Snowmass Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Is his voice shot because of the '87-93 era, because he's old or because he doesn't take care of himself? Watching (youtube) this Rocklahoma shit it's embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maynard Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 see you in attitude! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowmass Posted May 27, 2013 Author Share Posted May 27, 2013 see you in attitude!Move this to attitude if so necessary.....but it's a legit question I think. Is the voice shot due to abuse ('87-'93) or age and not taking care? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno P. Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 We don't know. I wonder why NOBODY asks him that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Is his voice shot because of the '87-93 era, because he's old or because he doesn't take care of himself? Watching (youtube) this Rocklahoma shit it's embarrassing. I would say so. He really abused of his voice when real Guns was around. He spent YEARS doing nothing, that also contributed to his voice being horrible nowadays.That said, he sounded great in 2010, I don't know what the happened in few months, all the horrible, awful, weak vocals started in Rio 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trqster Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Axl's voice mysteries... Fact is that his voice was shot back in '01 & '02....then it was very good once again in '06 & '07 and finally all mighty in '10 before it cracked at the beginning of '11 and never really recovered ever since... Go figure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustycage Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 When you don't take care of yourself and rehearse consistently, the voice goes to shit. Although it's probably blamed on someone else, the fault is all Axl and not necessarily age. Sure, at 50+, your voice wont be as strong but a singer knows not to add breathing problems and weak vocal muscles to the aging effect.I want to know who he thinks is to blame. Father time or himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trqster Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 It seems that the 'voice' is slowly improving.... From last night show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 It seems that the 'voice' is slowly improving.... From last night show.lol improvingAwful and weak vocals bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birk Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Sounds like he is straining, which can be caused by a number of things...the slightest cold can fuck you up, or to many drinks the night before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfierose Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 At the risk of being controversial (and the following is pure supposition) I read something recently that reminded me about the discussions re Axl's very deep speaking voice back in the 80s vs todays higher sounding voice.The article was about bulimia and how it affects the vocal chords basically making a persons voice sound deep (there are other things that can do this of course, thyroid issues for example) but it made me think of Axl because it also mentioned the eroding of tooth enamel as a side effect and we all remember the old teeth....Anyway just one possible theory, I do feel a bit bad bringing it up because it is a horrid psychological disorder but I wondered what other people thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NachoLZ Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 It seems that the 'voice' is slowly improving.... From last night show. even if it improves, it will sound just like any welcome to the jungle from 2012, in 2012 every wttj from the european tour had rasp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facekicker Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 I think it is due to a variety of reasons. I think we can all agree that age takes its toll on every singer. Then there is the issue of Axl's singing style. Difficult to keep that up.That being said, he could be in better shape and doing more to protect his voice. We've seen numerous photos of Axl smoking cigars, even recently. Then there is his drinking. We don't know if he is on medication or if he uses recreational drugs. There are rumours about that latter, no proof though. We also don't know if he has a vocal coach and to what extent he rehearses. The evidence suggests not much. I think tht is a pretty fair picture of the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuanVictor Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 all the horrible, awful, weak vocals started in Rio 2011.No, he was already losing his voice by the end of 2010:Don't Cry: Paradise City: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSeeker Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 At the risk of being controversial (and the following is pure supposition) I read something recently that reminded me about the discussions re Axl's very deep speaking voice back in the 80s vs todays higher sounding voice.The article was about bulimia and how it affects the vocal chords basically making a persons voice sound deep (there are other things that can do this of course, thyroid issues for example) but it made me think of Axl because it also mentioned the eroding of tooth enamel as a side effect and we all remember the old teeth....Anyway just one possible theory, I do feel a bit bad bringing it up because it is a horrid psychological disorder but I wondered what other people thought.I know someone who did cocaine with Axl a few years ago, and if you look at what that drug did to Whitney Houston's voice...it's possible drug abuse could be doing the same thing to Axl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfierose Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 At the risk of being controversial (and the following is pure supposition) I read something recently that reminded me about the discussions re Axl's very deep speaking voice back in the 80s vs todays higher sounding voice.The article was about bulimia and how it affects the vocal chords basically making a persons voice sound deep (there are other things that can do this of course, thyroid issues for example) but it made me think of Axl because it also mentioned the eroding of tooth enamel as a side effect and we all remember the old teeth....Anyway just one possible theory, I do feel a bit bad bringing it up because it is a horrid psychological disorder but I wondered what other people thought. I know someone who did cocaine with Axl a few years ago, and if you look at what that drug did to Whitney Houston's voice...it's possible drug abuse could be doing the same thing to Axl.That is quite possible. I wasn't meaning his current voice though. I remember there was a thread after he appeared on Kimmel wondering why his speaking voice in the 80s was so deep compared to now and that's what I thought of when I read the article. I don't doubt he is probably still partial to a bit of Splenda these days still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philly Guns Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 It seems that the 'voice' is slowly improving.... From last night show.lol improvingAwful and weak vocals bro.Yea hearing people say his voice is improving is just as funny as them saying he is losing weight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trqster Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Like I said before Axl's vocals are slowly improving... I f he keeps going like this, maybe we'll even see a repeat of Philly '12 show kind of voice shape. From 2m35s to 3m00s in the video it's pretty obvious that Axl's still got it (the rasp) and unfortunately chooses not to use it most of times. TIL with plenty of rasp on the first part of the song is also pretty rare... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Maybe he's working on getting the rasp back so they can hit the studios! Not great, but definitely sounding better in those clips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJones90 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 (edited) He hasn't lost shit. When he bothers to put enough effort in when he wants to, it's just as good as ever. Edited May 28, 2013 by OJones90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philly Guns Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 He hasn't lost shit. When he bothers to put enough effort in when he wants to, it's just as good as ever. I do agree that he hasn't lost it, but the effort put into keeping his voice in shape is not there. You always hear glimpses of his rasp, and usually always is spot on for the first three songs of the set, but after that he flatlines into mickey. I don't think 2006 / 2010 voice was just a fluke, he could easily just get back to that with getting in better shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 (edited) You know it's bad when someone needs to overanalyze Youtube videos and says something like "He sounded like shit the whole video but from 2:59 to 3:01, there were 3 seconds of rasp, so he's improving!". I'm sorry but that's not what I wanted for and from my favorite singer and frontman of all time. Edited May 28, 2013 by pi2loc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NachoLZ Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 You know it's bad when someone needs to overanalyze Youtube videos and says something like "He sounded like shit the whole video but from 2:59 to 3:01, there were 3 seconds of rasp, so he's improving!". I'm sorry but that's not what I wanted for and from my favorite singer and frontman of all time.This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maynard Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 You know it's bad when someone needs to overanalyze Youtube videos and says something like "He sounded like shit the whole video but from 2:59 to 3:01, there were 3 seconds of rasp, so he's improving!". I'm sorry but that's not what I wanted for and from my favorite singer and frontman of all time.This+1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Un42nutzly Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 I think it all surrounds confidence. You see him in 2010 showing his face and showing some aggression. same with 2006 and 80s and 90s. Now he seems to lack self confidence and aggression which may be delaying inspiration in his voice. I still believe Axl has the greatest rock n roll voice nowadays and there is no point in bashing him further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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