Ace Nova Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 (edited) Malaysia Airlines flight to Beijing vanishesMalaysia Airlines said in a statement that flight MH370 had disappeared at 02:40 local time on Saturday (18:40 GMT on Friday) after leaving Kuala Lumpur.It had been expected to land in Beijing at 06:30 (22:30 GMT).Malaysia's transport minister said there was no information on wreckage."We are doing everything in our power to locate the plane," Hishammuddin Hussein told reporters in Kuala Lumpur."Our hope is that the people understand we are being as transparent as we can, we are giving information as quickly as we can, but we want to make sure information has been verified."Malaysia Airlines chief executive Ahmad Jauhari Yahya said the focus was on helping the families of those missing. He said that 80% of the families had been contacted.The plane went off the radar south of Vietnam, according to a statement on the Vietnamese government website.Its last known location was off the country's Ca Mau peninsula although the exact position was not clear, it said.The Boeing B777-200 aircraft was carrying 227 passengers .Malaysia's military said a second wave of helicopters and ships had been despatched after an initial search revealed nothing.Territorial disputes over the South China Sea were set aside temporarily as China dispatched two maritime rescue ships and the Philippines deployed three air force planes and three navy patrol ships.Vietnam also sent aircraft and ships while Vietnamese fishermen in the area were asked to report any suspected sign of the missing plane."In times of emergencies like this, we have to show unity of efforts that transcends boundaries and issues," said Lt Gen Roy Deveraturda, commander of the Philippine military's Western Command.The pilot was Capt Zaharie Ahmad Shah, 53, who joined Malaysia Airlines in 1981, Mr Yahya said.A Vietnamese navy official told the BBC the plane had gone missing within Malaysian maritime territory.Friends and relatives expecting to meet passengers from the flight in Beijing were instructed to go to a nearby hotel where officials were meant to be on hand to provide support."They should have told us something before now," a visibly distressed man in his thirties told AFP news agency at the hotel. Hamid Ramlan Malasyian father of a woman aboard the plane"They are useless," another young man said of the airline. "I don't know why they haven't released any information."In Kuala Lumpur, Hamid Ramlan, a 56-year-old police officer, said his daughter and son-in-law had been on the flight for an intended holiday in Beijing."My wife is crying," he said. "Everyone is sad. My house has become a place of mourning. This is Allah's will. We have to accept it."The plane had been flying at an altitude of 35,000ft (10,700m) and the pilots had not reported any problems with the aircraft, Fuad Sharuji, Malaysian Airlines' vice-president of operations control, told CNN.Malaysia's national carrier is one of Asia's largest, flying nearly 37,000 passengers daily to some 80 destinations worldwide.The route between Kuala Lumpur to Beijing has become more and more popular as Malaysia and China increase trade, says the BBC's Jennifer Pak in Kuala Lumpur.The Boeing 777 had not had a fatal crash in its 20-year history until an Asiana plane came down at San Francisco airport in July of last year. Three teenage girls from China died in that incident.Boeing said in a statement posted on Twitter: "We're closely monitoring reports on Malaysia flight MH370. Our thoughts are with everyone on board."http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-26492748Historically, the Boeing 777 has been one of the safest passenger aircraft ever built, with only 3 fatalities and only a handful of minor accidents in its twenty year history. What I find puzzling is how can we just "lose" an airplane this day in age...especially a jumbo jet the size of a Boeing 777? We have satellite technology that can zoom in on an object the size of an ant but for some reason we can lose touch with a plane that has a wingspan of 200 feet and is close to 250 feet in length? I just don't get it. Edited March 16, 2014 by Kasanova King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lio Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 There were two passengers on board with false (stolen) passports. Possibly a terrorist act ? I think they have found wreckage now, presumably from the plane. Maybe it crashed right after it disappeared from the radar ? I don't know, but it's very scary that such a plane can just go 'missing'... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lithium Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 The false passports point towards terrorism, but it's strange that no organization has taken responsibility yet. It's also strange that they haven't found a wreckage or debris yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Looks like they found some debris.http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-26506961 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lio Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 The false passports point towards terrorism, but it's strange that no organization has taken responsibility yet. It's also strange that they haven't found a wreckage or debris yet.A Vietnamese plane saw debris, but as it is nighttime now, they can't confirm if it is from the Boeing. Yes, you'd think that if it was a terrorist attack, the terrorists would have claimed responsibility by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Nova Posted March 9, 2014 Author Share Posted March 9, 2014 There were two passengers on board with false (stolen) passports. Possibly a terrorist act ? I think they have found wreckage now, presumably from the plane. Maybe it crashed right after it disappeared from the radar ? I don't know, but it's very scary that such a plane can just go 'missing'...The false passports point towards terrorism, but it's strange that no organization has taken responsibility yet. It's also strange that they haven't found a wreckage or debris yet.There's definitely a lot of unanswered questions. And I agree...planes usually do not disintegrate in mid flight. From everything I've read, that's one of the only ways it could just "disappear" like it did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunsguy Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 strange... modern planes dont just vanish, passport issues should not be anything this day and age... no contact, no radio, no beacon... something happened very quick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lithium Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 inb4 ratbrain posts articles blaming zionists and the lizard people 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl_morris Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I'm going to guess a Low Metal Content or a friction sensitive IED.Horrible way to go. I believe they are investigating 4 suspects from the flight. They would need that many to get the parts on board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NGOG Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 The recent attack on the Beijing train station - where 33 people were killed - leads me to believe this is part of the new Xinjiang separatist campaign against China. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Nova Posted March 9, 2014 Author Share Posted March 9, 2014 (edited) inb4 ratbrain posts articles blaming zionists and the lizard peopleThe recent attack on the Beijing train station - where 33 people were killed - leads me to believe this is part of the new Xinjiang separatist campaign against China. Wouldn't they have taken "credit" for it by now? Edited March 9, 2014 by Kasanova King 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 You guys seem to know how to think like terrorists. I called the FBI just to be on the safe side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NGOG Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Wouldn't they have taken "credit" for it by now?Not necessarily. It's common for "terrorist organizations" to gauge public opinion before claiming the act. I don't believe they claimed the train attack either, but they were blamed for it by the authorities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 People on Reddit are speculating that the stolen passports could've been used for human trafficking as opposed to terrorism - apparently that's been an issue on flights before. Not sure what I believe, just pointing that argument out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Nova Posted March 9, 2014 Author Share Posted March 9, 2014 People on Reddit are speculating that the stolen passports could've been used for human trafficking as opposed to terrorism - apparently that's been an issue on flights before. Not sure what I believe, just pointing that argument out.I was thinking something along those lines as well. Stolen passports could be used for a myriad of reasons other than terrorism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 People on Reddit are speculating that the stolen passports could've been used for human trafficking as opposed to terrorism - apparently that's been an issue on flights before. Not sure what I believe, just pointing that argument out.Okay that makes more sense.I am going to say the plane malfunctioned and crashed. We won't know until they find the black box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 inb4 ratbrain posts articles blaming zionists and the lizard people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Nova Posted March 9, 2014 Author Share Posted March 9, 2014 People on Reddit are speculating that the stolen passports could've been used for human trafficking as opposed to terrorism - apparently that's been an issue on flights before. Not sure what I believe, just pointing that argument out.Okay that makes more sense.I am going to say the plane malfunctioned and crashed. We won't know until they find the black box.If something like that happened, they should have known about it. Modern day aircraft should be in constant "technical" communication with the outside world. For it to just "vanish"...means it would have most likely disintegrated in mid air. That's what's so puzzling about this.Didn't something similar happen to a 767 flying over the Atlantic from South America a few years ago? Did they ever figure out what happened to it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NGOG Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 People on Reddit are speculating that the stolen passports could've been used for human trafficking as opposed to terrorism - apparently that's been an issue on flights before. Not sure what I believe, just pointing that argument out.Okay that makes more sense.Why does that make more sense? It's no more plausible than this being a second separatist attack. Either are very possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 People on Reddit are speculating that the stolen passports could've been used for human trafficking as opposed to terrorism - apparently that's been an issue on flights before. Not sure what I believe, just pointing that argument out.Okay that makes more sense.Why does that make more sense? It's no more plausible than this being a second separatist attack. Either are very possible.Well I hope you are right so you can gloat about it. But fake passports does not equal terrorism. But hey if you are right, have yourself a cookie on me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NGOG Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 People on Reddit are speculating that the stolen passports could've been used for human trafficking as opposed to terrorism - apparently that's been an issue on flights before. Not sure what I believe, just pointing that argument out.Okay that makes more sense.Why does that make more sense? It's no more plausible than this being a second separatist attack. Either are very possible.Well I hope you are right so you can gloat about it. But fake passports does not equal terrorism. But hey if you are right, have yourself a cookie on me.Good post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl_morris Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 People on Reddit are speculating that the stolen passports could've been used for human trafficking as opposed to terrorism - apparently that's been an issue on flights before. Not sure what I believe, just pointing that argument out. Okay that makes more sense.I am going to say the plane malfunctioned and crashed. We won't know until they find the black box. If something like that happened, they should have known about it. Modern day aircraft should be in constant "technical" communication with the outside world. For it to just "vanish"...means it would have most likely disintegrated in mid air. That's what's so puzzling about this.Didn't something similar happen to a 767 flying over the Atlantic from South America a few years ago? Did they ever figure out what happened to it?Yeah that flight was bad weather, and the pilot adjustments put the plane into a stall. If this was a weather issue i think we would have heard about it, or suspected it throuh the media but they are hinting terrorism.If its not terrorism i reckon its a feul tank explosion... something very sudden that a pilot couldn't have the breath for a mayday call.However, later is unlikely after the great safety record of the 777. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 The Space Shuttle was suppose to be safe too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl_morris Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 (edited) If not one, but two people can get on a plane with someone elses passport, then what are the standards of their other security procedures? Perhaps it could be airport security going through the motions, untrained or inexperianced body searches, the quality of the metal detectors or baggage scanners...etc I'll start thinking plane malfunction when im explained a good reason why 2 people can get on a plane with wrong passports.....Who bought their tickets together.Why weren't the passports denied when reported missing?...so many questions Edited March 9, 2014 by Axl_morris 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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