The UYI's documentary....

[Snowmass]

Marc-This may have been touched on before and if so I apologize. It's well known that Guns were having a documentary type film made of the Illusions's tour. How far along/how close to completion is this? Why was it never completed & released? Have you seen any of it and will it ever see the light of day?

[dalsh327]

Did they film (no videotape) full length shows?

[Izzy_Stradlin_XX]

Did they film (no videotape) full length shows?

Every UYI tour show was recorded with video and audio. Probably some shows from 87/88 too. The vault's full of gems and amazing stuff by the band, and it really is stupid

that we'll never get to see any of it because of Axl.

[John Bonham]

The film is called PERFECT CRIME, and it is allegedly finished. Will we see it?

"Not in this Axl's lifetime."

[recklessroad]

I don't think they put it all together. I think it was just the trailer that was made to help get it funded, but then that band fell apart so nothing ever became of it. My guess is after everyone that was involved in the film is dead is when they will put something together.

[Amir]

"I was in charge of the documentary crew for a while that was on the Use Your Illusions tour." - Del James.

Slash said there was some killer footage. This and Dale Resteghini's 2010 documentary are the two videos I wish were out there.

Marc, did you ever consider compiling all the video interviews you did for the Reckless Road Vook/Apps into a documentary? I guess the main issue would be getting clearance from Axl & Co. :/

Edited January 15, 2014 by Amir

[recklessroad]

Anyone that has the money to buy the songs rights from the publishing co can do it I think they are about 50k a song. If the right person wanted to make something cool I would work with them. I turned down 25k 2 years ago from someone that wanted to take all my stuff and use what they want. I said only if I get to see what they wanted to use first. I can't just let someone use what ever they want. My job is the protect the band and make sure they use the right things. We would love to make a cool DVD of the book with the video interviews but it would take a lot on money to put it together so we just have to wait until the right person comes along.

Edited January 15, 2014 by recklessroad

[wfuckinga]

Do you have the trailer, or is it in the vault?

[classicrawker]

Hey Marc,

Have you ever seen the Pete Makowski 1987 Marquee trip documentary that supposedly exists?

Also do you know what the band has for SB audio and proshot video from the AFD era?

Was it common practice for the band to record their shows back then or is it just the material you recorded and other audience recorded stuff?

thanks..............

[Damn_Smooth]

Anyone that has the money to buy the songs rights from the publishing co can do it I think they are about 50k a song. If the right person wanted to make something cool I would work with them. I turned down 25k 2 years ago from someone that wanted to take all my stuff and use what they want. I said only if I get to see what they wanted to use first. I can't just let someone use what ever they want. My job is the protect the band and make sure they use the right things. We would love to make a cool DVD of the book with the video interviews but it would take a lot on money to put it together so we just have to wait until the right person comes along.

Ever thought of starting a Kickstarter? Would you be able to do it yourself if you were able to raise the money? I would definitely donate to that cause.

[Nosaj Thing]

I agree with DS. I would donate as well.

[dalsh327]

Anyone that has the money to buy the songs rights from the publishing co can do it I think they are about 50k a song. If the right person wanted to make something cool I would work with them. I turned down 25k 2 years ago from someone that wanted to take all my stuff and use what they want. I said only if I get to see what they wanted to use first. I can't just let someone use what ever they want. My job is the protect the band and make sure they use the right things. We would love to make a cool DVD of the book with the video interviews but it would take a lot on money to put it together so we just have to wait until the right person comes along.

Ever thought of starting a Kickstarter? Would you be able to do it yourself if you were able to raise the money? I would definitely donate to that cause.

Did they film (no videotape) full length shows?

Every UYI tour show was recorded with video and audio. Probably some shows from 87/88 too. The vault's full of gems and amazing stuff by the band, and it really is stupid

that we'll never get to see any of it because of Axl.

There's a difference between a film crew and a video crew, I'm asking if there was a film crew that shot full length shows from 91-93. As far as 87-88, I don't think many bands took video of the support acts, but Aerosmith and GNR being on the same label, may have.

[Dean]

Did they film (no videotape) full length shows?

Every UYI tour show was recorded with video and audio. Probably some shows from 87/88 too. The vault's full of gems and amazing stuff by the band, and it really is stupid

that we'll never get to see any of it because of Axl.

I don't know what to believe about every show being recorded. As if that were the case, we probably would have had a much different Live album than what we got with Live Era.

[wfuckinga]

I'd chip in to the Kickstater

[zepsun]

Marc, I'm a video editor with a music background if you need help - I can sync or cut together anything.

I work on an industry standard Mac Pro with FCP and After Effects.

[Subtle Signs]

Marc if you started a kickstarter campaign and had Slash and Duff tweet about it, I bet the money would be raised fairly quickly. If someone donates a lot that person could get a cool perk like an Executive Producer credit or a meeting with Slash.

[recklessroad]

I wouldn't want to take on a project like that but if the right person was doing it I would step in and help them put it together. I would love to do something like that with Del. Axl would have to be on board for that which I don't see happening anytime soon but that would be the way to go. That was always a thought since 1993 when I started working on this stuff. In 2007 I thought that Axl would see how cool the book was and how important that history was and give me permission to do something else. The one I was trying to impress the most turned out to be the only one who would rather not even have it out there.

[wfuckinga]

Marc if you started a kickstarter campaign and had Slash and Duff tweet about it, I bet the money would be raised fairly quickly. If someone donates a lot that person could get a cool perk like an Executive Producer credit or a meeting with Slash.

I think a cool perk for a big donation would be lunch at Canter's Deli with Marc, Slash, Duff and Steven at the GNR booth.

[Subtle Signs]

Marc if you started a kickstarter campaign and had Slash and Duff tweet about it, I bet the money would be raised fairly quickly. If someone donates a lot that person could get a cool perk like an Executive Producer credit or a meeting with Slash.

I think a cool perk for a big donation would be lunch at Canter's Deli with Marc, Slash, Duff and Steven at the GNR booth.

I agree but that would probably go for like $5-10,000.We could all chip in $100&get 5 minutes each in the booth.

[Lim666]

Marc, at the point right now all seems to be on ice and before Axl would be open up to make peace with you and also the AFD era nothing will really change. Knowing Axl's behaviour when he is pissed.....well, it can be a loooooooong time process before this would ever work out some cool.

my question is:
theoretical speaking, if Axl might never be ok "this lifetime" with anything to be released regarding AFD/UYI Guns.....would that really be the main or only reason we fans would never see the so important historical "video-work" you've done for a band which made it to the biggest band worldwide in 1992?
or would you ever consider to release them anyhow if the right offer/time comes? would this even work or are there legal issues you can't overcome without
Axl giving green light?
your work is such an important part for the rock n roll-history!! there arent many (or any!) bands who have people like you documentating the very early days to such an detailed awesome extent!

thank you so much for all your work!!

[Izzy_Stradlin_XX]

Did they film (no videotape) full length shows?

Every UYI tour show was recorded with video and audio. Probably some shows from 87/88 too. The vault's full of gems and amazing stuff by the band, and it really is stupid

that we'll never get to see any of it because of Axl.

I don't know what to believe about every show being recorded. As if that were the case, we probably would have had a much different Live album than what we got with Live Era.

Both Axl and Slash have confirmed this at one point or another. They did infact have a film crew filming the shows, and Robert John kept filming off stage for the said Documentary that never

happened. If you look closely at, say, the Tokyo 1992 DVD and at the Argentina 1992 performance, the shots are the same in every song.

[Padme]

Marc, at the point right now all seems to be on ice and before Axl would be open up to make peace with you and also the AFD era nothing will really change. Knowing Axl's behaviour when he is pissed.....well, it can be a loooooooong time process before this would ever work out some cool.

my question is:

theoretical speaking, if Axl might never be ok "this lifetime" with anything to be released regarding AFD/UYI Guns.....would that really be the main or only reason we fans would never see the so important historical "video-work" you've done for a band which made it to the biggest band worldwide in 1992?

or would you ever consider to release them anyhow if the right offer/time comes? would this even work or are there legal issues you can't overcome without

Axl giving green light?

your work is such an important part for the rock n roll-history!! there arent many (or any!) bands who have people like you documentating the very early days to such an detailed awesome extent!

thank you so much for all your work!!

Unfortunately we need Axl´s green light. Otherwise he is gonna send us his army of lawyers. And not only we´re gonna get everything block. But we ´re gonna get in a lot of trouble. Specially if Axl knows that Slash is cooperating and he is part of the project

[classicrawker]

Did they film (no videotape) full length shows?

Every UYI tour show was recorded with video and audio. Probably some shows from 87/88 too. The vault's full of gems and amazing stuff by the band, and it really is stupid

that we'll never get to see any of it because of Axl.

I don't know what to believe about every show being recorded. As if that were the case, we probably would have had a much different Live album than what we got with Live Era.

Both Axl and Slash have confirmed this at one point or another. They did infact have a film crew filming the shows, and Robert John kept filming off stage for the said Documentary that never

happened. If you look closely at, say, the Tokyo 1992 DVD and at the Argentina 1992 performance, the shots are the same in every song.

Slash has confirmed in several interviews that every UYI show was recorded and videotaped.........

[Snowmass]

Did they film (no videotape) full length shows?

Every UYI tour show was recorded with video and audio. Probably some shows from 87/88 too. The vault's full of gems and amazing stuff by the band, and it really is stupid

that we'll never get to see any of it because of Axl.

I don't know what to believe about every show being recorded. As if that were the case, we probably would have had a much different Live album than what we got with Live Era.

Both Axl and Slash have confirmed this at one point or another. They did infact have a film crew filming the shows, and Robert John kept filming off stage for the said Documentary that never

happened. If you look closely at, say, the Tokyo 1992 DVD and at the Argentina 1992 performance, the shots are the same in every song.

Slash has confirmed in several interviews that every UYI show was recorded and videotaped.........

Which is really frustrating knowing all that footage is in some vault. Why can't Axl just pull his head out...let Duff & Slash go through it and put together some best of Live DVD from that tour?

Edited January 17, 2014 by Snowmass

[Lim666]

thing is -and thats probably the main technical argument for not releasing anything- they hardly did any multitracks (exept maybe Ritz88, Tokyo92 and Paris92) or really film. it more seems that they did some back ups mostly only, meaning:

- stereo DAT soundboard recording "on the fly" from every UYI-show
- video (S)VHS from the stuff shown on the big screens "on the fly" from every UYI show

it would not be professional standards for a release, because nothing can be mixed afterwards. if vocals are too loud or the lead guitar not loud enough....nothing to do. if the videocrew didnt catch the best shots....nothing you can do or mix different.

that being said we all know the leaked Proshots like Indainapoli91, St. Louis92, Chicago92 and Oklahoma92 and the quality is still good enough for us to be pleased. keep in mind we do have leaked copies only, so that the "vault masters" surely look and sound even better, good to be seen on the official videoclips like "Live and let Die", "Dead Horse", "Welcome to the Jungle (Live Era)"....in there are many shots from UYI live shows and the dvd quality looks really really good!