finck6 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 it's a fact beta was axl's maid/housekeeper before shocking the world n' becoming axl's boss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Drama Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Well, Axl's actually her boss. Guns N' Roses is a business. Like any business, there is an owner and a general manager. The order of who is in charge is as follows:Owner: W. Axl RoseManager: Beta LebeisAssistant Manager: Fernando LebeisEmployees: Dizzy Reed, Richard Fortus, Stage crew, etc.However, I'm sure if Beta wanted to fire someone, she'd have to ask Axl first. All managers have limits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl_morris Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Well, Axl's actually her boss. Guns N' Roses is a business. Like any business, there is an owner and a general manager. The order of who is in charge is as follows:Owner: W. Axl RoseManager: Beta LebeisAssistant Manager: Fernando LebeisEmployees: Dizzy Reed, Richard Fortus, Stage crew, etc.However, I'm sure if Beta wanted to fire someone, she'd have to ask Axl first. All managers have limits.I thought Fernando was the manager? Beta is known not to even go to all the shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Drama Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Well, Axl's actually her boss. Guns N' Roses is a business. Like any business, there is an owner and a general manager. The order of who is in charge is as follows:Owner: W. Axl RoseManager: Beta LebeisAssistant Manager: Fernando LebeisEmployees: Dizzy Reed, Richard Fortus, Stage crew, etc.However, I'm sure if Beta wanted to fire someone, she'd have to ask Axl first. All managers have limits.I thought Fernando was the manager? Beta is known not to even go to all the shows.Then maybe they're co-managers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damn_Smooth Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 it's a fact beta was axl's maid/housekeeper before shocking the world n' becoming axl's bossIt's a fact that you're using a speech to text app because everybody knows that there's no way in hell that you know how to spell boss, much less any other word in your babbling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redhead74 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Well, Axl's actually her boss. Guns N' Roses is a business. Like any business, there is an owner and a general manager. The order of who is in charge is as follows:Owner: W. Axl RoseManager: Beta LebeisAssistant Manager: Fernando LebeisEmployees: Dizzy Reed, Richard Fortus, Stage crew, etc.However, I'm sure if Beta wanted to fire someone, she'd have to ask Axl first. All managers have limits.I thought Fernando was the manager? Beta is known not to even go to all the shows.Then maybe they're co-managers.I think they all kind of tow the line. From what I've heard Beta is the 'manager', Fernando is in charge of security and was also tour manager I think for the European tour (although Del James has also been tour manager in the past) and Vanessa plays a role too. If Beta is busy or not around Vanessa fills in for Beta. But this is just what I've read, not like I'm on the inside anything! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finck6 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Well, Axl's actually her boss. Guns N' Roses is a business. Like any business, there is an owner and a general manager. The order of who is in charge is as follows:Owner: W. Axl RoseManager: Beta LebeisAssistant Manager: Fernando LebeisEmployees: Dizzy Reed, Richard Fortus, Stage crew, etc.However, I'm sure if Beta wanted to fire someone, she'd have to ask Axl first. All managers have limits.I thought Fernando was the manager? Beta is known not to even go to all the shows.Then maybe they're co-managers.I think they all kind of tow the line. From what I've heard Beta is the 'manager', Fernando is in charge of security and was also tour manager I think for the European tour (although Del James has also been tour manager in the past) and Vanessa plays a role too. If Beta is busy or not around Vanessa fills in for Beta. But this is just what I've read, not like I'm on the inside anything!so beta is the manager. not fernando. meaning, beta is the guns n roses 'manager' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Drama Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Well, Axl's actually her boss. Guns N' Roses is a business. Like any business, there is an owner and a general manager. The order of who is in charge is as follows:Owner: W. Axl RoseManager: Beta LebeisAssistant Manager: Fernando LebeisEmployees: Dizzy Reed, Richard Fortus, Stage crew, etc.However, I'm sure if Beta wanted to fire someone, she'd have to ask Axl first. All managers have limits.I thought Fernando was the manager? Beta is known not to even go to all the shows.Then maybe they're co-managers.I think they all kind of tow the line. From what I've heard Beta is the 'manager', Fernando is in charge of security and was also tour manager I think for the European tour (although Del James has also been tour manager in the past) and Vanessa plays a role too. If Beta is busy or not around Vanessa fills in for Beta. But this is just what I've read, not like I'm on the inside anything!so beta is the manager. not fernando. meaning, beta is the guns n roses 'manager'Yeah, she's definitely the manager. But Axl's the owver, which makes him her boss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finck6 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Well, Axl's actually her boss. Guns N' Roses is a business. Like any business, there is an owner and a general manager. The order of who is in charge is as follows:Owner: W. Axl RoseManager: Beta LebeisAssistant Manager: Fernando LebeisEmployees: Dizzy Reed, Richard Fortus, Stage crew, etc.However, I'm sure if Beta wanted to fire someone, she'd have to ask Axl first. All managers have limits.I thought Fernando was the manager? Beta is known not to even go to all the shows.Then maybe they're co-managers.I think they all kind of tow the line. From what I've heard Beta is the 'manager', Fernando is in charge of security and was also tour manager I think for the European tour (although Del James has also been tour manager in the past) and Vanessa plays a role too. If Beta is busy or not around Vanessa fills in for Beta. But this is just what I've read, not like I'm on the inside anything!so beta is the manager. not fernando. meaning, beta is the guns n roses 'manager'Yeah, she's definitely the manager. But Axl's the owver, which makes him her boss.so beta is the 'manager' and axl is the 'boss.' that means team brazil (management) is basically nil when it comes 2 decisions since axl is the BOSS. and the 1 who makes the decisions. so in theory there is no team of any kind or management. there's just axl rose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirit Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Well, Axl's actually her boss. Guns N' Roses is a business. Like any business, there is an owner and a general manager. The order of who is in charge is as follows:Owner: W. Axl RoseManager: Beta LebeisAssistant Manager: Fernando LebeisEmployees: Dizzy Reed, Richard Fortus, Stage crew, etc.However, I'm sure if Beta wanted to fire someone, she'd have to ask Axl first. All managers have limits.I thought Fernando was the manager? Beta is known not to even go to all the shows.Then maybe they're co-managers.I think they all kind of tow the line. From what I've heard Beta is the 'manager', Fernando is in charge of security and was also tour manager I think for the European tour (although Del James has also been tour manager in the past) and Vanessa plays a role too. If Beta is busy or not around Vanessa fills in for Beta. But this is just what I've read, not like I'm on the inside anything!so beta is the manager. not fernando. meaning, beta is the guns n roses 'manager'Yeah, she's definitely the manager. But Axl's the owver, which makes him her boss.so beta is the 'manager' and axl is the 'boss.' that means team brazil (management) is basically nil when it comes 2 decisions since axl is the BOSS. and the 1 who makes the decisions. so in theory there is no team of any kind or management. there's just axl roseDo you even know what management is? They work in support of the artist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damn_Smooth Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Well, Axl's actually her boss. Guns N' Roses is a business. Like any business, there is an owner and a general manager. The order of who is in charge is as follows:Owner: W. Axl RoseManager: Beta LebeisAssistant Manager: Fernando LebeisEmployees: Dizzy Reed, Richard Fortus, Stage crew, etc.However, I'm sure if Beta wanted to fire someone, she'd have to ask Axl first. All managers have limits.I thought Fernando was the manager? Beta is known not to even go to all the shows.Then maybe they're co-managers.I think they all kind of tow the line. From what I've heard Beta is the 'manager', Fernando is in charge of security and was also tour manager I think for the European tour (although Del James has also been tour manager in the past) and Vanessa plays a role too. If Beta is busy or not around Vanessa fills in for Beta. But this is just what I've read, not like I'm on the inside anything!so beta is the manager. not fernando. meaning, beta is the guns n roses 'manager'Yeah, she's definitely the manager. But Axl's the owver, which makes him her boss.so beta is the 'manager' and axl is the 'boss.' that means team brazil (management) is basically nil when it comes 2 decisions since axl is the BOSS. and the 1 who makes the decisions. so in theory there is no team of any kind or management. there's just axl roseDo you even know what management is? They work in support of the artist.Don't bother. You know how they say that you can't teach an old dog new tricks? Well, you can't teach a stupid dog anything. This situation fits right in with the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redhead74 Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Well, Axl's actually her boss. Guns N' Roses is a business. Like any business, there is an owner and a general manager. The order of who is in charge is as follows:Owner: W. Axl RoseManager: Beta LebeisAssistant Manager: Fernando LebeisEmployees: Dizzy Reed, Richard Fortus, Stage crew, etc.However, I'm sure if Beta wanted to fire someone, she'd have to ask Axl first. All managers have limits.I thought Fernando was the manager? Beta is known not to even go to all the shows.Then maybe they're co-managers.I think they all kind of tow the line. From what I've heard Beta is the 'manager', Fernando is in charge of security and was also tour manager I think for the European tour (although Del James has also been tour manager in the past) and Vanessa plays a role too. If Beta is busy or not around Vanessa fills in for Beta. But this is just what I've read, not like I'm on the inside anything!so beta is the manager. not fernando. meaning, beta is the guns n roses 'manager'Yeah, she's definitely the manager. But Axl's the owver, which makes him her boss.so beta is the 'manager' and axl is the 'boss.' that means team brazil (management) is basically nil when it comes 2 decisions since axl is the BOSS. and the 1 who makes the decisions. so in theory there is no team of any kind or management. there's just axl roseAxl would have ultimate say of course, but I have also heard that he consults and trusts her with many decisions. Apparently he'll ask her opinion on things if he's concerned that he's perhaps not being fair when dealing with other people. That says to me that he is aware that his views are sometimes extreme and he WANTS to deal with people in ways that are socially acceptable to everyone around him. Interesting considering the way he gets crucified sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finck6 Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 (edited) Well, Axl's actually her boss. Guns N' Roses is a business. Like any business, there is an owner and a general manager. The order of who is in charge is as follows:Owner: W. Axl RoseManager: Beta LebeisAssistant Manager: Fernando LebeisEmployees: Dizzy Reed, Richard Fortus, Stage crew, etc.However, I'm sure if Beta wanted to fire someone, she'd have to ask Axl first. All managers have limits.I thought Fernando was the manager? Beta is known not to even go to all the shows.Then maybe they're co-managers.I think they all kind of tow the line. From what I've heard Beta is the 'manager', Fernando is in charge of security and was also tour manager I think for the European tour (although Del James has also been tour manager in the past) and Vanessa plays a role too. If Beta is busy or not around Vanessa fills in for Beta. But this is just what I've read, not like I'm on the inside anything!so beta is the manager. not fernando. meaning, beta is the guns n roses 'manager'Yeah, she's definitely the manager. But Axl's the owver, which makes him her boss.so beta is the 'manager' and axl is the 'boss.' that means team brazil (management) is basically nil when it comes 2 decisions since axl is the BOSS. and the 1 who makes the decisions. so in theory there is no team of any kind or management. there's just axl roseAxl would have ultimate say of course, but I have also heard that he consults and trusts her with many decisions. Apparently he'll ask her opinion on things if he's concerned that he's perhaps not being fair when dealing with other people. That says to me that he is aware that his views are sometimes extreme and he WANTS to deal with people in ways that are socially acceptable to everyone around him. Interesting considering the way he gets crucified sometimes.maybe it's time axl step up as the boss and hold a press conference on CD 2 Edited August 3, 2012 by finck6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Drama Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Well, Axl's actually her boss. Guns N' Roses is a business. Like any business, there is an owner and a general manager. The order of who is in charge is as follows:Owner: W. Axl RoseManager: Beta LebeisAssistant Manager: Fernando LebeisEmployees: Dizzy Reed, Richard Fortus, Stage crew, etc.However, I'm sure if Beta wanted to fire someone, she'd have to ask Axl first. All managers have limits.I thought Fernando was the manager? Beta is known not to even go to all the shows.Then maybe they're co-managers.I think they all kind of tow the line. From what I've heard Beta is the 'manager', Fernando is in charge of security and was also tour manager I think for the European tour (although Del James has also been tour manager in the past) and Vanessa plays a role too. If Beta is busy or not around Vanessa fills in for Beta. But this is just what I've read, not like I'm on the inside anything!so beta is the manager. not fernando. meaning, beta is the guns n roses 'manager'Yeah, she's definitely the manager. But Axl's the owver, which makes him her boss.so beta is the 'manager' and axl is the 'boss.' that means team brazil (management) is basically nil when it comes 2 decisions since axl is the BOSS. and the 1 who makes the decisions. so in theory there is no team of any kind or management. there's just axl roseYou've actually got kind of a point there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shotgunblues1978 Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 The artist is always the "boss." Typically they can shitcan their manager/agent at any time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finck6 Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 The artist is always the "boss." Typically they can shitcan their manager/agent at any time.so axl can shitcan beta/fernando at any time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astranged Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Cool! A thread about the meaning of boss n manager. Get fuckin real Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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