Lies They Tell Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 So Axl talked about Riad in the alternative CD booklet:"Riad is the name my one time momentary brother in law and the former brother in law of Erin Everly, went by when i knew him. Of part Lebanese descent and a former student of Pepperdine University, he claims to be an international arms dealer, billionaire with ambitions of being "king of the world". He claims to fund several medical organizations and underground Nazi organizations around the world who says his heroes are Napolean and Adolph Hitler. He claims his most prized asset is his anonymity. He also claims to be an expert in military strategy, and was the inspiration for the guns song Civil War, which was written per his request for a song how "people were stupid and he could sell them anything because men love to kill each other". He also claims to be an expert in global finance and money laundering. Living tax free in Belair last I was aware, and claiming to launder monies for wealthy individuals in several countries predominantly Saudi Arabia and the Middle East. With ties to the Bush / Regan administrations and wherever theres a war in the world at any given moment " According to Axl the whole album was made because people like Riad exist:This album wasn't made so much for myself,money, ego or fame. It was made because Riad and those like him exist, no one seemsto care or have any idea how to approachsuch a complex reality and unfortunatelywe all suffer.He also mentions Riad in this letter to Erin:But seriously who is that guy and who are the bedouins? They had a plan and thought they'd win, but what was their plan? Do we know anything else about Riad? Rumours or anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figueredo Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 All I know is that there is a useless ambient intro to it, and that was stolen! Way to go Pitman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wfuckinga Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 That it is a masterpiece song and pitman's intro is almost as good as Silkworms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 It's a shame they never played it live again. It IS the worst song on Chinese Democracy but still, they played every song BUT Riad in '09. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wfuckinga Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Because it was too hard for Ashba to play 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatashame Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 So Axl talked about Riad in the alternative CD booklet:sorry if I'm not up to date, but can I get a hold of this alternative CD booklet you are quoting?thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 So Axl talked about Riad in the alternative CD booklet:sorry if I'm not up to date, but can I get a hold of this alternative CD booklet you are quoting?thanksIt's in the Red Hand version of the album. Unless you luck out and find one, and are willing to shell out hundreds of dollars, then you can find scans of it online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfierose Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 His most prized asset is his anonymity? Apart from the fact we all know he is Erin and Axl's former brother in law, what university he went to and other background information all found on the insert of the most expensive and anticipated album on the planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faxl Rows Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Funniest thread I've read in a while. Damn shame they can't crank it out live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 It's a shame they never played it live again. It IS the worst song on Chinese Democracy but still, they played every song BUT Riad in '09.Scraped is the worst song on CD. Riad is amazing but too complex for some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
there is no dana only zool Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Happy to say that I was able to see it performed in Detroit 02, the last time they've ever played it (and actually, as long as I'm bragging, Scraped in Worcester, MA, 2011). I'm glad Axl was able to profile someone like this in his album. People like that seem horrible for society as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno P. Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Because it was too hard for Ashba to playYou beat me to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snooze72 Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?/topic/157528-still-no-riad-on-this-tour/page-3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seagullview Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 These alternative booklets are interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinyrobot Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 "momentary brother in law and former brother in law of Erin".... whaaaaaaaaat? I got lost!!! Who would that be? Erin has sister?By the way Axl describes this guy, sounds like it's either Bin Laden or Snowden or the members of ISIS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 That we should pretend it never existed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 It's a shame they never played it live again. It IS the worst song on Chinese Democracy but still, they played every song BUT Riad in '09.Scraped is the worst song on CD. Riad is amazing.Agreed.Riad is the only true real rocking type song on the album.One of my favorites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Bumblefoot: The first time I met [Axl], he came down to a rehearsal and we jammed to the song "Riad" and he was yelling in my ear, "This part of the song reminds me of 'Hey Bulldog' from the Beatles." I was like, "Yeah, you're right." [ultimate Guitar, July 2014] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 It's a shame they never played it live again. It IS the worst song on Chinese Democracy but still, they played every song BUT Riad in '09.Scraped is the worst song on CD. Riad is amazing.Agreed.Riad is the only true real rocking type song on the album.One of my favorites.Poor choice of words on my part. Scraped is my least favourite song on CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Dude Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 I love Riad. Its got a cool retro-futuristic maniacal melancholy exuberance to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcountry Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 (edited) I have always liked Riad. I don't think it gets the credit it deserved. ITW, Sorry and catcher I don't care for but they do get alot of love from others, just not my cup of tea. Edited March 25, 2015 by bigcountry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncitingChaos Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Get some background singers and This song would be awesome live.It honestly had some of his best vocals on CD in this song, and if I were to bet I would say cd2 sounds like riad. It's a great mix of agression and calmness. Weird song in that sense but cd2 probably has much more of this. They are likely songs that are difficult to play live also, which may or may not be a reason for no cd2 yet. Axl is 53. This song seems out of his range now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Dude Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 (edited) Get some background singers and This song would be awesome live.It honestly had some of his best vocals on CD in this song, and if I were to bet I would say cd2 sounds like riad. It's a great mix of agression and calmness. Weird song in that sense but cd2 probably has much more of this. They are likely songs that are difficult to play live also, which may or may not be a reason for no cd2 yet. Axl is 53. This song seems out of his range now.I agree. Riad seems to be a mystical cross pollination of rock star vessel and visionary intellect but with barbaric undertones originating from what amounts to the basis of the savagery in our species. Much like the protagonist author himself Its uplifiting in spiritual fortitude yet unflinchingly fatalistic in methodology. The biggest thing I take away from its overarching narrative and microcosmic machinations; to be the man you gotta beat the man. Edited March 25, 2015 by Mr. Dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncitingChaos Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Idk Mr.Dude...I think you are overarching on the narrative of the song. The undertones fail to support the psychological hardships taking place at the base of the composition. Wouldn't this song be a great intro to a concert though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestro Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 They did rehearse it for the 2006 tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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