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Duff's bass sound


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I feel that Duff's bass sound today is a LOT different from his GN'R days, especially the UYI era. He had a very sludgy, dirty sort of grungy sound with his bass particularly in the UYI era.
Today I feel he has too "clean" a bass sound...Can't explain it but it just doesn't have that sort of "grit". An example of his classic sound:


It had a dirty, yet groovy, sort of sound...Today it's much cleaner and much more "modern" sounding. Anyone else agree and miss his classic sound? I really think Duff was more important to Guns' sound than some realize. His bass had such a unique signature and was very prominent on the old records. Duff's bass sound was so prominent in old GN'R's records that Metallica actually seriously wanted Mike Clink to produce "And Justice for All..." because they'd heard AFD and how powerful the bass sounded in the mix and wanted that heavy bass sound for "And Justice..."
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i love duff's sound. old and now.
the sound of his bass was SO important to GNR.

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I've always considered Duff to be the most talented musician in the original lineup.
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My favorite Duff bass tone/playing was Contraband era.

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It's pretty solid, I always liked it. Mixed punk, funk and rock bass styles into a simple but real melodic sound. He's actually looked over a lot in the bass community IMO - not that I'm a bass player. Had a hell of a lot of chorus effect on his UYI bass playing though.

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Duff's sound has a lot of Chorus effect in it. That along with his pick technique make up for his great tone. Haven't heard his sound lately. Can you post an example?

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Step 1: Slather enough chorus on bass to ice a cake.
Step 2: Pick very near the bridge.

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Duff's sound has a lot of Chorus effect in it. That along with his pick technique make up for his great tone

This is true.

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Dont Cry is enough to solidify his greatness and no one can do dangerous sound like Duff can.

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Duff has changed up his tone quite frequently. On Appetite it was a fairly thick, but clean tone. A little grit but that was more because he was probably picking hard. If you check out the multitracks for Jungle you can see (hear, rather) what I mean. It's got balls but is clear enough that you hear every note. He cranked the chorus to 11 for the Illusions but still maintained that bottom end. Truly a great bass tone and very distinctive. Nowadays his tone with Velvet Revolver and so forth has been like a modern version of his Appetite tone. Less chorus, a little more drive, and still balls to the walls.

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My favorite Duff bass tone/playing was Contraband era.


Same here, it was great on UYI too.

Lately he's just been adjusting his tone to fit into individual songs, for example his part in Gravedancer wouldn't sound nearly as good if he was using as much gain as he did throughout UYI and Contraband

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i recall appetite was due to klink as far as bass tone/sound ... i love his tone on UYI especially locomotive

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Yeah, his tone was definitely great.

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Bassists never gets respect unless it's Geddy and Les or the jazz & funk players. But you have all sorts of bass frontmen and guys who play it like a lead guitar.

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i recall appetite was due to klink as far as bass tone/sound ... i love his tone on UYI especially locomotive


I think in that case it was just making sure Duff didn't get buried in the mix and some discussions on how to make it sound, but doubt it was anything in depth. I'm sure Duff's done interviews about it.




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