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As a die-hard GnR fan since 87, it's with disullusionment I see what is happening. It's been a sad state of affairs since 2011, with a couple of exeptions - old songs played again.

As I am always hoping for something great to happen, what is more likely: Reunion or new music? Or....same old touring for a few more years before retirement...?

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The way I see it:

Reunion will never happen.

New music will be released sooner or later.

Expect a shitload of touring to take place. It's where the money's at, and Axl will be 60 in a few years. If I had to guess, I'd say he'll release CD ll in 2 or 3 years, and then attempt to tour behind it while he still can.

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The way I see it:

Reunion will never happen.

New music will be released sooner or later.

Expect a shitload of touring to take place. It's where the money's at, and Axl will be 60 in a few years. If I had to guess, I'd say he'll release CD ll in 2 or 3 years, and then attempt to tour behind it while he still can.

That sounds realistic to me. Must be frustrating for Axl that so many fans think that the band would be exactly the same as it was in the 80's if only the original members were still around. That's obviously not the case. Not like Duff did yoga in the 80's.

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Reunion.

Axl is too afraid to put out music. I firmly believe we only have CD because the label forced it to be released and I doubt they'll go through all this again to release a very uncommercial album. If they need GnR money again, they'll release a GH. That's easy money. An album consisting of Silkworms and Going Down? With no promotion from Axl? Having to deal with TB? Eeehhh...

I'm not saying a reunion will happen. I'm just saying that a reunion seems less impossible. With Duff being this middle man between Ax and Salsh, Ron possibly leaving, NuGNR at its all time low. Maybe money will ease Axl's hatred up a little.

My preference would be a new album but we need to know how interested the label is in it to actually force its release once again. Axl will never do it on his own.

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Sadly, I anticipate endless touring with increasingly shitty lineups and maybe the Cd leftovers.

Axl's GNR is (in my opinion) dead in the water since Robin left, a reunion is the dream scenario but I have no faith in Axl manning up and allowing that to happen unless he is broke.

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Too late. GNR's already dead.

Every now and then, Axl trots out the bloated re-animated corpse for some easy money from South America.....

But the final nail in the coffin of the sllooooooooow death that started back at the VMAs in 2002 was when Axl no-showed at the HOF. There's simply no excuse for that and no wy to ever make up for it.

He can barely sing. Listen to AFDemocracy....it's PAINFUL.

Everyone that's ever had any desire to see Axl live has seen him by now. I sure as shit am not spending any more money to see him barely wheeze out the Greatest Hits while taking extensive breaks so his session musicians can "jam" and do solos.

New music? There is no new music. There never will be any more music. Even if Axl actually WANTED to record something (ha!) he can't.....he can't even sing anymore.

GNR has been dead a long time. At some point, Axl will play his last show, either in Brazil or Vegas, and that'll be it. No fanfare. No announcement. Just quietly fade back into obscurity and then die.

Who knows? Maybe he's already played his last show. Not like he NEEDS the money. He can just sit back and eat, bang models, and do drugs til he croaks. Not a bad way to go out actually.

Beautiful. Very good post.

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I'm actually kind of shocked that the label hasn't gone after Axl for breach of contract, or something or the other. It's my understanding that GN'R is still under contract to produce more album(s). (I've yet to get a clear answer from anybody showing how much music GN'R still owes the label). If they ever decide to, I imagine we'll just get GHII, instead of CDII, like ProstituteComa said.

Even at that, new music is more likely to happen, whether in the form of leaks or if Ax actually releases new stuff through the label. The grudge with Slash will go to the grave, and he's made that clear in actions and in words. With new music, Axl has kinda made that clear with actions, but has definitely left the door open with his words, and lack thereof.

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Another topic about this??? :blink:

I hear this complaint, but there's just absolutely nothing else to talk about. <_<

When I first joined around 2 years ago there was a bit more going on (European tour) but even during the quieter periods we had a lot more retro discussions. Seems like everyone finally got bored of debating old stuff too.

Looking on the bright side it will probably pick up a little as winter draws in and people spend more time indoors.

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Too late. GNR's already dead.

Every now and then, Axl trots out the bloated re-animated corpse for some easy money from South America.....

But the final nail in the coffin of the sllooooooooow death that started back at the VMAs in 2002 was when Axl no-showed at the HOF. There's simply no excuse for that and no wy to ever make up for it.

He can barely sing. Listen to AFDemocracy....it's PAINFUL.

Everyone that's ever had any desire to see Axl live has seen him by now. I sure as shit am not spending any more money to see him barely wheeze out the Greatest Hits while taking extensive breaks so his session musicians can "jam" and do solos.

New music? There is no new music. There never will be any more music. Even if Axl actually WANTED to record something (ha!) he can't.....he can't even sing anymore.

GNR has been dead a long time. At some point, Axl will play his last show, either in Brazil or Vegas, and that'll be it. No fanfare. No announcement. Just quietly fade back into obscurity and then die.

Who knows? Maybe he's already played his last show. Not like he NEEDS the money. He can just sit back and eat, bang models, and do drugs til he croaks. Not a bad way to go out actually.

If the reality of the situation is what you have described. And believe it pretty much is. Then I hope Axl calls it a day, the sooner the better. Having said that we still have Slash, Duff and Izzy. They are in a position to make a new band together with KOC or whatever without Axl. In my opinion it will be a shame if they never do something together again. Sure it won´t be the same, it won´t be GN´R but they can still make a great band and music.

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well, seeing as the followup album is already done (calling it CD leftovers is stupid, that's like calling Chinese Democracy "TSI leftovers", it's a whole different album), the answer is obviously new music. It really blows, but Axl won't ever accept his share of the blame for the breakup, and until he does and realizes that Slash isn't the only one who should be apologizing for stupid shit said about the other (I'm looking at you, Slash is a cancer), Axl won't work with Slash again.

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As a die-hard GnR fan since 87, it's with disullusionment I see what is happening. It's been a sad state of affairs since 2011, with a couple of exeptions - old songs played again.

As I am always hoping for something great to happen, what is more likely: Reunion or new music? Or....same old touring for a few more years before retirement...?

At this point, i'm not sure. A full reunion with Slash never happen, imo

We got a bigger chance for a new record, than Slash ever play with Axl again

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Reunion.

Axl is too afraid to put out music. I firmly believe we only have CD because the label forced it to be released and I doubt they'll go through all this again to release a very uncommercial album. If they need GnR money again, they'll release a GH. That's easy money. An album consisting of Silkworms and Going Down? With no promotion from Axl? Having to deal with TB? Eeehhh...

I'm not saying a reunion will happen. I'm just saying that a reunion seems less impossible. With Duff being this middle man between Ax and Salsh, Ron possibly leaving, NuGNR at its all time low. Maybe money will ease Axl's hatred up a little.

My preference would be a new album but we need to know how interested the label is in it to actually force its release once again. Axl will never do it on his own.

There has been no indication that Duff will serve as a middle man between Axl & Slash.

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Reunion.

Axl is too afraid to put out music. I firmly believe we only have CD because the label forced it to be released and I doubt they'll go through all this again to release a very uncommercial album. If they need GnR money again, they'll release a GH. That's easy money. An album consisting of Silkworms and Going Down? With no promotion from Axl? Having to deal with TB? Eeehhh...

I'm not saying a reunion will happen. I'm just saying that a reunion seems less impossible. With Duff being this middle man between Ax and Salsh, Ron possibly leaving, NuGNR at its all time low. Maybe money will ease Axl's hatred up a little.

My preference would be a new album but we need to know how interested the label is in it to actually force its release once again. Axl will never do it on his own.

There has been no indication that Duff will serve as a middle man between Axl & Slash.

I know.

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As a die-hard GnR fan since 87, it's with disullusionment I see what is happening. It's been a sad state of affairs since 2011, with a couple of exeptions - old songs played again.

As I am always hoping for something great to happen, what is more likely: Reunion or new music? Or....same old touring for a few more years before retirement...?

In my perfect world:

Step 1

Release the 6-CD 4-DVD 1998-2008: Chinese Leftovers boxset

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Step 2

Do a GnR reunion tour. No now album.

Step 3

Quit

There, closure.

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Fans would just hate him for not making new music with Slash.

FUCK! Axl can't win can he?

*Axl finally reunites with Slash, against all odds, and tours the world again*

"Yeah, but why didn't they record new music?"

Geez, you could send people free Benjamin's and they'd complain the bill isn't crisp enough.

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Fans would just hate him for not making new music with Slash.

FUCK! Axl can't win can he?

*Axl finally reunites with Slash, against all odds, and tours the world again*

"Yeah, but why didn't they record new music?"

Geez, you could send people free Benjamin's and they'd complain the bill isn't crisp enough.

You guys are just being sarcastic, right?

Axl has released one album in the last 20 years. He helped break up the greatest rock band of all time, fought tooth and nail to keep the name/brand GnR alive................for what? A revolving door of musicians and one album.

The overwhelming majority of fans would love a GnR reunion. The overwhelming majority of fans would love a new album from the current band. There is a small minority of people who will complain no matter what he does - that's part of life, part of every band or artist, it isn't mysteriously tied to Axl.

People that focus on the minority of complainers spread just as much negativity to the forums as those people they are complaining about.

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But to answer your first question. Yes, Axl can win. Put out music more often than once every 20 years. Communicate occasionally with fans. Change up the set-list a bit during tours. And do a couple interviews a year. That's all he has to do to "win." Pretty simple stuff.

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I've said it before, and I'll say it again....

If I were running gnr this is what I would do, now that it appears BBF is done, and now that Axl and Duff are friends again, it is time to really think about a reunion of sorts. Will it be the AFD line up? No, probably not. I don't think Axl really wants much to do with Adler these days, so Sorum would get the call before adler imo. I think Izzy would be interested in an on again off again type role. Maybe help write and perform at his convience. So a 2nd guitar player would be needed to fill that role perminatly. Would igt be Gilby? Fortus? Ashba? IDK, but those are the 3 possibilities imo. Of course Axl/Slash/Duff/ and Dizzy will be there.

But the first right move would be to reintroduce Guns n' Roses to the world, and a tour IS the right first step, not an album. Go out on tour and if everybody doesn't want to kill each other when it's done, then do an album next. Unfortunatly, as we all know, it takes Axl forever and a day to do an album, so this could be problem. So as a tide over, I think the right move would be to release any and all music that is worthy in the vaults. Illusions outtakes, TSI outtakes, and yes CD leftovers. This way everyone is happy. As some have said on here, they want the CD leftovers more than anything, so these fans do need to be happy as well in order to completly unite the fan base again. But the only way Slash would approve of new gnr music coming out that he didn't play on would be to package it with Illusion and TSI leftovers as well. Maybe a box set? IDK, but something along those lines. Maybe even some of the old Illusion tracks could get a 2014/5 makeover. But while this release is out there, the band needs to be working on a new album. Just do one more, call it Guns n' Roses, tour the album for 3 years then go to retirement if thats what Axl wants. Everyone wins, everyone is happy, and the gnr story has a happy ending.

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Fans would just hate him for not making new music with Slash.

FUCK! Axl can't win can he?

*Axl finally reunites with Slash, against all odds, and tours the world again*

"Yeah, but why didn't they record new music?"

Geez, you could send people free Benjamin's and they'd complain the bill isn't crisp enough.

You guys are just being sarcastic, right?

Axl has released one album in the last 20 years. He helped break up the greatest rock band of all time, fought tooth and nail to keep the name/brand GnR alive................for what? A revolving door of musicians and one album.

The overwhelming majority of fans would love a GnR reunion. The overwhelming majority of fans would love a new album from the current band. There is a small minority of people who will complain no matter what he does - that's part of life, part of every band or artist, it isn't mysteriously tied to Axl.

People that focus on the minority of complainers spread just as much negativity to the forums as those people they are complaining about.

**********

But to answer your first question. Yes, Axl can win. Put out music more often than once every 20 years. Communicate occasionally with fans. Change up the set-list a bit during tours. And do a couple interviews a year. That's all he has to do to "win." Pretty simple stuff.

Yeah, I was under the impression we were both being sarcastic.

I'm in agreement with you.

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