanatory."Radicals and RacistsDon't point your finger at meI'm a small town white boyJust tryin' to make ends meetDon't need your religionDon't watch that much T.V.Just makin' my livin', babyWell that's enough for me"That's just it. Axl once said that the song was about the bus stop and as the song states, this the the view of a "small town white boy". He may think like this or have these views from time to time but he's not acting out on them and he's not harming anyone. Instead he just continues on with his life and that in itself is a profound message imo and it's right there in the song! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowmass Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Because most people misinterpret it.How do people misinterpret it? It seems like a pretty straightforward song to me.People take the "immigrants & persons" and "police & black persons" face value (racist & homophobic". Axl's explanation of the OIAM lyrics is well documented.Its not well documented at all. Its extremely vague. And getting mugged by a black person and almost raped doesnt in anyway whatsoever get him off the hook for using these words.It's my understanding that (as per Axl) the song is a "small town white boys" initial reaction to the big city. And yeah- if you know anything about Axl's history it is "well documented" (his explanation). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spunko12345 Posted June 13, 2012 Author Share Posted June 13, 2012 Lyrics like that need a coherent explanation otherwise people understandably think they are your views. Axl never really explained in full.I've always thought the song was self explanatory."Radicals and RacistsDon't point your finger at meI'm a small town white boyJust tryin' to make ends meetDon't need your religionDon't watch that much T.V.Just makin' my livin', babyWell that's enough for me"That's just it. Axl once said that the song was about the bus stop and as the song states, this the the view of a "small town white boy". He may think like this or have these views from time to time but he's not acting out on them and he's not harming anyone. Instead he just continues on with his life and that in itself is a profound message imo and it's right there in the song!Fair enough, but now that he's lived in LA for 30 years he should address what he said in a more logical way considering the massive offence he caused to huge sections of society around the world.Im not saying he is racist, homophobic or anything like that, but forget about the late starts, people in the media have long memories and Ax's reputation is suffering for that song to this day and regardless of how great a singer/frontman he is he needs to either play that song live or apologize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowmass Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Lyrics like that need a coherent explanation otherwise people understandably think they are your views. Axl never really explained in full.I've always thought the song was self explanatory."Radicals and RacistsDon't point your finger at meI'm a small town white boyJust tryin' to make ends meetDon't need your religionDon't watch that much T.V.Just makin' my livin', babyWell that's enough for me"That's just it. Axl once said that the song was about the bus stop and as the song states, this the the view of a "small town white boy". He may think like this or have these views from time to time but he's not acting out on them and he's not harming anyone. Instead he just continues on with his life and that in itself is a profound message imo and it's right there in the song!Fair enough, but now that he's lived in LA for 30 years he should address what he said in a more logical way considering the massive offence he caused to huge sections of society around the world.Im not saying he is racist, homophobic or anything like that, but forget about the late starts, people in the media have long memories and Ax's reputation is suffering for that song to this day and regardless of how great a singer/frontman he is he needs to either play that song live or apologize.On the list of things Axl "should" address- this would not be one of them. He did 25yrs ago. Move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spunko12345 Posted June 13, 2012 Author Share Posted June 13, 2012 Because most people misinterpret it.How do people misinterpret it? It seems like a pretty straightforward song to me.People take the "immigrants & persons" and "police & black persons" face value (racist & homophobic". Axl's explanation of the OIAM lyrics is well documented.Its not well documented at all. Its extremely vague. And getting mugged by a black person and almost raped doesnt in anyway whatsoever get him off the hook for using these words.It's my understanding that (as per Axl) the song is a "small town white boys" initial reaction to the big city. And yeah- if you know anything about Axl's history it is "well documented" (his explanation).But you have to understand my point, millions of people who have never given half a shit about rock music heard about the song, listened to it and were justifiably offended. Why on earth would they feel they should take the time to dig through old interviews to understand the singers intentions. And for me personally Axl still to this day hasnt or cant justify those lyrics.Lyrics like that need a coherent explanation otherwise people understandably think they are your views. Axl never really explained in full.I've always thought the song was self explanatory."Radicals and RacistsDon't point your finger at meI'm a small town white boyJust tryin' to make ends meetDon't need your religionDon't watch that much T.V.Just makin' my livin', babyWell that's enough for me"That's just it. Axl once said that the song was about the bus stop and as the song states, this the the view of a "small town white boy". He may think like this or have these views from time to time but he's not acting out on them and he's not harming anyone. Instead he just continues on with his life and that in itself is a profound message imo and it's right there in the song!Fair enough, but now that he's lived in LA for 30 years he should address what he said in a more logical way considering the massive offence he caused to huge sections of society around the world.Im not saying he is racist, homophobic or anything like that, but forget about the late starts, people in the media have long memories and Ax's reputation is suffering for that song to this day and regardless of how great a singer/frontman he is he needs to either play that song live or apologize.On the list of things Axl "should" address- this would not be one of them. He did 25yrs ago. Move on.Nope, not good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowmass Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Because most people misinterpret it.How do people misinterpret it? It seems like a pretty straightforward song to me.People take the "immigrants & persons" and "police & black persons" face value (racist & homophobic". Axl's explanation of the OIAM lyrics is well documented.Its not well documented at all. Its extremely vague. And getting mugged by a black person and almost raped doesnt in anyway whatsoever get him off the hook for using these words.It's my understanding that (as per Axl) the song is a "small town white boys" initial reaction to the big city. And yeah- if you know anything about Axl's history it is "well documented" (his explanation).But you have to understand my point, millions of people who have never given half a shit about rock music heard about the song, listened to it and were justifiably offended. Why on earth would they feel they should take the time to dig through old interviews to understand the singers intentions. And for me personally Axl still to this day hasnt or cant justify those lyrics.Lyrics like that need a coherent explanation otherwise people understandably think they are your views. Axl never really explained in full.I've always thought the song was self explanatory."Radicals and RacistsDon't point your finger at meI'm a small town white boyJust tryin' to make ends meetDon't need your religionDon't watch that much T.V.Just makin' my livin', babyWell that's enough for me"That's just it. Axl once said that the song was about the bus stop and as the song states, this the the view of a "small town white boy". He may think like this or have these views from time to time but he's not acting out on them and he's not harming anyone. Instead he just continues on with his life and that in itself is a profound message imo and it's right there in the song!Fair enough, but now that he's lived in LA for 30 years he should address what he said in a more logical way considering the massive offence he caused to huge sections of society around the world.Im not saying he is racist, homophobic or anything like that, but forget about the late starts, people in the media have long memories and Ax's reputation is suffering for that song to this day and regardless of how great a singer/frontman he is he needs to either play that song live or apologize.On the list of things Axl "should" address- this would not be one of them. He did 25yrs ago. Move on.Nope, not good enough.Tell ya what- if you are so offended don't listen to that song. And don't listen to 85% of the songs since you take em so literally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saber_ Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Is this the best cupcake thread you could muster? Lame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spunko12345 Posted June 13, 2012 Author Share Posted June 13, 2012 Is this the best cupcake thread you could muster? Lame.Im not offended by the song, I can see it for what it is and I love the song. But Its a legitimate topic for conversation considering the lyric content and how so many people dont feel it has been explained or concluded, hence why the question of why Axl doesnt play the song hit such a nerve.It cant just be brushed under the carpet because it was (too 99% of people) racist in the most blatant way imaginable.Is this the best cupcake thread you could muster? Lame.I dont waste my time like that. Go call the next black person you meet a n!gger and tell them how its ok because you got mugged by a black man 5 years ago. See how that works out.Just because its an old topic dont mean its gonna go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saber_ Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 (edited) Is this the best cupcake thread you could muster? Lame.Im not offended by the song, I can see it for what it is and I love the song. But Its a legitimate topic for conversation considering the lyric content and how so many people dont feel it has been explained or concluded, hence why the question of why Axl doesnt play the song hit such a nerve.It cant just be brushed under the carpet because it was (too 99% of people) racist in the most blatant way imaginable.Oh I think you're a wee bit wiser than you purport to be.Your opening post said "Why doesn't Axl ever play this song?" And then one of your early posts said some horseshit about why someone would write a song and not play it. And I must say the rest of the 'feigned innocence/devil's advocate' posts were masterfully executed. Ultimately, I don't care that this has been discussed before, or that it could possibly belong in the pre-94 forum, no, rather I care about the fact the obvious answer is somehow not obvious to you. Carry on. Edited June 13, 2012 by Popcorn's Snare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Is this the best cupcake thread you could muster? Lame.Im not offended by the song, I can see it for what it is and I love the song. But Its a legitimate topic for conversation considering the lyric content and how so many people dont feel it has been explained or concluded, hence why the question of why Axl doesnt play the song hit such a nerve.It cant just be brushed under the carpet because it was (too 99% of people) racist in the most blatant way imaginable.Oh I think you're a wee bit wiser than you purport to be.Your opening post said "Why doesn't Axl ever play this song?" And then one of your early posts said some horseshit about why someone would write a song and not play it. And I must say the rest of the 'feigned innocence/devil's advocate' posts were masterfully executed. Ultimately, I don't care that this has been discussed before, or that it could possibly belong in the pre-94 forum, no, rather I care about the fact the obvious answer is somehow not obvious to you. Carry on.Instead of calling everybody you disagree with haters and cupcakes.....why not engage the person in a conversation? Show them how their topic or idea is wrong. This is a FORUM where people come to discuss GnR. If you don't like a topic - prove the poster wrong, or don't enter the topic and read it. Pretty simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowmass Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Popcorn- maybe you should find a diff band to follow. Sounds like Axl (lyrically) is too much for you to handle. Deep breath- go listen to some light rock. Maybe a song like Warrants "Heaven". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saber_ Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Instead of calling everybody you disagree with haters and cupcakes.....why not engage the person in a conversation? Show them how their topic or idea is wrong. This is a FORUM where people come to discuss GnR. If you don't like a topic - prove the poster wrong, or don't enter the topic and read it. Pretty simple.Dude, first of all, I rarely, if ever use the word "haters." Secondly, I think your definition of cupcake differs from mine. You seem to think I mean it in some mean-spirited, spiteful context. That's not it at all. It's a term that, to me, almost means "bullshitting." So don't take it personally.Thirdly, I was engaging him in conversation (notice he wasn't getting worked up over it and didn't take the word "cupcake" as uber personally as you do). I think that he knows the answers to each of the questions he's asked, and I did try to prove him wrong. Fourthly, I didn't mark his godamn thread and I never do. You're the one who averages more walls of text of arguing than I do. =b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmapelian Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 His song was controversial way back in the day when GnR were the biggest music act in the world and AFD and Lies were #1 and 2 on the charts. It's been so long since GnRwere relevant I'm sure people could give a fuck about this song anymore. What's it been, 20+ years since it came out.t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelonious Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 This old school rocker thinks that it is one of the greatest songs ever recorded... hell, Lies is one of the best albums... all that early speed shit, and then we rock! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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