luciusfunk Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 America also didn't care much for Hot Space or Body Language. But yeah, everything I've read is Americans didn't "get" the video for I Want to Break Free. It's great that Queen has regained popularity enough to do US tours now, just a shame Freddie isn't with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 America also didn't care much for Hot Space or Body Language. But yeah, everything I've read is Americans didn't "get" the video for I Want to Break Free.It's great that Queen has regained popularity enough to do US tours now, just a shame Freddie isn't with them.The ironic thing is, Hot Space did better in the States than The Works. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsh327 Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Hot Space had Under Pressure. It needed someone like Nile Rodgers or George Clinton to funk it up. It's funk lite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luciusfunk Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Hot Space inspired Thriller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 America also didn't care much for Hot Space or Body Language. But yeah, everything I've read is Americans didn't "get" the video for I Want to Break Free.It's great that Queen has regained popularity enough to do US tours now, just a shame Freddie isn't with them.Not only that, Americans didn't get Queen to begin with. They never understood Bohemian Rhapsody, when it came out for the first time 1975 I think it only made number 9. Crazy Little Thing Called Love was their first US number one, probably because they thought it was an Elvis song. Another One Bites the Dust became their second US number one, I don't know how Under Pressure charted. There just weren't enough fans to fill the stadiums. No one Freddie to do a duet with when performing Love of My Life. They probably couldn't get past his outfits or mustache. It took Wayne's World in 1992 to "masculinize" the song. Then it became okay for straight men to like Queen. I mean there have been Queen fans in the US for awhile (Axl Rose, James Hetfield) but they probably kept it in the closet. No pun intended.Hot Space is a great album. I think Body Language is a horrible song but Staying Power was fun, better live, Dancer, Back Chat and Action This Day were fun. Brian's pro-gun law Put Out the Fire is amazing. The whole second side was great. Disco was dead anyway so I guess Queen never got the memo. AC/DC killed it with Back in Black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 I watched this documentary on the making of Bohemian Rhapsody and they got Oxford's best literary minds to decipher the lyrics and they couldn't figure out the song and one asks "What would Freddie think if we were trying to figure out his song" someone replies "He'd be fucking delighted!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 (edited) But they were a big band in the 1970s: Madison Square Gardens, Detroit Cobo Hall, Long Beach Arena - these are not venues to be sniffed at and they were all sold out by Queen between 1977-78 (A Day At The Races to Game Tours). America's love of Queen peaked with The Game, then quickly unraveled. Edited December 8, 2014 by DieselDaisy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 So they had a brief stint in the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luciusfunk Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 (edited) Body Language is an underrated live gem. Love Roger's vocals on it. Revisionist history is Queen was never understood in America, but as Diesel has shown, they were quite popular until Hot Space and the I Want to Break Free video.Bohemian Rhapsody still didn't hit number one in the US when it was re-released in 1992. Edited December 8, 2014 by luciusfunk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 I liked Rain Must Fall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 The thing is, when their album sales slumped with The Works, Queen were sort of cocky about plugging the market (this was still the days when, you promoted an album through touring it). They would have probably dropped from stadiums to theatre so they basically said, ''why bother?'' and never toured America again. Hypothetically, they could have worked the market a bit but they would have started from such a drop, from the places they were playing elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Yeah, stadium tours mean more tickets. Was the attendance really poor during the American leg of the Hot Space tour? There was one show in Montreal or some North American city where they had this unenthusiastic crowd, to which Freddie lost patience with them and was like "Come you mother fuckers!" Obviously I found the video after I typed that first sentence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luciusfunk Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 (edited) Montreal was just two shows between The Game and Hot Space to make a concert film. It wasn't really part of a tour and Freddie was upset with the crowd on Love of My Life and Jailhouse Rock.Queen at the MK Bowl was Hot Space. I haven't seen video of any US Hot Space shows, but I've heard audio. Edited December 8, 2014 by luciusfunk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 I've heard they might release the 1979 Hammersmith Show next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luciusfunk Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 I know people want more 70s, but I want to see an official release for The Works tour. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 I know people want more 70s, but I want to see an official release for The Works tour.They have a lot more shows in the vaults waiting to be restored and released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luciusfunk Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 We'll see. It's more likely we get unreleased shows than unreleased music. They've been talking about a Beatles Anthology-type release since 2000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Some of it have been on the EP discs on the remastered CD's. Been slowly collecting them. Right now I much rather see live shows. Especially from the 70's because they are much more rare. I wonder if Live at Wembley is the definitive Queen show? Seems to get the most praise among fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luciusfunk Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 (edited) But a lot of what was released on the bonus EPs has been around for a while and Brian and Roger didn't even want to release them.Wembley is the show I see most people mention. Edited December 8, 2014 by luciusfunk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 I didn't know that. I don't really follow Brian and Roger much. Mostly because I have been pissed at them for Adam Lambert. At least Paul Rodgers never tried to be like Freddie. Even then, I never bothered with Queen plus Paul. To me, Queen was over with Freddie passed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luciusfunk Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 I'm sort of the same way, but seeing Q+AL live was an amazing experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 I wonder if Live at Wembley is the definitive Queen show? Seems to get the most praise among fans.There's a good bit of sentimental value to that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 I wonder if Live at Wembley is the definitive Queen show? Seems to get the most praise among fans.There's a good bit of sentimental value to that one. The band was great, Freddie had that rasp from night after night of singing, but he still sounded great but the audience were the best. When Freddie couldn't hit the high notes that night but the crowd managed to do it he said "fuck you!" that was great. Freddie sounded fantastic Live at the Rainbow. He took better care of his vocals back then. He was more talkative though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Rainbow '74 is such a Queen hipster's dream setlist. You really have to know your Queen to dig all the tunes being played, but Wembley 86 had pretty much every big song they released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Rainbow '74 is such a Queen hipster's dream setlist. You really have to know your Queen to dig all the tunes being played, but Wembley 86 had pretty much every big song they released.It was before A Night at the Opera when they became one of the biggest bands in the world. It shows even before they became huge they acted like they were the biggest band in the world. That confidence worked out for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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