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RandallFlagg Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 It was surprising he left Frances but not surprising he blew his brains out if you read or absorb Nirvana's material and Kurt's issues over the years, he seemed torn between many conflicts and shades of intensity from mellow to despair. Some of his interviews, he's really sharp and engaging, that side of him is never appreciated, you read his journals and the man's mind was so fucking active beyond a simple power chord rock band - (they were on one level but look beneath the surface at the textures and landscapes of their stuff, it's beautiful music). I do think the theory that the suicide note was a retiring of Nirvana and some parts were manipulated is interesting, the report was that he was far too loaded on heroin to pull the trigger. I also read Stipe from REM said Kurt talked to him about a whole mellow acoustic record he wanted to put out after In Utero. Unplugged seemed to have a funeral feel, that and AIC unplugged were stunning but depressing as fuck whenever you observe them and then stack the performances into a gloomy context. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze Posted July 9, 2014 Author Share Posted July 9, 2014 It was surprising he left Frances but not surprising he blew his brains out if you read or absorb Nirvana's material and Kurt's issues over the years, he seemed torn between many conflicts and shades of intensity from mellow to despair. Some of his interviews, he's really sharp and engaging, that side of him is never appreciated, you read his journals and the man's mind was so fucking active beyond a simple power chord rock band - (they were on one level but look beneath the surface at the textures and landscapes of their stuff, it's beautiful music). I do think the theory that the suicide note was a retiring of Nirvana and some parts were manipulated is interesting, the report was that he was far too loaded on heroin to pull the trigger. I also read Stipe from REM said Kurt talked to him about a whole mellow acoustic record he wanted to put out after In Utero. Unplugged seemed to have a funeral feel, that and AIC unplugged were stunning but depressing as fuck whenever you observe them and then stack the performances into a gloomy context.i honestly think the man was killed. call me a conspiracy theorist, but there is a lot of evidence the makes it seem like more then a simple suicide 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangoSkank Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 It was surprising he left Frances but not surprising he blew his brains out if you read or absorb Nirvana's material and Kurt's issues over the years, he seemed torn between many conflicts and shades of intensity from mellow to despair. Some of his interviews, he's really sharp and engaging, that side of him is never appreciated, you read his journals and the man's mind was so fucking active beyond a simple power chord rock band - (they were on one level but look beneath the surface at the textures and landscapes of their stuff, it's beautiful music). I do think the theory that the suicide note was a retiring of Nirvana and some parts were manipulated is interesting, the report was that he was far too loaded on heroin to pull the trigger. I also read Stipe from REM said Kurt talked to him about a whole mellow acoustic record he wanted to put out after In Utero. Unplugged seemed to have a funeral feel, that and AIC unplugged were stunning but depressing as fuck whenever you observe them and then stack the performances into a gloomy context.i honestly think the man was killed. call me a conspiracy theorist, but there is a lot of evidence the makes it seem like more then a simple suicideThis whole subject is so interesting. I'm of two complete minds with it. There's a mountain of hearsay and rumors that there were other people involved, but I wonder why the police who were assigned to the case wouldn't examine it further once the coroner saw that it was impossible for him to pull the trigger with that much heroin in him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze Posted July 9, 2014 Author Share Posted July 9, 2014 It was surprising he left Frances but not surprising he blew his brains out if you read or absorb Nirvana's material and Kurt's issues over the years, he seemed torn between many conflicts and shades of intensity from mellow to despair. Some of his interviews, he's really sharp and engaging, that side of him is never appreciated, you read his journals and the man's mind was so fucking active beyond a simple power chord rock band - (they were on one level but look beneath the surface at the textures and landscapes of their stuff, it's beautiful music). I do think the theory that the suicide note was a retiring of Nirvana and some parts were manipulated is interesting, the report was that he was far too loaded on heroin to pull the trigger. I also read Stipe from REM said Kurt talked to him about a whole mellow acoustic record he wanted to put out after In Utero. Unplugged seemed to have a funeral feel, that and AIC unplugged were stunning but depressing as fuck whenever you observe them and then stack the performances into a gloomy context.i honestly think the man was killed. call me a conspiracy theorist, but there is a lot of evidence the makes it seem like more then a simple suicide This whole subject is so interesting. I'm of two complete minds with it. There's a mountain of hearsay and rumors that there were other people involved, but I wonder why the police who were assigned to the case wouldn't examine it further once the coroner saw that it was impossible for him to pull the trigger with that much heroin in him. I think that theory has actually been debunked. I dont know how true this is but theyve run tests and proved that there was a small area of time where he could have killed himself before the heroin kicked im. But to me, why shoot up if youre gunna blow your brains out? "One last high"?? I throw that theory out the window. There was another study done (and i dont have the source for it) that says that almost 95% of suicides are on the fly. But yet in the book heavier then heaven, the author describes cobains final days as these very somber moments to himself and crazy shit, and it almost seems to me like the time he needed. To me though its the perfect murder. In heavier then heaven, the author says he was in his room listening to his favorite album before he killed himself. Why not then? That would have been the perfect time. According to police reports the album was still playing when they arrived, so it almost seems as if he was taken... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superloconoriega Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 If you know anything about Nirvana or Kurt Cobain's final days you know there's no doubt the guy killed himself. He actually OD several times at dealers houses on his last week alive and tried commiting suicide a month before in Rome.It was surprising he left Frances but not surprising he blew his brains out if you read or absorb Nirvana's material and Kurt's issues over the years, he seemed torn between many conflicts and shades of intensity from mellow to despair. Some of his interviews, he's really sharp and engaging, that side of him is never appreciated, you read his journals and the man's mind was so fucking active beyond a simple power chord rock band - (they were on one level but look beneath the surface at the textures and landscapes of their stuff, it's beautiful music). I do think the theory that the suicide note was a retiring of Nirvana and some parts were manipulated is interesting, the report was that he was far too loaded on heroin to pull the trigger. I also read Stipe from REM said Kurt talked to him about a whole mellow acoustic record he wanted to put out after In Utero. Unplugged seemed to have a funeral feel, that and AIC unplugged were stunning but depressing as fuck whenever you observe them and then stack the performances into a gloomy context.i honestly think the man was killed. call me a conspiracy theorist, but there is a lot of evidence the makes it seem like more then a simple suicideThis whole subject is so interesting. I'm of two complete minds with it. There's a mountain of hearsay and rumors that there were other people involved, but I wonder why the police who were assigned to the case wouldn't examine it further once the coroner saw that it was impossible for him to pull the trigger with that much heroin in him. I think that theory has actually been debunked. I dont know how true this is but theyve run tests and proved that there was a small area of time where he could have killed himself before the heroin kicked im. But to me, why shoot up if youre gunna blow your brains out? "One last high"?? I throw that theory out the window. There was another study done (and i dont have the source for it) that says that almost 95% of suicides are on the fly. But yet in the book heavier then heaven, the author describes cobains final days as these very somber moments to himself and crazy shit, and it almost seems to me like the time he needed. To me though its the perfect murder. In heavier then heaven, the author says he was in his room listening to his favorite album before he killed himself. Why not then? That would have been the perfect time. According to police reports the album was still playing when they arrived, so it almost seems as if he was taken...the album was R.E.M.'s automatic for the people and it was not still playing when they arrived, the album was just still on the cd player. They found the body a few days after he killed himself , according to the autopsy report. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze Posted July 9, 2014 Author Share Posted July 9, 2014 If you know anything about Nirvana or Kurt Cobain's final days you know there's no doubt the guy killed himself. He actually OD several times at dealers houses on his last week alive and tried commiting suicide a month before in Rome.It was surprising he left Frances but not surprising he blew his brains out if you read or absorb Nirvana's material and Kurt's issues over the years, he seemed torn between many conflicts and shades of intensity from mellow to despair. Some of his interviews, he's really sharp and engaging, that side of him is never appreciated, you read his journals and the man's mind was so fucking active beyond a simple power chord rock band - (they were on one level but look beneath the surface at the textures and landscapes of their stuff, it's beautiful music). I do think the theory that the suicide note was a retiring of Nirvana and some parts were manipulated is interesting, the report was that he was far too loaded on heroin to pull the trigger. I also read Stipe from REM said Kurt talked to him about a whole mellow acoustic record he wanted to put out after In Utero. Unplugged seemed to have a funeral feel, that and AIC unplugged were stunning but depressing as fuck whenever you observe them and then stack the performances into a gloomy context.i honestly think the man was killed. call me a conspiracy theorist, but there is a lot of evidence the makes it seem like more then a simple suicide This whole subject is so interesting. I'm of two complete minds with it. There's a mountain of hearsay and rumors that there were other people involved, but I wonder why the police who were assigned to the case wouldn't examine it further once the coroner saw that it was impossible for him to pull the trigger with that much heroin in him. I think that theory has actually been debunked. I dont know how true this is but theyve run tests and proved that there was a small area of time where he could have killed himself before the heroin kicked im. But to me, why shoot up if youre gunna blow your brains out? "One last high"?? I throw that theory out the window. There was another study done (and i dont have the source for it) that says that almost 95% of suicides are on the fly. But yet in the book heavier then heaven, the author describes cobains final days as these very somber moments to himself and crazy shit, and it almost seems to me like the time he needed. To me though its the perfect murder. In heavier then heaven, the author says he was in his room listening to his favorite album before he killed himself. Why not then? That would have been the perfect time. According to police reports the album was still playing when they arrived, so it almost seems as if he was taken...the album was R.E.M.'s automatic for the people and it was not still playing when they arrived, the album was just still on the cd player. They found the body a few days after he killed himself , according to the autopsy report.sorry i haven't read the book in awhile, but i can't bring myself to just settle on the fact that cobain blows his head off and then the whole thing isn't looked into? with all the evidence, i just can't see it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangoSkank Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 If you know anything about Nirvana or Kurt Cobain's final days you know there's no doubt the guy killed himself. He actually OD several times at dealers houses on his last week alive and tried commiting suicide a month before in Rome.It was surprising he left Frances but not surprising he blew his brains out if you read or absorb Nirvana's material and Kurt's issues over the years, he seemed torn between many conflicts and shades of intensity from mellow to despair. Some of his interviews, he's really sharp and engaging, that side of him is never appreciated, you read his journals and the man's mind was so fucking active beyond a simple power chord rock band - (they were on one level but look beneath the surface at the textures and landscapes of their stuff, it's beautiful music). I do think the theory that the suicide note was a retiring of Nirvana and some parts were manipulated is interesting, the report was that he was far too loaded on heroin to pull the trigger. I also read Stipe from REM said Kurt talked to him about a whole mellow acoustic record he wanted to put out after In Utero. Unplugged seemed to have a funeral feel, that and AIC unplugged were stunning but depressing as fuck whenever you observe them and then stack the performances into a gloomy context.i honestly think the man was killed. call me a conspiracy theorist, but there is a lot of evidence the makes it seem like more then a simple suicide This whole subject is so interesting. I'm of two complete minds with it. There's a mountain of hearsay and rumors that there were other people involved, but I wonder why the police who were assigned to the case wouldn't examine it further once the coroner saw that it was impossible for him to pull the trigger with that much heroin in him. I think that theory has actually been debunked. I dont know how true this is but theyve run tests and proved that there was a small area of time where he could have killed himself before the heroin kicked im. But to me, why shoot up if youre gunna blow your brains out? "One last high"?? I throw that theory out the window. There was another study done (and i dont have the source for it) that says that almost 95% of suicides are on the fly. But yet in the book heavier then heaven, the author describes cobains final days as these very somber moments to himself and crazy shit, and it almost seems to me like the time he needed. To me though its the perfect murder. In heavier then heaven, the author says he was in his room listening to his favorite album before he killed himself. Why not then? That would have been the perfect time. According to police reports the album was still playing when they arrived, so it almost seems as if he was taken...the album was R.E.M.'s automatic for the people and it was not still playing when they arrived, the album was just still on the cd player. They found the body a few days after he killed himself , according to the autopsy report.sorry i haven't read the book in awhile, but i can't bring myself to just settle on the fact that cobain blows his head off and then the whole thing isn't looked into? with all the evidence, i just can't see it..The documentary "Kurt & Courtney" is worth seeing too. Again, not sure how much of it I can get behind, but it's compelling if nothing else. One of the highlights being the filmmakers speaking to a man who claims Courtney offered him $50,000 to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze Posted July 9, 2014 Author Share Posted July 9, 2014 If you know anything about Nirvana or Kurt Cobain's final days you know there's no doubt the guy killed himself. He actually OD several times at dealers houses on his last week alive and tried commiting suicide a month before in Rome.It was surprising he left Frances but not surprising he blew his brains out if you read or absorb Nirvana's material and Kurt's issues over the years, he seemed torn between many conflicts and shades of intensity from mellow to despair. Some of his interviews, he's really sharp and engaging, that side of him is never appreciated, you read his journals and the man's mind was so fucking active beyond a simple power chord rock band - (they were on one level but look beneath the surface at the textures and landscapes of their stuff, it's beautiful music). I do think the theory that the suicide note was a retiring of Nirvana and some parts were manipulated is interesting, the report was that he was far too loaded on heroin to pull the trigger. I also read Stipe from REM said Kurt talked to him about a whole mellow acoustic record he wanted to put out after In Utero. Unplugged seemed to have a funeral feel, that and AIC unplugged were stunning but depressing as fuck whenever you observe them and then stack the performances into a gloomy context.i honestly think the man was killed. call me a conspiracy theorist, but there is a lot of evidence the makes it seem like more then a simple suicide This whole subject is so interesting. I'm of two complete minds with it. There's a mountain of hearsay and rumors that there were other people involved, but I wonder why the police who were assigned to the case wouldn't examine it further once the coroner saw that it was impossible for him to pull the trigger with that much heroin in him. I think that theory has actually been debunked. I dont know how true this is but theyve run tests and proved that there was a small area of time where he could have killed himself before the heroin kicked im. But to me, why shoot up if youre gunna blow your brains out? "One last high"?? I throw that theory out the window. There was another study done (and i dont have the source for it) that says that almost 95% of suicides are on the fly. But yet in the book heavier then heaven, the author describes cobains final days as these very somber moments to himself and crazy shit, and it almost seems to me like the time he needed. To me though its the perfect murder. In heavier then heaven, the author says he was in his room listening to his favorite album before he killed himself. Why not then? That would have been the perfect time. According to police reports the album was still playing when they arrived, so it almost seems as if he was taken...the album was R.E.M.'s automatic for the people and it was not still playing when they arrived, the album was just still on the cd player. They found the body a few days after he killed himself , according to the autopsy report.sorry i haven't read the book in awhile, but i can't bring myself to just settle on the fact that cobain blows his head off and then the whole thing isn't looked into? with all the evidence, i just can't see it..The documentary "Kurt & Courtney" is worth seeing too. Again, not sure how much of it I can get behind, but it's compelling if nothing else. One of the highlights being the filmmakers speaking to a man who claims Courtney offered him $50,000 to do it.yeah that was pretty funny, then he slips up and even says the guys name and goes "well ill let the FBI or whoever deal with that" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangoSkank Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 If you know anything about Nirvana or Kurt Cobain's final days you know there's no doubt the guy killed himself. He actually OD several times at dealers houses on his last week alive and tried commiting suicide a month before in Rome.It was surprising he left Frances but not surprising he blew his brains out if you read or absorb Nirvana's material and Kurt's issues over the years, he seemed torn between many conflicts and shades of intensity from mellow to despair. Some of his interviews, he's really sharp and engaging, that side of him is never appreciated, you read his journals and the man's mind was so fucking active beyond a simple power chord rock band - (they were on one level but look beneath the surface at the textures and landscapes of their stuff, it's beautiful music). I do think the theory that the suicide note was a retiring of Nirvana and some parts were manipulated is interesting, the report was that he was far too loaded on heroin to pull the trigger. I also read Stipe from REM said Kurt talked to him about a whole mellow acoustic record he wanted to put out after In Utero. Unplugged seemed to have a funeral feel, that and AIC unplugged were stunning but depressing as fuck whenever you observe them and then stack the performances into a gloomy context.i honestly think the man was killed. call me a conspiracy theorist, but there is a lot of evidence the makes it seem like more then a simple suicide This whole subject is so interesting. I'm of two complete minds with it. There's a mountain of hearsay and rumors that there were other people involved, but I wonder why the police who were assigned to the case wouldn't examine it further once the coroner saw that it was impossible for him to pull the trigger with that much heroin in him. I think that theory has actually been debunked. I dont know how true this is but theyve run tests and proved that there was a small area of time where he could have killed himself before the heroin kicked im. But to me, why shoot up if youre gunna blow your brains out? "One last high"?? I throw that theory out the window. There was another study done (and i dont have the source for it) that says that almost 95% of suicides are on the fly. But yet in the book heavier then heaven, the author describes cobains final days as these very somber moments to himself and crazy shit, and it almost seems to me like the time he needed. To me though its the perfect murder. In heavier then heaven, the author says he was in his room listening to his favorite album before he killed himself. Why not then? That would have been the perfect time. According to police reports the album was still playing when they arrived, so it almost seems as if he was taken...the album was R.E.M.'s automatic for the people and it was not still playing when they arrived, the album was just still on the cd player. They found the body a few days after he killed himself , according to the autopsy report.sorry i haven't read the book in awhile, but i can't bring myself to just settle on the fact that cobain blows his head off and then the whole thing isn't looked into? with all the evidence, i just can't see it..The documentary "Kurt & Courtney" is worth seeing too. Again, not sure how much of it I can get behind, but it's compelling if nothing else. One of the highlights being the filmmakers speaking to a man who claims Courtney offered him $50,000 to do it.yeah that was pretty funny, then he slips up and even says the guys name and goes "well ill let the FBI or whoever deal with that" And is then mysteriously hit by a train two days later. so ridic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze Posted July 9, 2014 Author Share Posted July 9, 2014 If you know anything about Nirvana or Kurt Cobain's final days you know there's no doubt the guy killed himself. He actually OD several times at dealers houses on his last week alive and tried commiting suicide a month before in Rome.It was surprising he left Frances but not surprising he blew his brains out if you read or absorb Nirvana's material and Kurt's issues over the years, he seemed torn between many conflicts and shades of intensity from mellow to despair. Some of his interviews, he's really sharp and engaging, that side of him is never appreciated, you read his journals and the man's mind was so fucking active beyond a simple power chord rock band - (they were on one level but look beneath the surface at the textures and landscapes of their stuff, it's beautiful music). I do think the theory that the suicide note was a retiring of Nirvana and some parts were manipulated is interesting, the report was that he was far too loaded on heroin to pull the trigger. I also read Stipe from REM said Kurt talked to him about a whole mellow acoustic record he wanted to put out after In Utero. Unplugged seemed to have a funeral feel, that and AIC unplugged were stunning but depressing as fuck whenever you observe them and then stack the performances into a gloomy context.i honestly think the man was killed. call me a conspiracy theorist, but there is a lot of evidence the makes it seem like more then a simple suicide This whole subject is so interesting. I'm of two complete minds with it. There's a mountain of hearsay and rumors that there were other people involved, but I wonder why the police who were assigned to the case wouldn't examine it further once the coroner saw that it was impossible for him to pull the trigger with that much heroin in him. I think that theory has actually been debunked. I dont know how true this is but theyve run tests and proved that there was a small area of time where he could have killed himself before the heroin kicked im. But to me, why shoot up if youre gunna blow your brains out? "One last high"?? I throw that theory out the window. There was another study done (and i dont have the source for it) that says that almost 95% of suicides are on the fly. But yet in the book heavier then heaven, the author describes cobains final days as these very somber moments to himself and crazy shit, and it almost seems to me like the time he needed. To me though its the perfect murder. In heavier then heaven, the author says he was in his room listening to his favorite album before he killed himself. Why not then? That would have been the perfect time. According to police reports the album was still playing when they arrived, so it almost seems as if he was taken...the album was R.E.M.'s automatic for the people and it was not still playing when they arrived, the album was just still on the cd player. They found the body a few days after he killed himself , according to the autopsy report.sorry i haven't read the book in awhile, but i can't bring myself to just settle on the fact that cobain blows his head off and then the whole thing isn't looked into? with all the evidence, i just can't see it..The documentary "Kurt & Courtney" is worth seeing too. Again, not sure how much of it I can get behind, but it's compelling if nothing else. One of the highlights being the filmmakers speaking to a man who claims Courtney offered him $50,000 to do it.yeah that was pretty funny, then he slips up and even says the guys name and goes "well ill let the FBI or whoever deal with that" And is then mysteriously hit by a train two days later. so ridic.yeah dude, it just seems like the perfect murder to me. fuck, even Courtney was making private investigators look for him. as long as she could pretend like she was keeping eyes on him, she would be seen as the good guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superloconoriega Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 The police actually spent way more time on the investigation than any other case like this (where with the autopsy analysis its obvious it was a suicide). Due to the increase in public interest due to the 20 anniversary of the sucide, the Seattle police department released more photos of the scene, and a policeman that was involved on the investigation repeated this fact.And dont look that much into the Broomfield documentary. Yes, it is interesting, but when you're dealing with Courtney Love things are never what they appear to be. Plus, the whole point of that movie is to portray Courtney as someone who hides the truth from the media and threatens journalist, but (as mentioned briefly in the film) both Kurt Cobain and Dave Grohl made threats to a journalist who was supposed to release a "tell all" Nirvana book (without reading an advance first). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidcock27 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 The police actually spent way more time on the investigation than any other case like this (where with the autopsy analysis its obvious it was a suicide). Due to the increase in public interest due to the 20 anniversary of the sucide, the Seattle police department released more photos of the scene, and a policeman that was involved on the investigation repeated this fact.And dont look that much into the Broomfield documentary. Yes, it is interesting, but when you're dealing with Courtney Love things are never what they appear to be. Plus, the whole point of that movie is to portray Courtney as someone who hides the truth from the media and threatens journalist, but (as mentioned briefly in the film) both Kurt Cobain and Dave Grohl made threats to a journalist who was supposed to release a "tell all" Nirvana book (without reading an advance first).i dont understand how they spent more time on the investigation if as soon s they walked through the door and saw the scene without properly investigating ruled it a suicide. I'm not saying he was killed but I definitely don't agree that they spent a long time on the investigation. also the photos they released were only developed in these past few years, and it goes that every photo you don't develop you pay a 500 fine everyday until it is developed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Ernie Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 I really can't believe that people actually think he didn't kill himself.If you were around and followed the band back then you would know that everyones response was "He finally did it."He shot himself, in the head, while high on heroin. He may have had a lot of heroin in his system, but he also was know to to DO A LOT OF HEROIN. You tend to build up a tolerance when you do that.It's kind of like 9/11 conspirators. They find evidence because they want it to be evidence. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnold layne Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 What's done is done. If you watched his Netflix tape, or his interview, you'd realize he was a massive depressive. He wasn't happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 I really wonder what that "mellow acoustic record" would've been like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnold layne Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 If ifs and butswere candy and nutswe'd all have a merry christmas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Diet Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 It was surprising he left Frances but not surprising he blew his brains out if you read or absorb Nirvana's material and Kurt's issues over the years, he seemed torn between many conflicts and shades of intensity from mellow to despair. Some of his interviews, he's really sharp and engaging, that side of him is never appreciated, you read his journals and the man's mind was so fucking active beyond a simple power chord rock band - (they were on one level but look beneath the surface at the textures and landscapes of their stuff, it's beautiful music). I do think the theory that the suicide note was a retiring of Nirvana and some parts were manipulated is interesting, the report was that he was far too loaded on heroin to pull the trigger. I also read Stipe from REM said Kurt talked to him about a whole mellow acoustic record he wanted to put out after In Utero. Unplugged seemed to have a funeral feel, that and AIC unplugged were stunning but depressing as fuck whenever you observe them and then stack the performances into a gloomy context.i honestly think the man was killed. call me a conspiracy theorist, but there is a lot of evidence the makes it seem like more then a simple suicidePhotos of his dead body leaked, and this was a suicide (i'm not going to link here, because of the forum rules, though)No point killing him. Not a single fucking evidence came up since 20 yearsAlso this is old story as fuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young_Gun Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 (edited) It's kind of like 9/11 conspirators. They find evidence because they want it to be evidence.Like 2 buildings collapsing at free-fall speed as if it had no resistance whatsoever. Yeh... Didn't look like a controlled demolition or anything... Or how WTC7 collapsed(also at free-fall speed) without being hit by anything at all. Yeh.... Edited July 10, 2014 by Young_Gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superloconoriega Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 I really wonder what that "mellow acoustic record" would've been likeprobably not that different from In Utero, considering "You know you're right" and his last compositions (do-re-mi, etc) all were in the same alt. rock vein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze Posted July 10, 2014 Author Share Posted July 10, 2014 It was surprising he left Frances but not surprising he blew his brains out if you read or absorb Nirvana's material and Kurt's issues over the years, he seemed torn between many conflicts and shades of intensity from mellow to despair. Some of his interviews, he's really sharp and engaging, that side of him is never appreciated, you read his journals and the man's mind was so fucking active beyond a simple power chord rock band - (they were on one level but look beneath the surface at the textures and landscapes of their stuff, it's beautiful music). I do think the theory that the suicide note was a retiring of Nirvana and some parts were manipulated is interesting, the report was that he was far too loaded on heroin to pull the trigger. I also read Stipe from REM said Kurt talked to him about a whole mellow acoustic record he wanted to put out after In Utero. Unplugged seemed to have a funeral feel, that and AIC unplugged were stunning but depressing as fuck whenever you observe them and then stack the performances into a gloomy context.i honestly think the man was killed. call me a conspiracy theorist, but there is a lot of evidence the makes it seem like more then a simple suicidePhotos of his dead body leaked, and this was a suicide (i'm not going to link here, because of the forum rules, though)No point killing him. Not a single fucking evidence came up since 20 yearsAlso this is old story as fuck oh there was a reason for court to kill him though. he divorces her? she gets nothing. he dies? she gets it all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze Posted July 10, 2014 Author Share Posted July 10, 2014 (edited) I really can't believe that people actually think he didn't kill himself.If you were around and followed the band back then you would know that everyones response was "He finally did it."He shot himself, in the head, while high on heroin. He may have had a lot of heroin in his system, but he also was know to to DO A LOT OF HEROIN. You tend to build up a tolerance when you do that.It's kind of like 9/11 conspirators. They find evidence because they want it to be evidence.Well what about evidence from a man who was there himself? Yes I'm talking about Tom Grant and his investigations. Now people can say what they say and say Tom is jealous because he's not credited with anything related to Kurt cobain so he's obsessed with cracking this case, but if that's the case, and as Tom repeatedly asks to the general concencious that knows about his work, why hasn't Love sued the all mighty butt fuck out of him? Maybe it's because he has to much evidence to prove she's a piece of shit, or maybe it's because Courtney turned the other cheek and was the better man.... Phahahaha like we're support to believe that? The same women who just last week said her husband was a liar. Right. And look, I'm not saying he was murdered even though I'm making it out to be that way. I'm just looking at it from the outside in. Edited July 10, 2014 by jeaubear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 I think at the very least Courtney wasn't making Kurts life easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Ernie Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 It's kind of like 9/11 conspirators. They find evidence because they want it to be evidence.Like 2 buildings collapsing at free-fall speed as if it had no resistance whatsoever. Yeh... Didn't look like a controlled demolition or anything... Or how WTC7 collapsed(also at free-fall speed) without being hit by anything at all. Yeh....See? This is what I'm talking about.I bet this guy thinks the Sandy Hook shootings or The Holocaust didn't happen either.I really can't believe that people actually think he didn't kill himself.If you were around and followed the band back then you would know that everyones response was "He finally did it."He shot himself, in the head, while high on heroin. He may have had a lot of heroin in his system, but he also was know to to DO A LOT OF HEROIN. You tend to build up a tolerance when you do that.It's kind of like 9/11 conspirators. They find evidence because they want it to be evidence.Well what about evidence from a man who was there himself? Yes I'm talking about Tom Grant and his investigations. Now people can say what they say and say Tom is jealous because he's not credited with anything related to Kurt cobain so he's obsessed with cracking this case, but if that's the case, and as Tom repeatedly asks to the general concencious that knows about his work, why hasn't Love sued the all mighty butt fuck out of him? Maybe it's because he has to much evidence to prove she's a piece of shit, or maybe it's because Courtney turned the other cheek and was the better man.... Phahahaha like we're support to believe that? The same women who just last week said her husband was a liar. Right. And look, I'm not saying he was murdered even though I'm making it out to be that way. I'm just looking at it from the outside in.Great evidence.She's not suing him? He MUST have been murdered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young_Gun Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 It's kind of like 9/11 conspirators. They find evidence because they want it to be evidence.Like 2 buildings collapsing at free-fall speed as if it had no resistance whatsoever. Yeh... Didn't look like a controlled demolition or anything... Or how WTC7 collapsed(also at free-fall speed) without being hit by anything at all. Yeh....See? This is what I'm talking about.I bet this guy thinks the Sandy Hook shootings or The Holocaust didn't happen either.I really can't believe that people actually think he didn't kill himself.If you were around and followed the band back then you would know that everyones response was "He finally did it."He shot himself, in the head, while high on heroin. He may have had a lot of heroin in his system, but he also was know to to DO A LOT OF HEROIN. You tend to build up a tolerance when you do that.It's kind of like 9/11 conspirators. They find evidence because they want it to be evidence.Well what about evidence from a man who was there himself? Yes I'm talking about Tom Grant and his investigations. Now people can say what they say and say Tom is jealous because he's not credited with anything related to Kurt cobain so he's obsessed with cracking this case, but if that's the case, and as Tom repeatedly asks to the general concencious that knows about his work, why hasn't Love sued the all mighty butt fuck out of him? Maybe it's because he has to much evidence to prove she's a piece of shit, or maybe it's because Courtney turned the other cheek and was the better man.... Phahahaha like we're support to believe that? The same women who just last week said her husband was a liar. Right. And look, I'm not saying he was murdered even though I'm making it out to be that way. I'm just looking at it from the outside in.Great evidence.She's not suing him? He MUST have been murdered.I don't deny the Holocaust occurred or the Sandy Hook shootings. But how can 3 buildings fall at free-fall speed with no resistance to itself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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