Apollo Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 With the outrage showed by many over the New York harassment topic, I just ask that we all discuss this in a civilized manner and not go on an attack against men or women.I know a few of the female posters on here are going to be outraged again - and this time, I actually agree with you 100%.I was flipping through the channels last night and came across some crazy talk show (a panel of quests across the screen) and one lady said that a recent study showed that 1 out of 5 women attending college would be sexually assaulted.20% of female college students would be sexually assaulted while attending school.The harassment video featured lots of "you look pretty" and "smile" comments. Those were very bothersome to some. Now imagine if walking in that area meant you had a 20% chance of actually being raped.What kind of father would I be if I sent my daughter to a place where she had a 20% chance of being sexually assaulted?Why isn't the media all over this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlisOld Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 The media isn't all over this because those statistics are usually inflated and sexual assault has be trending downward for years.Enjoy. BTW that stands for bureau of justice statistics, not BJs.govHttp://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/press/fvsv9410pr.cfm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 I just graduated college and most of my friends were girls. I don't know anyone who was sexually assaulted. Not saying it isn't a massive problem and doesn't happen, but kids should go to college 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estrangedtwat Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 There are way more practical reasons you shouldn't bother sending a kid to college in this day and age, and it's not for fear of getting raped. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 You'll have to keep your daughter chained to a tree in your house then. She could be sexually assaulted in a bar, or working in a coffee shop, or walking down the streets of NY.Be a good father and keep your daughter out of people's sight, in general. Terrible world we live in. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Nova Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 I just graduated college and most of my friends were girls. I don't know anyone who was sexually assaulted. Not saying it isn't a massive problem and doesn't happen, but kids should go to collegeYeah, I don't remember hearing anything of the sort when I was in college.That 20% number must include women in this scenario: Girl gets drunk at party, has one night stand = sexual assault. That's the only way they could have come up with 20%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GivenToFly Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Sexual assault includes stuff like being groped etc; it's not all penetrative rape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfierose Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 I think it's a valid concern but on balance your daughter is likely to suffer longer term hardship by not being educated. Not that it makes it acceptable to be put at risk to do so.As far as practical suggestions go you could ask a prospective college for their reported assault statistics and how they work to make their campus a safer place. Making an informed decision is probably the best you can hope for. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlisOld Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 OVER 60 PERCENT DECLINE IN SEXUAL VIOLENCE AGAINST FEMALES FROM 1995 TO 2010WASHINGTON – From 1995 to 2005, sexual violence against U.S. female residents age 12 or older declined 64 percent from 5.0 per 1,000 females to 1.8, and remained unchanged through 2010, according to a report, Female Victims of Sexual Violence, 1994-2010, released today by the Justice Department’s Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS).These estimates of sexual violence from 1994 to 2010, averaged across two years and reported as the most recent year, are based on data from the annual National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS). Sexual violence against females includes completed, attempted, or threatened rape or sexual assault. In 2010, females experienced 270,000 rape or sexual assault victimizations at a rate of about two victimizations per 1,000 females age 12 or older.In 1995, 29 percent of rape or sexual assault victimizations against females were reported to the police. This percentage increased to 56 percent in 2003 before declining to 35 percent in 2010. Of the sexual victimizations reported to the police in 2005-10, about 64 percent were reported to the police directly by the victims, 10 percent by another household member and 14 percent by an official other than the police. About 84 percent of the victims stated that the police came to the victim after being notified.When police responded after being notified, the most common police activity according to the victim was to take a report. In 2005-10, police took a report in 86 percent of reported victimizations and questioned witnesses or conducted a search for the offender in 48 percent of reported victimizations. The percentage of reported victimizations in which the police collected evidence increased from eight percent in 1994-98 to 19 percent in 2005-10.The percentage of reported rape or sexual assault victimizations that resulted in an arrest either at the scene or during a follow-up investigation decreased from 47 percent in 1994-98 to 31 percent in 2005-10. Overall, out of the 283,200 annual average rape or sexual assault victimizations in 2005-10, both reported and not reported to the police, approximately 12 percent resulted in an arrest. Other findings showed—The majority of sexual violence against females involved someone the victim knew. In 2005-10, 78 percent of sexual violence involved an offender who was a family member, intimate partner, friend or acquaintance.About 38 percent of sexual violence was committed by a friend or acquaintance, 34 percent by an intimate partner (former or current spouse, girlfriend, boyfriend) and 6 percent by a relative or family member. Strangers committed about 22 percent of all sexual violence, a percentage that remained unchanged from 1994 to 2010.In 2005-10, the offender was reported to be armed with a gun, knife or other weapon in 11 percent of rape or sexual assault victimizations.In 2005-10, about 58 percent of female victims of sexual violence suffered a physical injury during the attack, such as cuts, bruises, internal injuries, broken bones, gunshot wounds or rape injuries. This percentage remained unchanged from 1994-98 to 2005-10.The percentage of females who were physically injured during a rape or sexual assault and received some type of treatment for their injuries increased from 26 percent in 1994-98 to 35 percent in 2005-10.In 2005-10, 80 percent of female rape or sexual assault victims who were treated for physical injuries received care in a hospital, doctor’s office or emergency room as compared to 65 percent in 1994-98.In 2005-10, about one in four (23 percent) rape or sexual assault victims received help or advice from a victim service agency.The NCVS is the largest data collection on criminal victimization independent of crimes reported by law enforcement agencies to the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting Program (UCR)—the nation’s other key measure of the extent and nature of crime in the U.S. During 2010, about 81,950 households and 146,570 persons were interviewed for the NCVS. The NCVS is a self-reporting survey with the first interview conducted in-person. Follow-up in-person or telephone interviews are conducted every six-months for three years.The report, Female Victims of Sexual Violence, 1994-2010 (NCJ 240655), was written by BJS statisticians Michael Planty, Ph.D., and Lynn Langton, Ph.D., and Christopher Krebs, Ph.D., Marcus Berzofsky, Dr.P.H., and Hope Smiley-McDonald, Ph.D., of RTI International. More information on criminal victimization and sexual violence from 1994 to 2010 is available from the NCVS Victimization Analysis Tool on the BJS website at http://www.bjs.gov/. The full text of the report, related documents and other BJS statistical resources can also be found on the BJS website. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facekicker Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Raped? I think they were talking about $100,000 debt for a Liberal Arts degree. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roush Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Often times, we like to believe data informs conclusions. More often than not, it is the reverse.Don't send your kids to college over more systemic concerns in lieu of statistical fabrications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Broue Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 (edited) I'm not sure this is a cupcake topic or a legitimate topic Edited November 21, 2014 by Motivation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 So you're deciding not to allow your daughter to get a college education based on a talk show you happened upon? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downzy Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Sexual assault includes stuff like being groped etc; it's not all penetrative rape.This. 20 percent of women are not getting raped while attending college/university. Sexual assault is a broad definition that includes rape but also many other offences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rock4eva Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Groghan start her at karate classes then self defence classes. It might put your mind at ease that she has a good chance of swatting any guy that decides he wants to grope. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 See, this is why i agree with Americans gun laws, they'll think twice before they bother a bird after you shove a burner up against their nob. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estrangedtwat Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Yeah, cause that's how American gun laws work. Only girls have them. And violent rapists don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 At least the poor loves got a fighting chance my way! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redhead74 Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Sexual assault includes stuff like being groped etc; it's not all penetrative rape. This. 20 percent of women are not getting raped while attending college/university. Sexual assault is a broad definition that includes rape but also many other offences.The term 'sexual assault' really bothers me, especially when actual rape is involved because it is such a broad term. It doesn't in any way indicate the horrific nature of actual rape. Being whistled at, called demeaning names and groped are legitimate forms of sexual harassment. That doesn't in any way equate to being physically raped. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streak Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Get her to take Karate lessons 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinyrobot Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Read this, Groghan https://medium.com/culture-club/is-the-way-we-raise-young-children-contributing-to-college-rape-culture-813a6e7a8668Don't let her out of the College system. Just make sure where she's going and teach her how to take care of herself. Let her trust you, let her know she can call you at any time if something goes wrong. I don't know if this is possible, but would be nice if she doesn't live inside the College campus. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustycage Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Tell her to learn a trade instead. Don't let her blindly burden the rest of her life with insane student loan debt. 100% of college students are being raped that way. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patience 4 Axl Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 You're assuming she even wants to go to college. How about she gets thru nursery school first. And who knows, maybe her dreams for the future doesn't include getting a degree and having her own career, but rather to meet a nice divorced older man, make a few adorable babies one right after the other, and stay home to take care of the kids while he supports her. You never know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 His daughters the cutest thing, if i was her old man I'd be waiting for her boyfriends at the door with a bowie knife Sit there sharpening it like 'So..., what are your intentions...cuz disembowelment are mine if you drop the ball on this one son!' 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDeeds Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Sexual assault includes stuff like being groped etc; it's not all penetrative rape.This. 20 percent of women are not getting raped while attending college/university. Sexual assault is a broad definition that includes rape but also many other offences. So with this definition, unfortunately nearly 100% of women who have attended a concert in the general admission floor area have been sexually assaulted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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