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From a search for Robin's name at https://www.ascap.com/Home/ace-title-search/index.aspx

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BETTER

Work ID: 323536438

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CATCHER IN THE RYE

Work ID: 334474378

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CHINESE DEMOCRACY

Work ID: 334393698

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PROSTITUTE

Work ID: 463436497

5.

RIAD N' THE BEDOUINS

Work ID: 482479334

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SHACKLER S REVENGE

Work ID: 495999098

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STREET OF DREAMS

Work ID: 497227195

Strange that he has credits on songs that feature him in no way. Maybe Axl should bring him back as a writer. Before the "integrity" crowd rushes in, I'll politely remind them that they're full of shit if they think skulletboy has any. :shrugs:

I think I remember seeing someone on here say that Tobias did the credits for the booklet from memory and that's why Finck is only on Better.

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From a search for Robin's name at https://www.ascap.com/Home/ace-title-search/index.aspx

1.

BETTER

Work ID: 323536438

2.

CATCHER IN THE RYE

Work ID: 334474378

3.

CHINESE DEMOCRACY

Work ID: 334393698

4.

PROSTITUTE

Work ID: 463436497

5.

RIAD N' THE BEDOUINS

Work ID: 482479334

6.

SHACKLER S REVENGE

Work ID: 495999098

7.

STREET OF DREAMS

Work ID: 497227195

Strange that he has credits on songs that feature him in no way.

Robin is featured in all the CD songs. If you meant solos, those are not enough to have a writing credit anyways.

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From a search for Robin's name at https://www.ascap.com/Home/ace-title-search/index.aspx

1.

BETTER

Work ID: 323536438

2.

CATCHER IN THE RYE

Work ID: 334474378

3.

CHINESE DEMOCRACY

Work ID: 334393698

4.

PROSTITUTE

Work ID: 463436497

5.

RIAD N' THE BEDOUINS

Work ID: 482479334

6.

SHACKLER S REVENGE

Work ID: 495999098

7.

STREET OF DREAMS

Work ID: 497227195

Strange that he has credits on songs that feature him in no way.

Robin is featured in all the CD songs. If you meant solos, those are not enough to have a writing credit anyways.

1. Chinese Democracy

Album credits: Axl, Josh Freese

ASCAP: Axl, Josh Freese, Robin, Tommy, Dizzy, Paul, Eric Caudieux and Caram Costanzo

2. Shackler's Revenge

Album credits: Axl, Buckethead, Caram Costanzo, Brain and Pete Scaturro

ASCAP: Axl, Buckethead, Robin, Caram Costanzo, Brain and Pete Scaturro

3. Better

Album credits: Axl, Robin

ASCAP: Axl, Robin

4. Street of Dreams

Album credits: Axl, Dizzy and Tommy

ASCAP: Axl, Dizzy, Tommy, Robin and Paul

5. If The World

Album credits: Axl, Chris

ASCAP: Axl, Chris

6. There Was A Time

Album credits: Axl, Paul and Dizzy

ASCAP: Axl, Paul, Tommy and Dizzy

7. Catcher in the Rye

Album credits: Axl and Paul

ASCAP: Axl, Paul, Robin, Dizzy and Tommy

8. Scraped

Album credits: Axl, Buckethead and Caram Costanzo

ASCAP: Axl, Buckethead and Caram Costanzo

9. Riad and the Bedouins

Album credits: Axl, Tommy

ASCAP: Axl, Tommy, Robin, Dizzy and Paul

10. Sorry

Album credits: Axl, Buckethead, Brain and Pete Scaturro

ASCAP: Axl, Buckethead, Brain and Pete Scaturro

11. IRS

Album credits: Axl, Paul and Dizzy

ASCAP: Axl, Paul and Dizzy

12. Madagascar

Album credits: Axl, Chris

ASCAP: Axl, Chris and Martin Luther King 14.gif

13. This I Love

Album credits: Axl

ASCAP: Axl

14. Prostitute

Album credits: Axl, Paul

ASCAP: Axl, Paul and Robin

Therefore:

Robin - Six additional credits (total of seven)

Dizzy - Three additional credits (total of six)

Tommy - Three additional credits (total of five)

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From a search for Robin's name at https://www.ascap.com/Home/ace-title-search/index.aspx

1.

BETTER

Work ID: 323536438

2.

CATCHER IN THE RYE

Work ID: 334474378

3.

CHINESE DEMOCRACY

Work ID: 334393698

4.

PROSTITUTE

Work ID: 463436497

5.

RIAD N' THE BEDOUINS

Work ID: 482479334

6.

SHACKLER S REVENGE

Work ID: 495999098

7.

STREET OF DREAMS

Work ID: 497227195

Strange that he has credits on songs that feature him in no way.

Robin is featured in all the CD songs. If you meant solos, those are not enough to have a writing credit anyways.

Since they're giving Martin Luther King credit for Madagascar, it's pretty easy to see how little you have to do to get a credit from ASCAP. :shrugs:

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I'd love to to hear what the album sounded like at that time. That line up and whatever Axl was going for, this is as close to his original vision of CD as you'll see. Not the biggest fan of Robin but Bucket and Brain are the real deal. It all just looked and felt weird as hell.

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He has written material for Gary Numan, NIN and Crying 4 Kafka, at least.

I wonder why that doesn't show up on ASCAP.

Gary Numan's record isn't out yet...

But it's definitely an interesting point. When Robin joined in 1999 he basically had no writing experience yet most people like to recall his tenure fondly. Dj, by contrast, has an abundance of writing experience yet based on image/live playing (which Robin himself was scrutinized for) we are set against the notion of him being on a GNR album.

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Robin Finck is a better writer than DJ will ever be, and please don't mention the horrible Sixx AM stuff. Robin has credits for ALOT of CD songs, and it's a testament to him. DJ's solos in Sixx AM songs sound like any other generic solos you'll hear unsigned bands playing in bars. And what more Robin more or less wrote Better, which is one of the best GN'R songs ever. When DJ writes anything even near the quality of Better, then come back and debate it...

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I got to disagree too. I saw them in Columbus in 2002. It was great to see them because even at that point, we didn't know if anything would ever materialize. It was a good show, but pales in comparison to Auburn Hills 2006. The band was tighter and Axl sounded as good as he ever has. To me that was the best chance the band has ever had to get out of the shadows of the old band. Sadly, nothing has changed or materialized like we would have liked and the future of GNR looks kind of dim for me.

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Robin has credits for ALOT of CD songs, and it's a testament to him.

I'm a Finck fan, but can you point out something other than Chinese Democracy which illustrates his songwriting prowess? It was only through GNR that Robin really gained any writing chops.

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