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My daughter will not be going to college. Full of rapists


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It's sad, but I wouldn't not go to college because of those numbers.

There was a rapist near SMU college, but he wasn't a student.

I agree that colleges need to do more to protect their students especially the girls. Maybe they should try to stop all those crazy drinking frat parties where students get crazy drunk and use date rape drugs to get innocent girls into bed.

These things should not be happening in this time. Parents and the college board members and the teachers and professors who run these colleges need to work together and change things.

I feel too much things like sports are made to be more important than actually studies. Some of those male students think that because they are a football "hero" they can do whatever they like. It's not true and yet society and college coaches make it so.

It's sad that female students have to worry more about being assaulted in school than keeping a good grade average.

Maybe more parents should speak up like you and try to get the colleges to make important changes. Maybe if a female student is raped and more parents were allowed to take the college board members to court, then changes would be made.

I don't think anything should stop a child from attending college and fulfilling their dreams.

It's not fair to the child. I know as a parent and grandparent it's always hard to keep your child from danger, but they do have to learn for themselves how the world is and how to deal with it.

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You're assuming she even wants to go to college. How about she gets thru nursery school first. And who knows, maybe her dreams for the future doesn't include getting a degree and having her own career, but rather to meet a nice divorced older man, make a few adorable babies one right after the other, and stay home to take care of the kids while he supports her. You never know.

Wow, not sure if that is an insult or not.

But in my case, we made a choice that our children wouldn't be day-care babies, so either my wife or myself would be the ones raising them - not $8 an hour daycare providers who view children as a job and not as something they love and cherish.

And my wife is a full time college student right now. She is a year away from completing her nursing degree - graduates next December. Where we live registered nurses starting salaries began at $30 an hour. As soon as she gets a job our tables will reverse. She'll go to work full time and I'll be quitting my job and staying home with our adorable babies.

A year from now I'll be the stay-at-home parent, raising the kids, doing a bit of home schooling, writing the next great American novel..........and be semi-retired at 45 years old. Eventually we hope to open a therapeutic riding ranch/camp, a place where people who experience disabilities can come for therapy. With my background in disabilities and her nursing and horse experience, I think we could do some really great things with it.

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But the topic is really about the seemingly high number of sexual assaults that take place on our college campuses. Thanks for those who provided alternative statistics. It is nice to see that the lady on TV was over exaggerating her numbers and her hatred for men is probably higher than it should be.

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Rusty, that is what my oldest son is starting to realize. One of his friends just went to a carpentry trade school for six months and at 20 years old got a job making $25 an hour. His other good friend went to some kind of tech school that lasted less than a year, and is now working on a tug boat/barge and makes $350 a day - they work 10 days straight and then have four days off. And they are so short handed that the crew can work those four days off if they want. So last month this NINETEEN year old kid made 10 grand.....in one month. He is a hard worker so he'll make 100,000 a year - with no college degree - before he is 21 years old. This kid is actually really cool, his plan is to give up a social life for the next five years and by the time he turns 25 years old, he'll have - paid for, no payments - a nice house, boat, cabin and truck. All paid off. He'll have all that at 24 years old instead of at 50 years old.

I love trade schools.

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With the outrage showed by many over the New York harassment topic, I just ask that we all discuss this in a civilized manner and not go on an attack against men or women.

I know a few of the female posters on here are going to be outraged again - and this time, I actually agree with you 100%.

I was flipping through the channels last night and came across some crazy talk show (a panel of quests across the screen) and one lady said that a recent study showed that 1 out of 5 women attending college would be sexually assaulted.

20% of female college students would be sexually assaulted while attending school.

The harassment video featured lots of "you look pretty" and "smile" comments. Those were very bothersome to some. Now imagine if walking in that area meant you had a 20% chance of actually being raped.

What kind of father would I be if I sent my daughter to a place where she had a 20% chance of being sexually assaulted?

Why isn't the media all over this?

Society is forever victim to the acts of previous generations. There is a madness to it, but there is a sensibility too.

There are no answers, we have to endure what comes and hope that in the future, we can find some level ground with these issues.

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That's good and all but what if she wants to do something that can't be learned at a trade school?

I suppose in 16 years she'll figure out what she wants to do with her life. College, trade school, musician, basketball player, doctor, scientist, painter, mom, travel the world.....who knows. Right now she wants to ride horses and eat candy. We shall see what the next sixteen years brings.

For now she's only two - so I'm not too worried about it.

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You're assuming she even wants to go to college. How about she gets thru nursery school first. And who knows, maybe her dreams for the future doesn't include getting a degree and having her own career, but rather to meet a nice divorced older man, make a few adorable babies one right after the other, and stay home to take care of the kids while he supports her. You never know.

Wow, that was condescending. Was that necessary?

You do however, raise a good point that her career may not require a college degree, for instance she may choose a trade such as hairdressing, a chef, a pastry chef or even work in the building trade. I'm pleasantly surprised how many women are now working on building sites in various capacities. It's fantastic.

Ultimately as a responsible parent though, you would always expect and plan that college qualifications will be necessary for your child to have an optimistic future. It's the world we live in now and most people accept that as a reality. Just like most people also accept that everyone has their own way of living their life and make decisions based on what is best for them and their family. Be that stay at home and look after babies whilst being supported by their male or female partner, or both parents working at the same time, or simply not being a parent at all.....being a female working in a male dominated field, or a male working in a female dominated field. It's awesome living in a time when people can make their own choices. They should be free to do it without judgment from others. :)

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Sexual assault includes stuff like being groped etc; it's not all penetrative rape.

This. 20 percent of women are not getting raped while attending college/university. Sexual assault is a broad definition that includes rape but also many other offences.

The term 'sexual assault' really bothers me, especially when actual rape is involved because it is such a broad term. It doesn't in any way indicate the horrific nature of actual rape. Being whistled at, called demeaning names and groped are legitimate forms of sexual harassment. That doesn't in any way equate to being physically raped.

it surpirses me that a smart woman like you likes to be whitsled, called demeaning names and groped

Btw nobody equated these things as an actual double penetration for example...

Sexual assault includes stuff like being groped etc; it's not all penetrative rape.

This. 20 percent of women are not getting raped while attending college/university. Sexual assault is a broad definition that includes rape but also many other offences.

So with this definition, unfortunately nearly 100% of women who have attended a concert in the general admission floor area have been sexually assaulted?

nope you're just dumb

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nope you're just dumb

Calling Dirty Deeds "Dumb" is an oxymoron.

Thanks, KK.

This person also quoted Redhead saying that being whistled at, being groped, etc. is legitimate sexual harassment, and then came up with the idea that "she likes" it. Then this person went on to say something unintelligible about double penetration. I can only assume they are drunk, watching porn, and posting at the same time, so I'm really not too offended.

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nope you're just dumb

Calling Dirty Deeds "Dumb" is an oxymoron.

Thanks, KK.

This person also quoted Redhead saying that being whistled at, being groped, etc. is legitimate sexal harassment, and then came up with the idea that "she likes" it. Then this person went on to say something unintelligible about double penetration. I can only assume they are drunk, watching porn, and posting at the same time, so I'm really not too offended.

:lol: :lol:

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nope you're just dumb

Calling Dirty Deeds "Dumb" is an oxymoron.

Thanks, KK.

This person also quoted Redhead saying that being whistled at, being groped, etc. is legitimate sexual harassment, and then came up with the idea that "she likes" it. Then this person went on to say something unintelligible about double penetration. I can only assume they are drunk, watching porn, and posting at the same time, so I'm really not too offended.

I didn't understand the reference to double penetration either. And I was even more surprised at the suggestion that apparently I like being whistled at, groped and called demeaning names. :huh: The whole thing just went over my 'smart' head. :lol:

And despite the fact that you're apparently 'dumb', DD, I think you might be onto something that there's some simultaneous porn viewing and forum posting going on, hence the double penetration reference. That's pretty smart for a 'dumb' guy. ;)

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I do understand the OP's concern though. It was my experience in uni that there was a problem with assaults and rapes on campus. I also remember hearing of the same problem at other unis. I just figured rapists, trying to find a high number of single girls walking alone, might think colleges were good choices.

I remember the guys at uni started a group to be available to escort girls from place to place to make sure we were not alone and as a sign of support and to show that most guys are good guys. It was very sweet and kind.

So now it's your own daughter and it is time to to go to college and you hear these things. Of course I would worry as I would worry about any situation that may raise the risk of harm to my child. I think I read it here to check with the campus and the police dept to check crime in that area. And understand what the campus does to protect its students. Has the school had student protection campaigns and why? Is the campus laid out safely and well lit up at night?

And of course the lessons to teach our children so they don't find themselves in difficult situations. Don't get drunk around people you don't know, maybe don't get drunk, period. Watch where you're walking, be aware of your surroundings, etc.

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You're assuming she even wants to go to college. How about she gets thru nursery school first. And who knows, maybe her dreams for the future doesn't include getting a degree and having her own career, but rather to meet a nice divorced older man, make a few adorable babies one right after the other, and stay home to take care of the kids while he supports her. You never know.

Wow, not sure if that is an insult or not.

I understand. That's how I felt when I read your original post.

Yes, as you say, comments made on the street by complete strangers was "bothersome" to some women. Are there worse things that can happen in life than an unsolicited approach by a complete stranger - absolutely. But, without knowing someone's history and past experiences, there's no need to continue to trivialize their feelings on the matter in yet another thread. It's interesting that you would feel the need to link the two topics. I'm surprised you didn't throw in how the females here feel about abortion too, just for more shits and giggles. You know I like you Apollo, I really do, and we've known each other forever on here, but man, there are some things that you say that just rub me the wrong way sometimes.

So, for what their worth, statistics show that rape / sexual assault on a college campus occurs at the rate of 1 every 21 hours. The national statistic is that a rape / sexual assault occurs at the rate of 1 every 2 minutes. I don't like either odds, but I do know which I would choose to take my chances if I had to. All any of this shows is that it's not just a college problem, it's an everywhere problem, and, I'll add, not just for females. If I were a parent of a 2 year old daughter, my concerns would focus more on how to keep her safe now, because as I already mentioned, without knowing the life path someone decides to follow, worrying about what could potentially happen on some unknown college campus 16 years into the future seems a bit impracticable. Especially when you realize that the larger threat still exists outside the walls of a higher education learning facility.

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nope you're just dumb

Calling Dirty Deeds "Dumb" is an oxymoron.

Thanks, KK.

This person also quoted Redhead saying that being whistled at, being groped, etc. is legitimate sexual harassment, and then came up with the idea that "she likes" it. Then this person went on to say something unintelligible about double penetration. I can only assume they are drunk, watching porn, and posting at the same time, so I'm really not too offended.

i said as an example for a rape. DP is a form of rape

Your assumption is incorrect, though

I'm sober, not watching porn

Btw sorry to spew in your little circlejerk around here, i couldn't give a fuck about you or everybody here in this thread honestly :jerkoff::popcorn:

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Girl got raped in my fresher's week in first year, I didn't hear about it until years later. I also knew a girl at uni who said she was raped by a friend, but this was when she was abroad (she said the guy knew she couldn't do anything about it). Mate of mine is a cop and says he dealt with a rape case that happened at 7am the other day near where his gf used to live.

As Nosaj says, it's a big bad world and there are risks everywhere. I worry about it having a younger sister, but there's no way to make sure no one ever comes to any kind of harm. You could be hit by a bus tomorrow, some psycho may stab you in your sleep tonight, you may be raped while jogging in the park in broad daylight. All you can do is to prepare yourself as best as possible and try and avoid the most dangerous of situations.

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