GNRfanMILO Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Hello, im new in the forum. I know there are a lot of topics about Axl, but im having a small question:Do you think that Axl's performance has improved due to Duff's temporal stay in Guns N' Roses over the last 6 months? I think it did, for me, 2014 performance was the best since 2010, and i also think this is about Duff being on the band. I see Axl full of energy and life, maybe Duff presence made him change in some type of way.Sorry about my bad english, im Argentinian https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIrJsyzbMFM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl_morris Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 (edited) Nothing to do with duff. He gets better the more shows he does in a tour. People slated his openimg shows in south america and loved him at the end of vegas...Look at 2011, opening show at Rio wasnt great. The last 2 shows in 2011 were proshot in LA and they were 10x the Rio show. Edited September 2, 2014 by Axl_morris 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 i doubt anything at this point can "save" axl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron MikeyJ Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 i doubt anything at this point can "save" axlThat's not true, Axl could "save" Axl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceguy Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 I don't think so. Axl still won't release any new music. By all accounts, he's just gonna lay low for a while and then trot out ANOTHER ChiDem tour in the near future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 i doubt anything at this point can "save" axlThat's not true, Axl could "save" Axl.which will never happen, so like i said no one can save axl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandallFlagg Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Nothing to do with duff. He gets better the more shows he does in a tour. People slated his openimg shows in south america and loved him at the end of vegas...Look at 2011, opening show at Rio wasnt great. The last 2 shows in 2011 were proshot in LA and they were 10x the Rio show.This is true.Maybe he has a little more enthusiasm with the Duffster around but if that's what enthuses him he oughta just do cash grabs with the full old line up, I don't see any correlation with his quality of performance and Duff's presence though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Diet Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 (edited) Nothing to do with duff. He gets better the more shows he does in a tour. People slated his openimg shows in south america and loved him at the end of vegas...Look at 2011, opening show at Rio wasnt great. The last 2 shows in 2011 were proshot in LA and they were 10x the Rio show.Plus he seems to be in a good mood and he looks less bloated and cracking more jokes, huh bro?Although i agree the last few Vegas shows was great. and seeing Duff performing with the band is always great Edited September 2, 2014 by Crash Diet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR DOOM Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 One can only hope it made him realise that there's no substitute for the real deal.As cool as it was having Duff onstage with Axl again, seeing DJ frolicking about there too took a great deal of the shine off it for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 AXL KNOWS the difference between Guns n' Roses and his band.HE KNOWS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRfanMILO Posted September 3, 2014 Author Share Posted September 3, 2014 AXL KNOWS the difference between Guns n' Roses and his band.HE KNOWS.Of course he knows, but that won't change shit."Not on this lifetime"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 It kind took the heat off Axl on the Internet forums. For a could of days. But overall nothing gonna change my world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandallFlagg Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Do you reckon Axl of 2001 would approve of having an 'original' member playing on the stage when there's been one album in 13 years and questionable continued existence of so-called 'new' GNR, I just don't get his logic. Sure, it's a very celebrated friendship but why would he want him up there all things considered? Maybe Axl and the rest of the guys just don't know any competent bass players but it's not that hard to play GNR songs on bass in reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I think there's an element of Axl showing them look I'm doing great no hard feelings. They are handing him victory. They aren't a threat anymore. It fits the greatest hit shows too. If Slash did a show they do Double talking Jive and Bad Obsession? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppetiteForGnR Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Only Axl can help Axl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combos Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 i doubt anything at this point can "save" axlI don't know. I'm sure if you asked his doctor, he'd probably reply "treadmill." As far as my opinion? I'd reply "treadmill and the original band." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Dude Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Yes, the lobe has clearly helped improve his vocals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Rose Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Do you reckon Axl of 2001 would approve of having an 'original' member playing on the stage when there's been one album in 13 years and questionable continued existence of so-called 'new' GNR, I just don't get his logic. Sure, it's a very celebrated friendship but why would he want him up there all things considered? Maybe Axl and the rest of the guys just don't know any competent bass players but it's not that hard to play GNR songs on bass in reality.It's a really interesting point. You could equally say 'Would the 1992 Axl who did the setlist rant approve of the sets from 2001-2014?'It really comes down to him basically having generally given up on the dreams and plans he had for the new band. In his open letter in 2002 he talked about shutting up all the doubters in one fell swoop. These days he dejectedly and exhaustedly says he hopes to put out another record in his lifetime. He sold Bucket on joining the band based on releasing multiple albums with shows leaning heavily on new material once the first album was out. He wanted to be relevant and make up for lost time and prove himself generally.I remember him proudly detailing all of the tour statistics a while back but I doubt that deep down he's really proud of what he's achieved in the last 13 years vs what he originally aspired to. But he's basically stuck with what he's created: a nostalgic jukebox band. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intercourse Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 (edited) It was said in some thread that Axl knows that current band members are not there for him but for their own careers (can't blame an employee for that really.)I often wonder does Axl miss the "gang mentality" they had back in the day. Duff seems like a good man to have in your corner. I was surprised Axl didn't work harder at keeping him around, they looked like they really enjoyed each other's company.I think alot of the Slash hatred is because the new band didn't fly. If Axl had realised his vision he simply wouldn't need to hate Slash, he'd be an irrelevance. Edited September 3, 2014 by Intercourse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lies They Tell Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Axl's voice sucked in the early 2014, despite Duff's presence so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Axl is beyond good and infamous now. He's a living legend yo. So Duff played a few shows with him, I doubt that real effected his short term or long term aura. The Recife show I saw on youtube looked badass though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dando Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I think Axl upped his game when duff played full shows, only seen YouTube stuff but there's just more energy to him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabbath Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I think his presence helped Axl in the sense of him wanting to give a little more during those shows. Overall probably no, but Axl's energy was noticeably different during the Duff shows from what I saw on the YouTube videos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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