bacardimayne Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 It's so weird when you really think about it. Like, how in the fuck did Buckethead end up in Guns N' Roses playing Nightrain and It's So Easy with Axl Rose? You've got this extremely weird, avant-garde dude who only makes robot music and plays in jam-funk bands like Primus, who for some reason, ends up in a rebooted incarnation of an 80s rock band. He'd never done anything like that before and hasn't since. It's such a strange scenario that we tend to gloss over these days. Everyone talks about how Axl should never have let him go, but how did he manage to bring him in in the first place? Was it really as simple as bringing him to Disneyland and putting a chicken coop in the studio? How different would things be today if Bucket had never been on board? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 $$$ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncitingChaos Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 "When Brian Carroll first got a call from Axl Rose inviting him to join GunsN Roses, he was nonplussed at first. He knew the band, of course, but itwasnt really his kind of thing, right?Axl persevered, though. At Christmas he invited Brian over to his house. Ithadnt been a happy Buckethead holiday up to that point: hed really, reallybeen hoping that someone would give him a certain hard-to-find Leatherfacedoll hed been coveting as a gift, but no one had. Then he arrived at Axlsplace, and Axl had that very doll and he gave it to him. Brian took this asa sign (He must understand me somehow), and he joined the band." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Why he bought him a little dolly of course! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rdeyahlxp Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 I remember listening to a podcast where Freeze or Brain told that one of them brought him in. It was probably this podcast:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAx8--k62LA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flayer Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 (edited) The fact that it'd be so fucking weird seems like it'd be incentive for Buckethead. Opportunity to freak out new and unfamiliar audiences. Edited November 11, 2014 by Flayer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pockets Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 I don't think we should be discussing this honestly. buckethead is the past. BBF is the FUTURE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DieselDaisy Posted November 11, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 11, 2014 I think, with that line-up, Axl wanted a guitarist completely different to Slash; there is an element of, ''You are never going to, out-Slash, Slash, so you may as well go in a completely different direction with a guitarist of high stature''. So Buckethead is from an avant-garde instrumentalist tradition, associated with people like Bootsy Collins, Bill Laswell, the Primus chaps and Brain of course. Similarly, Finck (and Pitman) comes from the alternative (industrial) rock scene of the 1990s. He was going for a completely different direction, guitaristically, than Slash's direction. Slash is simply irreplaceable as a populistic bluesey rocker so Axl's only recourse was to pick guitarists from other musical traditions. Probably the correct decision - the 1999-2002 era was certainly the greatest new gnr era. Why did Buckethead accept? Money and a chance to boost his career, certainly - I seem to remember Monsters and Robots shifting a lot of units after it was announced he had joined Guns N' Roses. I also think (like a lot of musicians) he was bought with the prospect of Chinese Democracy and making music with Axl, not realising that Axl is the laziest man in rock. Interestingly, Axl has reversed his policy with Ashba and now has a bargain basement 'Slash' in his band. The avant garde direction has been jettisoned in favour of nostalgia and cheese. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsh327 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 "Introduced Buckethead to Axl on Christmas Day 1999" - True (Josh Freese website). Buckethead and Viggo Mortensen recorded 7 albums together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carburetta Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 I've commented on similar re' Robin Finck. I think it's in part testament to the name Guns n' Roses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 PSAll the stuff about chicken coops is just garbage. It is just part of the mythos of Buckethead. He is actually an astute 'proper' musician, beneath the mask and all that chicken silliness. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppetiteForGnR Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 I always thought Axl's motivation for getting technically brilliant guitarists was to outdo Slash in that regard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 I'm not at all surprised he joined Guns N' Roses. The chance to work with a musician of the caliber of Axl Rose would have been a massive draw, as well as trying to revive the band and take it in an entirely different direction. I'm sure he'd have been promised the world also, and as we all seen, turned out not to be the case. Interesting period in the timeline of Guns N' Roses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomfriend Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 It's really funny how Bucket was NOT embraced by the GNR fanbase at all, and now 12 years later a large proportion of people suddenly agree that if the band was to have had a bold new future post-Slash, he was it. Expect he feels pretty good. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmapelian Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 $$$Lots and lots of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmapelian Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 I think, with that line-up, Axl wanted a guitarist completely different to Slash; there is an element of, ''You are never going to, out-Slash, Slash, so you may as well go in a completely different direction with a guitarist of high stature''. So Buckethead is from an avant-garde instrumentalist tradition, associated with people like Bootsy Collins, Bill Laswell, the Primus chaps and Brain of course. Similarly, Finck (and Pitman) comes from the alternative (industrial) rock scene of the 1990s. He was going for a completely different direction, guitaristically, than Slash's direction. Slash is simply irreplaceable as a populistic bluesey rocker so Axl's only recourse was to pick guitarists from other musical traditions. Probably the correct decision - the 1999-2002 era was certainly the greatest new gnr era. Why did Buckethead accept? Money and a chance to boost his career, certainly - I seem to remember Monsters and Robots shifting a lot of units after it was announced he had joined Guns N' Roses. I also think (like a lot of musicians) he was bought with the prospect of Chinese Democracy and making music with Axl, not realising that Axl is the laziest man in rock. Interestingly, Axl has reversed his policy with Ashba and now has a bargain basement 'Slash' in his band. The avant garde direction has been jettisoned in favour of nostalgia and cheese.The only reason it's the greatest new Guns era is because they actually recorded music. But personally I hated how that era played the original lineups material. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maynard Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Buckethead prosrituted himself for money and fame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damn_Smooth Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Buckethead prosrituted himself for money and fame.How much prosrituding did he do? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maynard Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Buckethead prosrituted himself for money and fame.How much prosrituding did he do?Loads of prosritude stuff. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damn_Smooth Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Buckethead prosrituted himself for money and fame.How much prosrituding did he do?Loads of prosritude stuff.Would you say it was close to all of the prosritude stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maynard Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Buckethead prosrituted himself for money and fame.How much prosrituding did he do?Loads of prosritude stuff.Would you say it was close to all of the prosritude stuff?I heard the prosritutes were invited to enter his shit covered chicken coop all the time, but Buckethead was unable to cum. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teroz Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Awesome guitar player! I liked him back in the day, a real asset to the new GnR... Now we have DJ Ca$h'bah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowOfTheWave Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 I wonder how different things would be if Axl had had the balls to release CD back in 01/02. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-GenerationX Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 I think it was the same way he got all these guys to sign on back in 1999 or whenever. They were taking a flyer on a guy who at one time was huger than huge. Would he be able to replicate it? Who knows? But they were willing to take a shot. And I think a common denominator in all the guys that left was their coming to the realization that not only was he not going to be able to replicate it, he wasn't even really going to try. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pockets Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 honestly, can we talk about what really matters on mygnr? can we talk about when axl releases the next new gnr record? can we talk about something serious?can we talk about the official cd title? the official tracklisting? the official appearances on guitar solos? what stores will sell it? will it be free? iTunes? can we talk about it?i'd rather get serious talking about and getting official info on the next gnr cd before 2014 closes rather than the same old ha ha he he ho ho shits giggles talk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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