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I was actually thinking of this very subject a few weeks ago,when the song was stuck in my head.

And my conclusion was loco(crazy)motive. Gone off the tracks:bitch done flipped her shit and went crazy. Peel the bitch off my back:always nagging and bitching and always on his case.

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Was Axl really pertaining to a train("My baby gone off the tracks"); or was he cleverly saying Loco(crazy in Spanish) + motive, in other words Crazy Motive, which fits the song as well.

Just wondering...

Fuck, after all these years I'd never thought of that...and it's probably my favourite GNR song.

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Was Axl really pertaining to a train("My baby gone off the tracks"); or was he cleverly saying Loco(crazy in Spanish) + motive, in other words Crazy Motive, which fits the song as well.

Just wondering...

Fuck, after all these years I'd never thought of that...and it's probably my favourite GNR song.

Same here.

ChristmasFnatic, you should post more. You're a great asset to this forum.

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Was Axl really pertaining to a train("My baby gone off the tracks"); or was he cleverly saying Loco(crazy in Spanish) + motive, in other words Crazy Motive, which fits the song as well.

Just wondering...

Fuck, after all these years I'd never thought of that...and it's probably my favourite GNR song.

Hadn't thought of that either...

Anyone know/have any clue why the subtitle for the track is Complicity?

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Locomotive is one of the most intense Guns songs lyrically, vocally, and musically. If you listen to all the different voices he uses in the song, you'll be amazed. The chorus has 4 different voices harmonizing in layers which you can hear if you listen close enough.

As far as the meaning, I would have thought it was obvious. No, he isn't talking about an actual train. He's simply referring to crazy, weird thought patterns. As for "Complicity," the lyrics reference that word in a few places. "Love to me's a two way street and all I really want is peace," and "because you're such a stupid woman and I'm such a stupid man" are two examples. It seems like the song is him bitching about a woman, and it mostly is, but he does concede to certain wrongdoings himself and basically admits that it's a two way street and usually both people are to blame in most relationship failures. "Complicity" just means that one person didn't act alone; that they usually had a partner in the mess who is also responsible. The word typically has negative connotations and you would only use it to describe bad events.

(He's also saying that she thinks it's all his fault but he's quick to point out that he's not to blame, either.)

It's a very intense song.

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Coma, Catcher, TWAT, SCOM, November Rain and Locomotive have some of the best outros of all time. Locomotive takes the ribbon for me though, such ephemeral caramel after one hell of a ride thru a lucid but convoluted dude's stream of consciousness pouring punctuated by an outstanding musical backdrop. Very cathartic.

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Coma, Catcher, TWAT, SCOM, November Rain and Locomotive have some of the best outros of all time. Locomotive takes the ribbon for me though, such ephemeral caramel after one hell of a ride thru a lucid but convoluted dude's stream of consciousness pouring punctuated by an outstanding musical backdrop. Very cathartic.

Il love Double Talkin' Jive Outro too

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Was Axl really pertaining to a train("My baby gone off the tracks"); or was he cleverly saying Loco(crazy in Spanish) + motive, in other words Crazy Motive, which fits the song as well.

Just wondering...

Holy shit Axl KNOWS what will happen to him with CD (look at the italic lines)

Gonna find a way to cure this loneliness

Yeah I'll find a way to cure the pain

If I said that you're my friend

And our love would never end

How long before I had your trust again

I opened up the doors when it was cold outside

Hopin' that you'd find your own way in

But how can I protect you

Or try not to neglect you

When you won't take the love I have to give

I bought me an illusion

An I put it on the wall

I let it fill my head with dreams

And I had to have them all

But oh the taste is never so sweet

As what you'd believe it is-

Well I guess it never is

It's these prejudiced illusions

That pump the blood

To the heart of the biz

You know I never thought

That it could take so long

You know I never knew how to be strong

Yeah, I let you shape me

But I feel as though you raped me

'Cause you climbed inside my world

And in my songs

So now I've closed the door

To keep the cold outside

Seems somehow I've found the will to live

But how can I forget you

Or try not to reject you

When we both know it takes time to forgive

Sweetness is a virtue

And you lost your virtue long ago

You know I'd like to hurt you

But my conscience always tells me no

You could sell your body on the street

To anyone whom you might meet

Who'd love to try and get inside

And bust your innocence open wide

'Cause my baby's got a locomotive

My baby's gone off the track

My baby's got a locomotive

Got ta peel the bitch off my back

I know it looks like I'm insane

Take a closer look I'm not to blame

No

Gonna have some fun with my frustration

Gonna watch the big screen in my head

I'd rather take a detour

'Cause this road ain't gettin' clearer

Your train of thought has cut me off again

Better tame that boy 'cause he's a wild one

Better tame that boy for he's a man

Sweetheart don't make me laugh

You's gettin' too big for your pants

And I's think maybe you should

Cut out while you can

You can use you illusion-

Let it take you where it may

We live and learn

And then sometimes it's best to walk away

Me I'm just here hangin' on

It's my only place to stay at least

For now anyway

I've worked too hard for my illusions

Just to throw them all away

I'm taking time for quiet consolation

In passing by this love that's passed away

I know it's never easy-

So why should you believe me

When I've always got so many things to say

Calling off the dogs a simple choice is made

'Cause playful hearts

Can sometimes be enraged

You know I tried to wake you-

I mean how long could it take you

To open up your eyes and turn the page

Kindness is a treasure-

And it's one towards me you've seldom shown

So I'll say it for good measure

To all the ones like you I've known

Ya know I'd like to shave your head

And all my friends could

paint it red

'Cause love to me's a two way street

An all I really want is peace

But my baby's got a locomotive

My baby's gone off the track

My baby's got a locomotive

Got ta peel the bitch off my back

I know it looks like I'm insane

Take a closer look I'm not to blame

No

Affection is a blessing

Can you find it in your sordid heart

I tried to keep this thing

ta-gether

But the tremor tore my pad apart

Yeah I know it's hard to face

When all we've worked for's gone to waste

But you're such a stupid woman

And I'm such a stupid man

But love like time's got its own plans

'Cause my baby's got a locomotive

My baby's gone off the track

My baby's got a locomotive

Got ta peel the bitch off my back

I know it looks like I'm insane

Take a closer look I'm not to blame

Yeah

If love is blind I guess

I'll buy myself a cane

LOVE'S SO STRANGE

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Locomotive is one of the most intense Guns songs lyrically, vocally, and musically. If you listen to all the different voices he uses in the song, you'll be amazed. The chorus has 4 different voices harmonizing in layers which you can hear if you listen close enough.

As far as the meaning, I would have thought it was obvious. No, he isn't talking about an actual train. He's simply referring to crazy, weird thought patterns. As for "Complicity," the lyrics reference that word in a few places. "Love to me's a two way street and all I really want is peace," and "because you're such a stupid woman and I'm such a stupid man" are two examples. It seems like the song is him bitching about a woman, and it mostly is, but he does concede to certain wrongdoings himself and basically admits that it's a two way street and usually both people are to blame in most relationship failures. "Complicity" just means that one person didn't act alone; that they usually had a partner in the mess who is also responsible. The word typically has negative connotations and you would only use it to describe bad events.

(He's also saying that she thinks it's all his fault but he's quick to point out that he's not to blame, either.)

It's a very intense song.

I have spent years listening to this song and in the chorus i hear 3 different vocal tracks..does anyone else really here a 4th??

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