WhazUp Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Zeppelin have no swing. It is just, Plant wailing like a woman with his big poncy hair do. It is just cacky songs about Elves and Lord of the Rings. Those are not 'rock n' roll' lyrics. There is no attitude or grease there. There is no way Zeppelin can be considered in the same league as The Stones - or for that matter, The Beatles, The Who, Kinks, Purple, Sabbath, Adler's Appetite - alright, I joke. Zeppelin fans are also the most intensely annoying rock n' roll fans ever.The only way one might think all their songs are about elves and Lord of the Rings is if they have only heard The Battle of Evermore and Ramble On and nothing else. They absolutely have attitude, songs like When The Levee Breaks, The Lemon Song, How Many More Times, Heartbreaker, The Rover, The Wanton Song, etc. I consider full of attitude and groovy, dirty rock n' roll 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Dude Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Zeppelin have no swing. It is just, Plant wailing like a woman with his big poncy hair do. It is just cacky songs about Elves and Lord of the Rings. Those are not 'rock n' roll' lyrics. There is no attitude or grease there. There is no way Zeppelin can be considered in the same league as The Stones - or for that matter, The Beatles, The Who, Kinks, Purple, Sabbath, Adler's Appetite - alright, I joke. Zeppelin fans are also the most intensely annoying rock n' roll fans ever.The only way one might think all their songs are about elves and Lord of the Rings is if they have only heard The Battle of Evermore and Ramble On and nothing else. They absolutely have attitude, songs like When The Levee Breaks, The Lemon Song, How Many More Times, Heartbreaker, The Rover, The Wanton Song, etc. I consider full of attitude and groovy, dirty rock n' rollPeople saying they don't have swing and all that miss the point- Zeppelin wasn't looking to swing so much as they were (and did) out-heavy everyone else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 (edited) In reality, they had a bit of everything. So accusing them of not having something, is the wrong way to go. Edited August 29, 2014 by moreblack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Someone said UFO? this gives me an excuse to post this: (dat solo ) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 (edited) What about the folky acoustic stuff?Bit too Elvin and, Ye olde England squire, for my tastebuds. Edited August 29, 2014 by DieselDaisy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 What about the folky acoustic stuff?Bit too Elvin and, Ye olde England squire, for my tastebuds.Even Going To California? so beautiful.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ty_WlmIKvY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron MikeyJ Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 What about the folky acoustic stuff? Bit too Elvin and, Ye olde England squire, for my tastebuds. Even Going To California? so beautiful.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ty_WlmIKvYProbably my favorite acoustic rock track ever written (songs that stay completly acoustic). I agree it's fucking beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvH Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Ramble On is my favorite Led Zep song so fuck you haters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Did someone in this thread really suggest that Adler is better than John Bonham? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Dude Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 YesDid someone in this thread really suggest that Adler is better than John Bonham?Yes and they put Adler in the same league with Charlie Watts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Diet Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 YesDid someone in this thread really suggest that Adler is better than John Bonham?Yes and they put Adler in the same league with Charlie WattsI think even Steven when he is as high as the Empire State Builnding can tell them to fuck themselves with this stupid claim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 YesDid someone in this thread really suggest that Adler is better than John Bonham?Yes and they put Adler in the same league with Charlie WattsI think even Steven when he is as high as the Empire State Builnding can tell them to fuck themselves with this stupid claimWhen people are trying to make an extremely outlandish point, they tend to make extremely outlandish references. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 (edited) YesDid someone in this thread really suggest that Adler is better than John Bonham?Yes and they put Adler in the same league with Charlie WattsI think even Steven when he is as high as the Empire State Builnding can tell them to fuck themselves with this stupid claimWhen people are trying to make an extremely outlandish point, they tend to make extremely outlandish references.I like your cold, calculated approach to explaining shit talkers lol. It's very official and scientific sounding. I agree though, and you just can't take people like that seriously. Edited August 30, 2014 by Rovim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Qualitatively, nobody has made a comparison between Adler and Watts - it seems people need glasses here. Stylistically somebody has: me. And here is the original post:What I mean is, there is no groove or sleaze there. Zeppelin possessed a big metal thumper, in Bonham, so they did not have the greasy groove of a Watts, Adler or a John Densmore. You simply get this massive 'bash bash' noise with Zeppelin.What is there to refute here? Are you suggesting that Adler does not possess a groove and, in fact, drums in the Bonhamesque manner a la his successor and numerous Metal drummers (far too many to name)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 (edited) Qualitatively, nobody has made a comparison between Adler and Watts - it seems people need glasses here. Stylistically somebody has: me. And here is the original post:What I mean is, there is no groove or sleaze there. Zeppelin possessed a big metal thumper, in Bonham, so they did not have the greasy groove of a Watts, Adler or a John Densmore. You simply get this massive 'bash bash' noise with Zeppelin.What is there to refute here? Are you suggesting that Adler does not possess a groove and, in fact, drums in the Bonhamesque manner a la his successor and numerous Metal drummers (far too many to name)?No, you're right, Adler is a much better drummer compared to Bonham. Bonham just doesn't have the groove and sleaze. It's all just bash bash noise. All of it. No groove.But this is expected, since Led Zeppelin were just a bunch of larpers that made music about elfs and lord of the rings type tales. I totally get where you're coming from. Edited August 30, 2014 by Rovim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Needs more grease. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Needs more grease.He does. I tell you my favourite drummer ever. DJ Fontana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandallFlagg Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Down By The Seaside is so fucking chill and serene, it has such gravity and scope but never seems to break out of that drifty breeze it's got going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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