TeeJay410 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 If so, is it any good? And where could I purchase it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 If so, is it any good? And where could I purchase it?The Mobile Fidelity CD remaster is the only one I've ever known of and it's generally pretty expensive. Here's one listed on eBay:http://www.ebay.com/itm/Guns-N-Roses-Appetite-For-Destruction-MFSL-Gold-CD-Excellent-/111272882368?pt=Music_CDs&hash=item19e86170c0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvH Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Yes it has once, by Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab in the nineties. We are lucky that Appetite was originally mastered by a quite respected mastering engeneer, and that it wasn't remastered in a modern way (understand sonically brickwalled). Considering how Barry Diament's original and still in print CD mastering was quite perfect, the difference in price is really not worth it. Stick to your normal CD version. Same for LIES.The gold discs for the UYIs are different beasts, less compressed than the usual CDs, they sound better. Very hard to get for a decent price, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 If only the prices of these remasters were more reasonable. Appetite especially is one I'd kill for. By today's standards it's not horrible - I've definitely heard far thinner sounding albums. Still, it's pretty thin and dry when you crank it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay410 Posted February 10, 2014 Author Share Posted February 10, 2014 If only the prices of these remasters were more reasonable. Appetite especially is one I'd kill for. By today's standards it's not horrible - I've definitely heard far thinner sounding albums. Still, it's pretty thin and dry when you crank it.I mostly hate the reverb and the drum sound. There is a dry mix if Mr brownstone however that sounds terrific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvH Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Nothing to do with the mastering. Which is damn great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nambis Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I remember when they used to sell that Mobile Fidelity CD in Best Buy in the mid-90s for like $29.99. It seems that nobody wanted to buy them for $30 then, it's kind of outrageous those people are asking over a hundred bucks on eBay now. I mean the market sets the worth of something, there are no bids on any of those so clearly they aren't worth as much as they are asking. Personally I wouldn't even pay $5 bucks for a physical CD these days. Hell, I wouldn't even pay $5 for the digital download when the Mobile Fidelity is free on piratebay. I've bought AFD twice, and was scammed for $30 by GNR/UMG when I bought CD vinyl so the last thing I'm giong to do is give more of my hard earned money for a record I already own, twice over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uruguns Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 (edited) It's cool to read Barry Diament giving details about his mastering work on AFD. Not even he can assure that AFD has or hasn't been remastered. Some of his words taken from "stevehoffman.tv" forum:Someone earlier in this thread suggested the CD has not been re-mastered since the original release. I don't know for sure but if that is the case, it suggestes the current CD is sourced from my work.I believe remastering is motivated at least as much and likely considerably more by commercial opportunity than anything else.(I've got gear today that is so much better, I could remaster almost anything I've done and get better quality from it -- assuming the originals are still in good condition.)Best regards,Barry Edited September 10, 2014 by uruguns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I'd love to hear Axls rerecorded version of AFD with Finck n Bucket. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR DOOM Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I'd love to hear Axls rerecorded version of AFD with Finck n Bucket.No Bucket, as I understand it.I think it's Finck, Huge, Stinson, Freese (and Dizzy, making the tea) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggers Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I'd kill for a new remaster. One day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 (edited) That MFSL thing is kicking around on the net. I had it in .flac form for a while for both Appetite and UYI.Not sure if I really noticed. Remaster those damn Illusions albums I feel like they aged worse than Appetite. Edited September 10, 2014 by Ant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I don't know that it needs remastering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndiannaRose Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 It shouldn't be. It's perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I was just listening to it with some good headphones and honestly it sounds fine, the sound quality really has held up pretty well from 1987 to now. A remaster would probably just compress the shit out of everything anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I'd love to hear Axls rerecorded version of AFD with Finck n Bucket.No Bucket, as I understand it.I think it's Finck, Huge, Stinson, Freese (and Dizzy, making the tea)I hope it leaks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
life_247 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Yeah the only thing you'd really do it other than destroy it by brickwalling the mix (which I can do if anyone's really that interested) is properly re-mix it and take the 80s reverb off the drums to power it up a bit.But thankfully Axl is against brick wall mastering as he released CD with full dynamics on it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lim666 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Wait, wait. CD is brickwalled to an extent aswell! Axl chosed the less brickwalled version out of 3, but on some songs it still is!!!AFD, Lies and UYI MFSL CDs are the real deal when it comes to full dynamics and audiophile quality! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnfnrs1972 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Since we are talkin remastering, I have come across demos remastered by Alan Niven such as WTTJ, Heartbreak Hotel, Jumpin Jack Flash, Mama Kin, Move to the City, Nice Boys and the electric version of Your Crazy. All studio quality versions. Have these been out a long time? Never heard any of you mention them before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Diet Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 If only the prices of these remasters were more reasonable. Appetite especially is one I'd kill for. By today's standards it's not horrible - I've definitely heard far thinner sounding albums. Still, it's pretty thin and dry when you crank it.you can download thembtw i don't think any of the classic albums needed any remastering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvH Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Wait, wait. CD is brickwalled to an extent aswell! Axl chosed the less brickwalled version out of 3, but on some songs it still is!!!AFD, Lies and UYI MFSL CDs are the real deal when it comes to full dynamics and audiophile quality!CD is NOT brickwalled. The dynamics are here, no clipping. The mix is indeed very busy, but it's not brickwalled at all. Mastering-wise, ChiDem is perfect.Concerning the MFSLs, while I agree that they are the best CD versions of the UYIs, I think that the standard discs of both Appetite and Lies are better than the MFSL versions. Plus they were mastered by Barry Diament, whose work is highly revered among audiophiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spliff Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 last remastered album i bought was rust in peace.. never again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axl666 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Noughties music is generally mastered a lot worse than music in the 80s. Compare death magnetic to the black album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Nightingale Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 AFD sounds far too 'bright' in my opinion and lacks bass. I always end up changing the bass and treble on my amp. There's a SACD Japanese version of AFD out there, anyone heard that? Is that worth getting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 If only the prices of these remasters were more reasonable. Appetite especially is one I'd kill for. By today's standards it's not horrible - I've definitely heard far thinner sounding albums. Still, it's pretty thin and dry when you crank it.Are you mistaking thin for loud? thin to me would generally mean laking bottom end and a lot of focus on the treble end. When I play Appetite on my ear phones or through a stereo it sounds great, full and it doesn't (most importantly) clip because the levels are mixed/mastered beyond a reasonable level... i.e todays standards, one thing I love about CD is that Axl chose not to go for a loud mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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