AdriftatSea Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 ARQ, something else I want to tell you that I've always told my daughters. Never think you have to be a bitch to get anywhere in this world. Back in the '80's they portrayed women in movies and television that way, the women that made it, they had to be bitches. Not true! Those women that are that way in real life, they fail miserably. Be good to people and you will go far. They should teach that to young women coming out of college now. Servant leadership, that's the way to go. Lead by serving others. My girls finish my sentence now... "If you act as pretty as you look, you'll do alright." Remember that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Len B'stard Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 I think it is true...and its the same for men too, like John Lennon said you have to be a bastard to really make it and we (The Beatles) were the biggest bastards goin'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patience 4 Axl Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 i've always wanted to walk into an interview and ask, "why exactlyshould i even consider working for you?"....That really is a great question, you just turn it around a bit and ask, "Tell me, what do you like about working here?" That's what I asked.Yes, that's a great question. I've also turned around their "where do you see yourself in 10 years" question and ask where they see the company in 10 years. Do they have plans for expansion, what sets them apart from their competitors, what opportunities are offered for growth, etc. As much as you're trying to sell yourself as the best candidate for the job, they should be selling themselves to you as well. It's harder in this current economic climate, but you still need to be assured that the position your looking to fill is going to be beneficial for you as well as them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Len B'stard Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 (edited) i've always wanted to walk into an interview and ask, "why exactlyshould i even consider working for you?"....That really is a great question, you just turn it around a bit and ask, "Tell me, what do you like about working here?" That's what I asked.Yes, that's a great question. I've also turned around their "where do you see yourself in 10 years" question and ask where they see the company in 10 years. Do they have plans for expansion, what sets them apart from their competitors, what opportunities are offered for growth, etc. As much as you're trying to sell yourself as the best candidate for the job, they should be selling themselves to you as well. It's harder in this current economic climate, but you still need to be assured that the position your looking to fill is going to be beneficial for you as well as them. This is the best advice you'll get on this subject in terms of how to conduct yourself and really nail the job down, so many people enter into these sorts of set ups like it's the fuckin' gestapo or something but like, selling yourself to people and fawning are like...two different things. Edited May 17, 2014 by sugaraylen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tater Totts Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 Had an interview regarding that possible promotion yesterday afternoon. Was kind of weird as it was a video interview with a guy in the US office.Don't know how I did but as I left at the end of the day my manager gave me a thumbs up which is a good sign I guess 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Len B'stard Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 Had an interview regarding that possible promotion yesterday afternoon. Was kind of weird as it was a video interview with a guy in the US office.Don't know how I did but as I left at the end of the day my manager gave me a thumbs up which is a good sign I guess Oh nice one skipper! So you off stateside if you make it then or...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tater Totts Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 Had an interview regarding that possible promotion yesterday afternoon. Was kind of weird as it was a video interview with a guy in the US office.Don't know how I did but as I left at the end of the day my manager gave me a thumbs up which is a good sign I guess Oh nice one skipper! So you off stateside if you make it then or...?I wish! Nah, the manager of that particular department is located in our US office but I would still be based out of the UK office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Len B'stard Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 (edited) Had an interview regarding that possible promotion yesterday afternoon. Was kind of weird as it was a video interview with a guy in the US office.Don't know how I did but as I left at the end of the day my manager gave me a thumbs up which is a good sign I guess Oh nice one skipper! So you off stateside if you make it then or...?I wish! Nah, the manager of that particular department is located in our US office but I would still be based out of the UK office.So what you gonna be then? i mean like...from where to where are you going in terms of moving up in position, gonna be the governor of something or...? I can't imagine you giving someone a bollocking, you're too nice Don't take that wrong by the way, I meant it in a good way! Edited May 17, 2014 by sugaraylen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tater Totts Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 Had an interview regarding that possible promotion yesterday afternoon. Was kind of weird as it was a video interview with a guy in the US office.Don't know how I did but as I left at the end of the day my manager gave me a thumbs up which is a good sign I guess Oh nice one skipper! So you off stateside if you make it then or...?I wish! Nah, the manager of that particular department is located in our US office but I would still be based out of the UK office.So what you gonna be then? i mean like...from where to where are you going in terms of moving up in position, gonna be the governor of something or...? I can't imagine you giving someone a bollocking, you're too nice Don't take that wrong by the way, I meant it in a good way!Without going into too much detail I would be moving from the bottom of the totem pole to a role that is far more important and significant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdriftatSea Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 I think it is true...and its the same for men too, like John Lennon said you have to be a bastard to really make it and we (The Beatles) were the biggest bastards goin'.I was only speaking of women. People don't fear ruthless women nor do they want to be on their team. They just want to take them down. Those women may get to a certain level faster than others, but they never stay there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 chicks get pregnant, then get sacked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tater Totts Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Got the offer for the promotion today, got till Friday to decide if I want it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lithium Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Well done, sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sandman Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Are there any particular reasons why you wouldn't want to take it mate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tater Totts Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 (edited) Not really.At the moment I am working for the company as a contractor so I don't get paid holiday, a lunch hour or sick leave and stuff like that. Now I will be a full time member of the company, will get a bit of a pay rise, paid holiday and a paid lunch hour . Edited May 21, 2014 by Tater Totts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sandman Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Hooray! Take it (and run). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnold layne Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Take it easy baby, take it as it comes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Len B'stard Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 (edited) Y'know, i always took that song as a covert admission that Jimbo was crap in bed. Edited May 21, 2014 by sugaraylen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnold layne Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 So now I am essentially drinking and calling people to hire me, and it sucks because I have absolutely nothing to show for it. I don't have anything to offer. I feel so fucking terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Are there any particular reasons why you wouldn't want to take it mate?Might get a better deal by holding out? Last job offer I got I held out until they bumped up the salary by a couple of grand and threw in medical. Sometimes it's worth it to hold out a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GivenToFly Posted May 21, 2014 Author Share Posted May 21, 2014 Just landed at Luton. Interview tomorrow and assessment centre on friday. Shit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sandman Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 (edited) Are there any particular reasons why you wouldn't want to take it mate?Might get a better deal by holding out? Last job offer I got I held out until they bumped up the salary by a couple of grand and threw in medical. Sometimes it's worth it to hold out a little. Doubt it at our stage mate Edited May 21, 2014 by The Sandman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orsys Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 ARQ, I think you have the right idea. Correct me if I'm wrong about what you are thinking... but it's best to go for the job you actually want. If you hold out for the best job for you and don't take the lesser one, that's the job that will take you places, and where you want to be. If you take the lesser job, the 'no where' job, just to 'get by' that's the job you will be stuck in. If you take a job just so you can have a job, and not a career, you will be unhappy. You've put too much into this. Graduating vet school takes, time, effort, dedication and above average intelligence. Don't sell yourself short and take whatever comes along. You may have to struggle financially, but do it. You've come this far. Don't give up now. Keep going and don't settle for just any job. The right job is out there for you. Fight for it. Make it happen.Edit: And somehow, find your way to Texas. This place is booming with jobs. I lost mine last May. My fault, I never went to work because I hated it. I didn't look for a job again. My husband didn't care. Nine months later, someone called me and asked if they could send my resume to another company. I said yes. They interviewed me and then hired me the next week. I'm not a vet, but everyone has a pet in Texas and there are thousands upon thousands of people that aren't in the cities that have ranches full of cattle that need vets. Get to Texas and you will find a job! The economy, certain areas of Texas is good. Not all...But Dallas, Fort Worth, North Houston, Austin - these are good areas. You have to research the areas. The Woodlands. The Woodlands is growing incredibly fast. The Oil Industry is growing. Lots of pets here! Sorry for all the editsI'm actually aiming for Cali, but thanks for the kind words and advice! You've got it right, and particularly as a vet, the first job really can make or break you.So...anyone done a phone interview before? Any tips? I do a lot of phone interviews to save time on the people I want to bring in to interview. You have the benefit of having your internet available to keep company info up, making notes on questions and other things you would like to bring up. The questions are usually to test your knowledge as opposed to whether you would be a good fit for the organization. That would be the in person interview. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orsys Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 I think it's as hard to recruit good people as it is to look for a good job. I have to hire some managers and I have to go through hundreds of resumes and dozens of interviews for each vacancy. Exhausting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axls Rocket Queen Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 ^This scares me I hope it's not gonna be like an exam.It's hard to tell what it's going to be like, I don't know if they usually do phone interviews or if it's just because I'm on a different continent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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