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The James Bond / SPECTRE (2015) Thread *Trailer First Post*


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I would prefer a story not connected to Bond's past. Skyfall did the 'past' thing and the series reset itself in the final scene of Skyfall. I would have liked a case-by-case thing. Why has Craig got to be mentally tortured all the time. Let him, just be Bond, for awhile, shag some birds, sip some Martinis.


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Unless they've changed gears and Oberhauser isn't actually Blofeld but a link towards getting to Blofeld. I wouldn't mind if they took the family connection as a way of trying to brainwash Bond to join SPECTRE. There were many instances of brainwashing Bond in the novels so it'd be a welcome piece of Fleming.

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Unless they've changed gears and Oberhauser isn't actually Blofeld but a link towards getting to Blofeld. I wouldn't mind if they took the family connection as a way of trying to brainwash Bond to join SPECTRE. There were many instances of brainwashing Bond in the novels so it'd be a welcome piece of Fleming.

 

The adding another layer thing is getting redundant now. - First Le Chiffre, Mr. Green, Mr. White, Silva, adding another new villain before Blofeld is just dragging the arse out of it.



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Some of the problem here is that they made such an arse over the Quantum/Mr White thing in the second film.



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Unless they've changed gears and Oberhauser isn't actually Blofeld but a link towards getting to Blofeld. I wouldn't mind if they took the family connection as a way of trying to brainwash Bond to join SPECTRE. There were many instances of brainwashing Bond in the novels so it'd be a welcome piece of Fleming.

 
The adding another layer thing is getting redundant now. - First Le Chiffre, Mr. Green, Mr. White, Silva, adding another new villain before Blofeld is just dragging the arse out of it.
Silva didn't have anything to do with Quantum/SPECTRE that we know of, but your point is still valid.

Some of the problem here is that they made such an arse over the Quantum/Mr White thing in the second film.

Just because the film was a bit of a mess doesn't mean they fucked up Quantum/ Mr. White. We still know relatively little about both.

 

 


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Unless they've changed gears and Oberhauser isn't actually Blofeld but a link towards getting to Blofeld. I wouldn't mind if they took the family connection as a way of trying to brainwash Bond to join SPECTRE. There were many instances of brainwashing Bond in the novels so it'd be a welcome piece of Fleming.

 
The adding another layer thing is getting redundant now. - First Le Chiffre, Mr. Green, Mr. White, Silva, adding another new villain before Blofeld is just dragging the arse out of it.
Silva didn't have anything to do with Quantum/SPECTRE that we know of, but your point is still valid.

Some of the problem here is that they made such an arse over the Quantum/Mr White thing in the second film.

Just because the film was a bit of a mess doesn't mean they fucked up Quantum/ Mr. White. We still know relatively little about both.

 

 

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Unless they've changed gears and Oberhauser isn't actually Blofeld but a link towards getting to Blofeld. I wouldn't mind if they took the family connection as a way of trying to brainwash Bond to join SPECTRE. There were many instances of brainwashing Bond in the novels so it'd be a welcome piece of Fleming.

 
The adding another layer thing is getting redundant now. - First Le Chiffre, Mr. Green, Mr. White, Silva, adding another new villain before Blofeld is just dragging the arse out of it.
Silva didn't have anything to do with Quantum/SPECTRE that we know of, but your point is still valid.

Some of the problem here is that they made such an arse over the Quantum/Mr White thing in the second film.

Just because the film was a bit of a mess doesn't mean they fucked up Quantum/ Mr. White. We still know relatively little about both.

 

 

Sort of. In the sense that Dominic Green (and La Chiffre) was just a stooge of Quantum I can see your point. But you can tell they wanted to avoid Quantum like a fart in a restaurant for Skyfall.



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Unless they've changed gears and Oberhauser isn't actually Blofeld but a link towards getting to Blofeld. I wouldn't mind if they took the family connection as a way of trying to brainwash Bond to join SPECTRE. There were many instances of brainwashing Bond in the novels so it'd be a welcome piece of Fleming.

 
The adding another layer thing is getting redundant now. - First Le Chiffre, Mr. Green, Mr. White, Silva, adding another new villain before Blofeld is just dragging the arse out of it.
I doubt any of the villains outside of Quantum were intentional layer adding to an eventual appearance of Blofeld/SPECTRE. While it's true that they will probably now try to connect all the Craig villains it's kind of a retrospective criticism. Le Chiffre is the villain in the Casino Royale novel with a connection to SMERSH, but only in his same little role as a banker who loses his clients' funds. Silva was an original stand alone, even though that might change now. Nevertheless, there was no mention of Quantum in Skyfall so at the time it was probably to distance it but now they may attempt to rectify the angle and eventually make Blofeld happen.

I suppose my overall point is that I doubt anybody watching Casino Royale at the time of release was thinking that it was a perfect set-up for Blofeld to return, so I don't think they've been dragging anything out. While people speculated at the time that Quantum could stand in for SPECTRE, there was nothing officially stated on the matter until the current film.

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True but my point stands, Spectre the film does not need to introduce another layer to the organisation if they decide to tie all of Craigs movies together. This movie should have Blofeld. It should be Waltz. If they make Waltz another decoy or villain behind whom Blofeld is hiding it will make it a bit tedious.



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I see that, but that's not to say Blofeld won't be in the film even if it's not Waltz. That said, I'm pretty sure it'll be Waltz even if the actual revelation doesn't happen on screen in this film.

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I would prefer a story not connected to Bond's past. Skyfall did the 'past' thing and the series reset itself in the final scene of Skyfall. I would have liked a case-by-case thing. Why has Craig got to be mentally tortured all the time. Let him, just be Bond, for awhile, shag some birds, sip some Martinis.

 

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Give me Moore and an eyebrow.

 

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