ClaudeF Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 From what I've been able to research online, these are the leaks of complete songs to date. What is missing?Pre-2007:I.R.S. (version 1 instrumental) 4:16I.R.S. (version 1)* 4:16Better (version 1 instrumental) 4:57Better (version 1)* 4:57 Note: Contains the "I know you know you know better" verse cut from later renditions.There Was a Time (1999 version) 5:01There Was a Time (version 1 instrumental) 5:55There Was a time (version 1) 5:55There Was a Time (version 2)* 6:33Catcher in the Rye (version 1/84 BPM version)* 5:38 Note: Some distortion during instrumental passage.Catcher in the Rye (version 2/86 BPM version) 6:07 Note: Some distortion during instrumental passage.My Fellow Americans [a.k.a. Track 18] (neither confirmed nor disproven as a GNR track) 1:57 Note: Includes radio announcer from the Hindenburg explosion saying, "Oh the humanity."Note: The tracks marked with an asterisk (*) appeared in lossless quality on the "Chinese Democracy" two-CD pirated disc (seen here: http://www.discogs.com/Guns-N-Roses-Chinese-Democracy/release/3765115). That they are from a cleaner source than the original leaks is most obvious on "Catcher in the Rye" which does not have the distortion/tape flutter heard in the mp3 versions.2007:Chinese Democracy (version 1) 4:47 Note: Final lyric says, "Like if your ass was your head, you could tell that you're out of time."There Was a Time (Version 3) 6:40Better (version 2) 5:00The Blues (version 1) 4:47 Note: No words, just vocal sounds at end. Momentary distortion/dropout in final seconds.I.R.S. (version 3) 4:28Madagascar (version 1) 5:42Pre-November 2008:Riad n' the Bedouins 3:42There Was a Time (version 4) 6:42Better (version 3) 4:58Chinese Democracy (version 2) 4:44Prostitute 6:11If the World 4:55The Blues (version 2) Note: Similar to version 1 but with additional drum fill prior to last verse. No dropouts.The Blues (version 3)/Street of Dreams 4:45I.R.S. (version 4) 4:27Madagascar (version 2) 5:42Shackler's Revenge 3:352012:Oh My God (mastered/remastered version) 3:40 Note: Noticeably clearer than recording heard on "End of Days" soundtrack.2013:Better Gone 4:20Better (Bumblefoor version) 5:06Better (DJ Ashba version) 5:46Blood in the Water 4:03Going Down 4:28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wfuckinga Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 I'd love to hear some of these, haven't heard the remastered OMG, or the pre-2007 leaks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeF Posted September 2, 2013 Author Share Posted September 2, 2013 Google and Youtube are your friends. Especially if you use the words guns roses demo [and the song title] in the search. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangit Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Omg hasn't leaked to the 'general' fan base has it? Nice timeline. Never noticed the slight difference in the better version.Virtually all the 2006 / 07 leaks were 'clips' before full release. Good times! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeF Posted September 2, 2013 Author Share Posted September 2, 2013 The mastered version of "Oh My God" is the same recording as the soundtrack version but the instruments and vocals are vastly superior in terms of audio fidelity. The remix MSL heard is not yet in circulation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estrangedtwat Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 why not include a list of stuff MSL has...the remixes? we know now he was telling the truth back then. even if we don't have them, we still know they exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Jay Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Never heard that "My Fellow Americans" song before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Jesus Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Forgot the multi-tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Drama Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Forgot the Jackie Chan clip. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 I don't think a second CITR ever leaked. Just a "remaster".Also, manet's thread is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsh327 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 We'll probably hear the rest of the leaks, they're probably waiting to see if any action is taken with these recent leaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeBaZ Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?/topic/196062-the-definitive-chinese-democracy-leaks-thread/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManetsBR Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 I don't think a second CITR ever leaked. Just a "remaster".Also, manet's thread is better. My thread is more of an article, this is more of a guide.http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?/topic/196062-the-definitive-chinese-democracy-leaks-thread/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wfuckinga Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Does anybody have the multitracks they could send me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 IRS 99 is missing from the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoBrA2168 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Since when is there a "higher fidelity" version of the pre-2007 tracks? Anyone heard these before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 I don't think a second CITR ever leaked. Just a "remaster".Also, manet's thread is better. My thread is more of an article, this is more of a guide.http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?/topic/196062-the-definitive-chinese-democracy-leaks-thread/Agreed, but this list seems more vague (and I'm not sure about some things on it) and doesn't list sources etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bansidhe Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Remember "Love & Laughter"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeF Posted September 2, 2013 Author Share Posted September 2, 2013 I left out clips to only focus on complete songs.How long does the 1999 version of "I.R.S." run?Cobra, the higher fidelity versions are on the "Chinese Democracy" 2-disc that came out in early 2008 (I linked to the Discogs listing of it).What was "Love & Laughter"? Never heard of that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 IRS 99 is the full song. Don't know the length off hand, but about 4 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Diet Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Some more info IIRC, MSL gave the four leaked tracks to someone else in exchange for the "Grenade cover" version of Chinese Democracy, and that other party leaked the tracks. MSL claims to have the following tracks:1. Blood in the Water2. Better (remix with DJ Ashba guitar replacing Robin Finck)3. Better (new acoustic version)4. Shacklers Revenge remix (including Street Fighter II samples)5. If The World remix6&7. DJ Ashba solos (Mi Amor and Ballad of Death, as played live on the tour)8. Oh My God (new version)9. Silkworms (studio version)10.This I Love (Alternate version with Buckethead solo)11.Going Down (Tommy Stinson on lead vocals)Never heard that "My Fellow Americans" song before.Maybe it's a fake one?I've read hundreds of pages of the CD leaks, but never heard this one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManetsBR Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 My Fellow Americans? Never during my researches to make the Definitive Thread I came across that title. Not even once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bansidhe Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 What was "Love & Laughter"? Never heard of that one.Was a good 2 or 3 years before the record dropped.Mid tempo song with an Axl'esque vocal and a guitar part which reminded me of Brian May.Assuming it was nothing but oddly all mention of it seemed to disappear within a couple of weeks.Never heard it mentioned again since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axlsalinger Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 I remember that "My Fellow Americans" track coming up at one point - this was a very long time ago. Pretty sure it was quickly declared a fake and dismissed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bansidhe Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 There was an instrumental track which did the rounds on the filesharing sites about 10 years back which was labelled "There Was A Time" which although clearly not that tune, never seemed to be identified. The guitar tone sounded very much like the live sound Finck used in NIN and it had some dark sounding synths. The verses had a slightly aggressive riff in an odd time signature but what I gather was the chorus had a more traditional rock feel. I kinda liked it though I've never known where it came from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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