The Real McCoy Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Buckcherry (the first 3 albums were amazing, everything else since that has been terrible.) I agree with Buckcherry but their second album was awful. S/T was good, 2nd was bad, 15 was good... What was next? Black Butterfly I think it was called? I remember thinking that had more good songs than bad but haven't listened to it for a while. In Flames have done it twice:Amazing "Come Clarity"Awful "A Sense of Purpose"Amazing "Sounds of a Playground Fading"Awful "Siren Charms" You beat me to it. SOAPF was a great record, I said it when it came out and it's still true: it's their best album since Clayman. I bought Siren Charms without listening to it first and it's pretty bad. The only song I'm digging is "When the World Explodes".I'll add these:Aerosmith going from Nine Lives to Just Push Play.Eminem going from The Eminem Show to Encore. I REALLY liked "Timebomb" from Buckcherry. I haven't listened to it for a while, so I don't know how well it's aged for me.I'm also a fan of Aerosmith's "Just Push Play." I just listened to that album the other day. It's held up surprisingly well, but to this day, I still can't stomach "Fly Away From Here" in any way, shape, or form. I used to really like Just Push Play and I still like a couple songs but otherwise it didn't hold up at all, for me. They were good on that tour though from the bootlegs I've heard.I never understood the panning that the album received. Sure, there's definitely a lot of pop elements in it, but the rockers like "Beyond Beautiful" balance it out.That said, going back to "Nine Lives" for a second, that album is SEVERELY underrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 I never understood the panning that the album received. Sure, there's definitely a lot of pop elements in it, but the rockers like "Beyond Beautiful" balance it out.That said, going back to "Nine Lives" for a second, that album is SEVERELY underrated.Most songs have some good parts but I dunno, it doesn't click for me. The good and bad don't balance out, whereas Nine Lives is almost entirely good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real McCoy Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 I never understood the panning that the album received. Sure, there's definitely a lot of pop elements in it, but the rockers like "Beyond Beautiful" balance it out.That said, going back to "Nine Lives" for a second, that album is SEVERELY underrated.Most songs have some good parts but I dunno, it doesn't click for me. The good and bad don't balance out, whereas Nine Lives is almost entirely good.I've noticed that ever since the '80s comeback, that the band has saved some of the best songs from the sessions for either international bonus tracks, soundtracks, or b-sides.PV: "Rockin' Pneumonia and the Boogie Woogie Flu", "Once Is Enough"Pump: "Deuces Are Wild", "Sedona Sunrise" (from the "Devil's Got a New Disguise" best of), "Love Me Two Times" (Doors cover)GAG: "Don't Stop", "Head First", "Can't Stop Messin", "Lizard Love" (showed up YEARS later on a Rugrats movie soundtrack of all things), "Devil's Got a New Disguise" (from the compilation of the same name.)NL: "Falling Off", "Fall Together", "What Kind Of Love Are You On?"JPP: "Face", "Won't Let You Down", "Angel's Eye"MFAD: "Shakey Ground", "I'm Not Talkin"That's not to mention all of the unreleased songs from those sessions that have never surfaced to this day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Was once is enough ever officially released? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real McCoy Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 (edited) Was once is enough ever officially released?Yep - it was the b-side on the 45 of "Dude (Looks Like a Lady)", or "Rag Doll", I can't remember. But it was ALSO available on the mega-rare Japan only "Vacation Club" EP. The EP is the only way to get the song on CD.EDIT: Edited October 5, 2014 by The Real McCoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death Star Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Asking Alexandria- anything after Stand Up And Scream. Slash's Snakepit to me did the exact opposite. I found Ain't Life Grand more enjoyable than It's Five O' Clock Somewhere. Five 'O Clock seemed a little rushed whereas Grand seemed more polished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay410 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 I thought Avenged Sevenfold's City of Evil was a damn good record, but their Self titled was a shit storm of suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gackt Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Megadeth's Endgame to Th1rt3enPink Floyd's The Wall to Final CutPrimus' Tales from the Punchbowl to the Brown AlbumWeezer's Pinkerton to the Green S/TDaft Punk's Discovery to Human After AllDavid Bowie's Low to LodgerElectric Six's Zodiac to Heartbeats & BrainwavesKISS' Dynasty to Unmasked (debatable, but I still enjoyed Dynasty for tracks like 2,000 Man and Sure Know Something)Led Zeppelin's Presence to In Through the Out Door Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEXzilla Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Robert Plant releasing Raising Sand(with Alison Krause who probably had the better songs) and then releasing whatever turd he did after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunsfanoldie Posted October 6, 2014 Author Share Posted October 6, 2014 Slash's Snakepit to me did the exact opposite. I found Ain't Life Grand more enjoyable than It's Five O' Clock Somewhere. Five 'O Clock seemed a little rushed whereas Grand seemed more polished.Absolutely agree. I've long said Ain't Life Grand is one of my favorite rock albums of the last 20 years. 5 O Clock seems to get all the praise, and while it has its moments, I don't think its nearly as consistent. I think just as you said, the album was rushed and they needed to fine tune it. Its what Axl would have done were he involved. Rein Slash in and away from some of the stuff on the album, like the pointless jam at the end of Dime Store Rock, that ended up being clunkers. The album is about 2 songs too long, and Ain't Life Grand got it perfect by cutting the tracklist a bit and trimming the album of all the fat and making all the songs very well structured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 NIRVANAAmazing: NevermindAwful: In Utero (The songs are fine but the production is terrible, sorry Albini fans)SMASHING PUMPKINSAmazing: Siamese Dream, Pisces Iscariot, and Mellon Collie & the Infinite SadnessAwful: Adore (sans the title track), Machina (sans Everlasting and Stand Inside), and anything else Corgan has done sinceALICE IN CHAINSAmazing: Dirt (as well as Sap and Jar of Flies, if you think they count)Awful: Alice in Chains aka Tripod (some good moments but no song in its entirety is any good, mainly because of shitty production) GUNS N' ROSESAmazing: Appetite for Destruction, GN'R Lies (if you take it for what it is), Use Your Illusion (sans a few songs here and there)Awful: "The Spaghetti Incident?" and Chinese Democracy (though Chinese had potential if released earlier in a less overproduced format) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 I am a somewhat odd creature in, being a bit of a Dynasty defender. It is probably my third favourite Kiss album, although, in hindsight, it was the, beginning of the end. For an album which supposedly represents Kiss's, so deemed 'wrong-footed' decision to enter into the disco-pop genre, it is surprisingly heavy. It has three full bodied Ace rockers on it - just how pop can it be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Drama Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 NIRVANAAmazing: NevermindAwful: In Utero (The songs are fine but the production is terrible, sorry Albini fans)SMASHING PUMPKINSAmazing: Siamese Dream, Pisces Iscariot, and Mellon Collie & the Infinite SadnessAwful: Adore (sans the title track), Machina (sans Everlasting and Stand Inside), and anything else Corgan has done sinceALICE IN CHAINSAmazing: Dirt (as well as Sap and Jar of Flies, if you think they count)Awful: Alice in Chains aka Tripod (some good moments but no song in its entirety is any good, mainly because of shitty production) GUNS N' ROSESAmazing: Appetite for Destruction, GN'R Lies (if you take it for what it is), Use Your Illusion (sans a few songs here and there)Awful: "The Spaghetti Incident?" and Chinese Democracy (though Chinese had potential if released earlier in a less overproduced format)Jar of Flies counts and it's equal with Dirt in many people's books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 NIRVANAAmazing: NevermindAwful: In Utero (The songs are fine but the production is terrible, sorry Albini fans)No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sturginho Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 System of a Down: Toxicity was followed by the dismal Mesmerize & Hypnotize (steal this album does not count)QOTSA: 'Songs for the deaf' was a great album but was followed by the awful 'Lullabies to paralyze' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Drama Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 NIRVANAAmazing: NevermindAwful: In Utero (The songs are fine but the production is terrible, sorry Albini fans)No.x2. Someone seriously doesn't know their grunge. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gackt Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 NIRVANAAmazing: NevermindAwful: In Utero (The songs are fine but the production is terrible, sorry Albini fans)No.x2. Someone seriously doesn't know their grunge.ThirdedNirvana was only getting better and better, and You Know You're Right was a great tease for what could have been the 4th Nirvana album. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 (edited) Jar of Flies counts and it's equal with Dirt in many people's books.It's probably my favorite release from them but I put it in the "if you think it counts" category considering that it's only an acoustic EP and not really one of their "proper" records NIRVANAAmazing: NevermindAwful: In Utero (The songs are fine but the production is terrible, sorry Albini fans)No.x2. Someone seriously doesn't know their grunge.ThirdedNirvana was only getting better and better, and You Know You're Right was a great tease for what could have been the 4th Nirvana album.Scott Litt produced that song tho, right? If he produced an entire record for Nirvana I probably would've been into it. And I read an interview where Cobain said he wanted at least half of the would've-been 4th record to be acoustic in vein of their unplugged performance. I think that would've been a good direction for them to go in. Edited October 6, 2014 by rocknroll41 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbunnig Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 I disagree with those saying Load. It's got a lot of great songs.Alice Cooper - Dirty Diamonds > Along Came a SpiderAlice Cooper - From the Inside > Flush the Fashionblink-182 - Enema of the State > Take Off Your Pants and Jacket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Black Sabbath: Sabotage --> Technical EcstasyKISS: Creatures of the Night --> Lick It UpMotorhead: Overnight Sensation --> Snake Bite Love Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 American Idiot > that album with Know Your Enemy and 21 Guns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEXzilla Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Joshua Tree followed by Rattle and Hum(idk if anyone mentioned this one). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR DOOM Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 David Bowie's Low to LodgerMinor nitpick, Heroes is between Low and Lodger...also Lodger isn't a turd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 The Black Parade (not amazing but pretty good) followed by that fucking awful superhero concept album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estranged Reality Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 raw power > the weirdness./thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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