Conspiracy Questions

[MrPoe]

In nearly all Youtube videos filmed with a hand held camera, the cameraman reacts to an unexpected event, like someone smashing into a wall, or being shot, or something similar.

However Zapruder didn't move or react at all as he filmed Kennedy being shot.

And on 9-11...if I planned something so insidious, I'd have every agent I had in New York filming the event. So where are the Bin Laden supporters' videos of the first plane to hit the WTC?

[Snake-Pit]

Who was the first person on the moon?

A: The cameraman.

"Here we are, we're coming, we're about to touch down somewhere we've never been before, look, we landing - door opens, dude steps out, says one small step speech, everybody's happy."

[Dazey]

Sorry Poe but anybody who thinks that 9:11 was an inside job is an idiot.

Who was the first person on the moon?

A: The cameraman.

"Here we are, we're coming, we're about to touch down somewhere we've never been before, look, we landing - door opens, dude steps out, says one small step speech, everybody's happy."

Who filmed Neil Armstrong stepping onto the Moon?

The Lunar Module did. While still on the steps, Armstrong deployed the Modularized Equipment Stowage Assembly from the side of the Lunar Module. This housed, amongst other things, the TV camera. This meant that upward of 600 million people on Earth could watch the live feed.

Duh! Edited October 26, 2014 by Dazey

[Snake-Pit]

I was half serious about the cameraman joke.

Just so you know.

!

[Len Cnut]

And on 9-11...if I planned something so insidious, I'd have every agent I had in New York filming the event. So where are the Bin Laden supporters' videos of the first plane to hit the WTC?

The problem here is that you've gone for the bullshit propaganda you see only the telly through news and you believe that Al Qaeda is some kind of a really highly trained well organized kind of thing instead of just a blanket umbrella used by terrorists or rather assigned to terrorists who might've passed through one of the other mujahideen training camps in certain recognised areas.

Put simply, you could leave where you are today, go to these training camps, learn your shit for 6 months, have no more contact with any of those motherfuckers, act totally independently, blow some shit up and the news media'll call you 'Al Qaeda', whether or not you shared a goat curry with Bin Laden or Al Za...uh, i can't spell his name but Bin Ladens apprentice, the one that holds the bucket while he goes up the ladder

[Snake-Pit]

Was Diana murdered?

Was the Titanic poorly managed to sink for the insurance and had it's papers and registrations swapped with it's sister ship the Olympic which was in for repairs when they were building the Titanic and really the Titanic served in the military?

During a world war or two... ^ about Titanic.

[Jakey Styley]

And on 9-11...if I planned something so insidious, I'd have every agent I had in New York filming the event. So where are the Bin Laden supporters' videos of the first plane to hit the WTC?

Do you actually believe that's a good point?

[RandallFlagg]

I think september the 11th was a false flag attack, which are the oldest political tricks in the book, there's just too many holes and innumerable problems with the 'official story', it's just unraveling how much they let happen or manufactured themselves to help the tapestry take shape enough to pass it off as the digestible fairy tale it eventually formed itself into. I don't even think it's a case of a conspiracy theory when you look at what occurred from 2001-now in the big picture... it's just politics.

[Dazey]

Thats the thing with conspiracy theories that make me laugh my arse off. People spot what they think are a few inconsistencies in the official account and manage to justify an even more ridiculous alternate story off the back of it. I mean Im not saying that the government was 100% truthful about the 9/11 hijackings but that doesnt mean that it was an inside job. If you think that there are holes in the official story then just think about what youre proposing as an alternative with pretty much zero supporting evidence and think about which of the two scenarios are most plausible. Its just tin foil hat craziness at its most idiotic.

If you think that 9/11 was an inside job then poking holes in the official story does not in itself do anything to prove your case. If you think the government was behind it then try showing some evidence to support your contention that amounts to anything more than conjecture or hearsay.

Edited October 27, 2014 by Dazey

[Ace Nova]

Thats the thing with conspiracy theories that make me laugh my arse off. People spot what they think are a few inconsistencies in the official account and manage to justify an even more ridiculous alternate story off the back of it. I mean Im not saying that the government was 100% truthful about the 9/11 hijackings but that doesnt mean that it was an inside job. If you think that there are holes in the official story then just think about what youre proposing as an alternative with pretty much zero supporting evidence and think about which of the two scenarios are most plausible. Its just tin foil hat craziness at its most idiotic.

If you think that 9/11 was an inside job then poking holes in the official story does not in itself do anything to prove your case. If you think the government was behind it then try showing some evidence to support your contention that amounts to anything more than conjecture or hearsay.

Pretty spot on. Anyone who knows how the American government operates would understand that an operation of that magnitude, on the government level, would take thousands of people to pull off....especially with the entire "controlled demolition" and "missile into Pentagon" theories. Thousands of government employees, thousands of man hours, using thousands of hours of technology, etc.etc, etc. There is not a chance that someone, at some point, would not have leaked some real evidence by now. Not a chance.

[Dazey]

Thats the thing with conspiracy theories that make me laugh my arse off. People spot what they think are a few inconsistencies in the official account and manage to justify an even more ridiculous alternate story off the back of it. I mean Im not saying that the government was 100% truthful about the 9/11 hijackings but that doesnt mean that it was an inside job. If you think that there are holes in the official story then just think about what youre proposing as an alternative with pretty much zero supporting evidence and think about which of the two scenarios are most plausible. Its just tin foil hat craziness at its most idiotic.

If you think that 9/11 was an inside job then poking holes in the official story does not in itself do anything to prove your case. If you think the government was behind it then try showing some evidence to support your contention that amounts to anything more than conjecture or hearsay.

Pretty spot on. Anyone who knows how the American government operates would understand that an operation of that magnitude, on the government level, would take thousands of people to pull off....especially with the entire "controlled demolition" and "missile into Pentagon" theories. Thousands of government employees, thousands of man hours, using thousands of hours of technology, etc.etc, etc. There is not a chance that someone, at some point, would not have leaked some real evidence by now. Not a chance.

You'd think somebody would have noticed a professional demolition team rigging the towers with a fucktonne C4. The implausibility of that little doozy simply doesn't occur to these people but it must be true because three streets away a florist with a hearing aid could swear they heard an explosion that couldn't have been any number of other things you might expect to be occurring in a burning building that was just hit by 100 tonnes of 747 packed to the gills with aviation fuel. Edited October 27, 2014 by Dazey

[Ace Nova]

You'd think somebody would have noticed a professional demolition team rigging the towers with a fucktonne C4. The implausibility of that little doozy simply doesn't occur to these people but it must be true because three streets away a florist with a hearing aid could swear they heard an explosion that couldn't have been any number of other things you might expect to be occurring in a burning building that was just hit by 100 tonnes of 747 packed to the gills with aviation fuel.

Yes, of course. I've watched just about every single one of those conspiracy 9/11 inside job documentaries and for some time, they even had me going. I then went to sleep, woke up and came back to reality....with some common fucking sense.....

The only one I actually paid a little more attention to was the one produced by engineers.....but at least they don't necessarily think it was an inside job....they just don't seem to understand how exactly they collapsed....and I'm ok with that. Not knowing or understanding is ok but not knowing and then assuming it's a conspiracy is not ok.

[MrPoe]

And on 9-11...if I planned something so insidious, I'd have every agent I had in New York filming the event. So where are the Bin Laden supporters' videos of the first plane to hit the WTC?

Do you actually believe that's a good point?

I shouldn't have even put 9-11 in here. I was more interested in the Zapruder not reacting thing. For the record, I believe 9-11 was NOT an inside job. I don't believe in any of the crap conspiracies.

[Rustycage]

Peer pressure.

[AxlisOld]

Thats the thing with conspiracy theories that make me laugh my arse off. People spot what they think are a few inconsistencies in the official account and manage to justify an even more ridiculous alternate story off the back of it. I mean Im not saying that the government was 100% truthful about the 9/11 hijackings but that doesnt mean that it was an inside job. If you think that there are holes in the official story then just think about what youre proposing as an alternative with pretty much zero supporting evidence and think about which of the two scenarios are most plausible. Its just tin foil hat craziness at its most idiotic.

If you think that 9/11 was an inside job then poking holes in the official story does not in itself do anything to prove your case. If you think the government was behind it then try showing some evidence to support your contention that amounts to anything more than conjecture or hearsay.

Pretty spot on. Anyone who knows how the American government operates would understand that an operation of that magnitude, on the government level, would take thousands of people to pull off....especially with the entire "controlled demolition" and "missile into Pentagon" theories. Thousands of government employees, thousands of man hours, using thousands of hours of technology, etc.etc, etc. There is not a chance that someone, at some point, would not have leaked some real evidence by now. Not a chance.

You'd think somebody would have noticed a professional demolition team rigging the towers with a fucktonne C4. The implausibility of that little doozy simply doesn't occur to these people but it must be true because three streets away a florist with a hearing aid could swear they heard an explosion that couldn't have been any number of other things you might expect to be occurring in a burning building that was just hit by 100 tonnes of 747 packed to the gills with aviation fuel.

Also, did you know jet fuel doesn't burn hot enough to melt steel? If there's one thing I know about metal, it retains 100% of its strength until it is melted to liquid. SO WHY DID THE BUILDING COLLAPSE?!?!11!@?!

Was the government involved in 9/11? No. Proof: it actually worked.

[Ace Nova]

Thats the thing with conspiracy theories that make me laugh my arse off. People spot what they think are a few inconsistencies in the official account and manage to justify an even more ridiculous alternate story off the back of it. I mean Im not saying that the government was 100% truthful about the 9/11 hijackings but that doesnt mean that it was an inside job. If you think that there are holes in the official story then just think about what youre proposing as an alternative with pretty much zero supporting evidence and think about which of the two scenarios are most plausible. Its just tin foil hat craziness at its most idiotic.

If you think that 9/11 was an inside job then poking holes in the official story does not in itself do anything to prove your case. If you think the government was behind it then try showing some evidence to support your contention that amounts to anything more than conjecture or hearsay.

Pretty spot on. Anyone who knows how the American government operates would understand that an operation of that magnitude, on the government level, would take thousands of people to pull off....especially with the entire "controlled demolition" and "missile into Pentagon" theories. Thousands of government employees, thousands of man hours, using thousands of hours of technology, etc.etc, etc. There is not a chance that someone, at some point, would not have leaked some real evidence by now. Not a chance.

You'd think somebody would have noticed a professional demolition team rigging the towers with a fucktonne C4. The implausibility of that little doozy simply doesn't occur to these people but it must be true because three streets away a florist with a hearing aid could swear they heard an explosion that couldn't have been any number of other things you might expect to be occurring in a burning building that was just hit by 100 tonnes of 747 packed to the gills with aviation fuel.

Also, did you know jet fuel doesn't burn hot enough to melt steel? If there's one thing I know about metal, it retains 100% of its strength until it is melted to liquid. SO WHY DID THE BUILDING COLLAPSE?!?!11!@?!

Was the government involved in 9/11? No. Proof: it actually worked.

The whole "jet fuel doesn't burn hot enough theory" doesn't hold a lot of water in my book. Apparently, there were plenty of substances inside the buildings that could cause the flames to burn hot enough....so that's that.

[Dazey]

Thats the thing with conspiracy theories that make me laugh my arse off. People spot what they think are a few inconsistencies in the official account and manage to justify an even more ridiculous alternate story off the back of it. I mean Im not saying that the government was 100% truthful about the 9/11 hijackings but that doesnt mean that it was an inside job. If you think that there are holes in the official story then just think about what youre proposing as an alternative with pretty much zero supporting evidence and think about which of the two scenarios are most plausible. Its just tin foil hat craziness at its most idiotic.

If you think that 9/11 was an inside job then poking holes in the official story does not in itself do anything to prove your case. If you think the government was behind it then try showing some evidence to support your contention that amounts to anything more than conjecture or hearsay.

Pretty spot on. Anyone who knows how the American government operates would understand that an operation of that magnitude, on the government level, would take thousands of people to pull off....especially with the entire "controlled demolition" and "missile into Pentagon" theories. Thousands of government employees, thousands of man hours, using thousands of hours of technology, etc.etc, etc. There is not a chance that someone, at some point, would not have leaked some real evidence by now. Not a chance.

You'd think somebody would have noticed a professional demolition team rigging the towers with a fucktonne C4. The implausibility of that little doozy simply doesn't occur to these people but it must be true because three streets away a florist with a hearing aid could swear they heard an explosion that couldn't have been any number of other things you might expect to be occurring in a burning building that was just hit by 100 tonnes of 747 packed to the gills with aviation fuel.

Also, did you know jet fuel doesn't burn hot enough to melt steel? If there's one thing I know about metal, it retains 100% of its strength until it is melted to liquid. SO WHY DID THE BUILDING COLLAPSE?!?!11!@?!

Was the government involved in 9/11? No. Proof: it actually worked.

The whole "jet fuel doesn't burn hot enough theory" doesn't hold a lot of water in my book. Apparently, there were plenty of substances inside the buildings that could cause the flames to burn hot enough....so that's that.

That and the fact that it had just been twatted by a big fuck off jumbo jet at 500 MPH.

[AxlisOld]

But it didn't melt. I've done my YouTube research, brah. Building 7. I WIN!!! INSIDE JOB!!!

[Dazey]

That the same Building 7 that got twatted by a massive fuck off Building 1 and/or Building 2?

[AxlisOld]

Controlled demo. YouTube "Loose Change" and have your eyes opened. Prepare for ownage.

Edited October 27, 2014 by AxlisOld

[Jakey Styley]

Any random person could spot some not-even-true engineering "facts" to the youtube masses who watch that shit and they'd all believe it. Conspiracy theorist type people never ever consider the credibility of their sources, like infowars

[Dazey]

The best one I saw was people saying that diagonally cut beams in the wreckage were evidence of thermite being used. Cut to another picture of the cleanup crews blatantly cutting the beams with cutting torches in just this way.

[Len Cnut]

And on 9-11...if I planned something so insidious, I'd have every agent I had in New York filming the event. So where are the Bin Laden supporters' videos of the first plane to hit the WTC?

Do you actually believe that's a good point?

I shouldn't have even put 9-11 in here. I was more interested in the Zapruder not reacting thing. For the record, I believe 9-11 was NOT an inside job. I don't believe in any of the crap conspiracies.

Well Zapruder was standing a fair distance away on a pedestal was he not? Also i suppose the inclination when you happen upon filming a key moment in human history is to get it all.

I didnt believe the 9/11 theory...and i aint heard em out, i refuse to, its bollocks...and pretty disrespectful bollocks too...to make 5,000 human lives into some kinda pawn piece for your bullshit daydreams.

Theres one for every fuckin tragedy that occurs, aint there?

[Ace Nova]

Theres one for every fuckin tragedy that occurs, aint there?

Yes and there's actually psychology behind it....something along the lines that some people can't seem to grasp the concept that there is real evil in the world.

[SoulMonster]

The best one I saw was people saying that diagonally cut beams in the wreckage were evidence of thermite being used. Cut to another picture of the cleanup crews blatantly cutting the beams with cutting torches in just this way.

Yeah, that was fun. I miss the discussion we had with Rusty on 9/11.