SoulMonster Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Reports so far is that at least 84 children in a school has been killed by muslim extremists. The death toll is expected to increase.http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2014/12/16/world/asia/ap-as-pakistan.html?ref=world&_r=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rdeyahlxp Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Savages, just plain savages. Religion is a disease imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duff_rose Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Extremism is a disease. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowOfTheWave Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Extremism is a disease.No religion preaches moderation. Sometimes it's current leaders will, but it's doctrine always mandates extremism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satanisk_Slakt Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 "Religion of peace." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Cue -worthy pseudo debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 My stomach is in knots. This is just horrific beyond words.Hatred is a vicious cycle. It is something that is bred and taught, and unfortunately, there is no end in site.My heart goes out to all the students who passed away and all those injured and affected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Extreme Muslims are the nazis of our generation. Sickening... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Extremism is a disease.No religion preaches moderation. Sometimes it's current leaders will, but it's doctrine always mandates extremism.Absolute garbage. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 This sounds so horrific that it doesn't seem real, I'm so far removed from it that I can't conceive of how terrible it must be at the scene.I still wouldn't lay the blame for this at the door of the religious doctrine itself, blaming "Islam" or "Muslims" is cheap, lazy and doesn't acknowledge the real root of the problem. Most religions (except perhaps Buddhism) could lead, and have led to atrocities as bad as this and worse. Christianity in Uganda, where homosexuals are outed, hunted and murdered with assistance from the state, is probably every bit as barbarous as Islam in Afghanistan or Pakistan, the problem lies within a patriarchical society with low levels of socioeconomic development relying on religion to fill a gap which should be occupied by education. If we had an example of an "Islamic" country where resource distribution and access to education were as high as in any of the "Christian" countries at the top end of the inequality-adjusted Human Development Index then I think it would be as moderate and as functional as most "Western" nations. The problem is, we don't have examples of Islamic countries like that, even places like Qatar, the UAE or Brunei-Darussalem have tremendous amounts of wealth but it's all in the hands of a tiny proportion of the population, keeping the rest impoverished and ill-informed which is a fertile soil for fundamentalism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Turkey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowOfTheWave Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Extremism is a disease.No religion preaches moderation. Sometimes it's current leaders will, but it's doctrine always mandates extremism.Absolute garbage.Which religious book preaches moderation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Extremism is a disease.No religion preaches moderation. Sometimes it's current leaders will, but it's doctrine always mandates extremism.Absolute garbage.Which religious book preaches moderation?Too many to name. Graeco-Romano polytheism was syncretic which inherently contains a spirit of religious co-existence. Buddhism proliferated into multiple beliefs, most of which co-existed and even traded sutras among each other. Post-Reformation era Christianity has developed many moderating influences. Islam historically actually co-existed among other religions under the Caliphate and the Ottomans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted December 16, 2014 Author Share Posted December 16, 2014 Early reports say that more than 100 children has been killed. I don't know what to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowOfTheWave Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Extremism is a disease.No religion preaches moderation. Sometimes it's current leaders will, but it's doctrine always mandates extremism.Absolute garbage.Which religious book preaches moderation?Too many to name. Graeco-Romano polytheism was syncretic which inherently contains a spirit of religious co-existence. Buddhism proliferated into multiple beliefs, most of which co-existed and even traded sutras among each other. Post-Reformation era Christianity has developed many moderating influences. Islam historically actually co-existed among other religions under the Caliphate and the Ottomans. I'll concede my statement may have been too broad. I'm not talking what the leaders of the Church, or even the vast majority of it's followers believe and are preaching, so the Christian religion's influences or Islam's peaceful history do nothing to negate my point. I should have said "official text" instead of doctrine. I'm talking about what the Holy Bible, Quran and other books teach. The official texts don't preach moderation, so regardless of what the official "church" of whatever time period teaches, there will always be the potential for a revival of extremism or "fundamentalism". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Man, this shit needs to be stopped. It's way out of control. What the fuck, man.... Children. 126 fucking children. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Extremism is a disease. No religion preaches moderation. Sometimes it's current leaders will, but it's doctrine always mandates extremism. Absolute garbage. Which religious book preaches moderation? Too many to name. Graeco-Romano polytheism was syncretic which inherently contains a spirit of religious co-existence. Buddhism proliferated into multiple beliefs, most of which co-existed and even traded sutras among each other. Post-Reformation era Christianity has developed many moderating influences. Islam historically actually co-existed among other religions under the Caliphate and the Ottomans. I'll concede my statement may have been too broad. I'm not talking what the leaders of the Church, or even the vast majority of it's followers believe and are preaching, so the Christian religion's influences or Islam's peaceful history do nothing to negate my point. I should have said "official text" instead of doctrine. I'm talking about what the Holy Bible, Quran and other books teach. The official texts don't preach moderation, so regardless of what the official "church" of whatever time period teaches, there will always be the potential for a revival of extremism or "fundamentalism".If, by moderation, you mean religious toleration, the following texts apply?"Thou shalt neither vex a stranger, nor oppress him: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt''Exodus 22:21In the first year of King Cyrus, Cyrus the king issued a decree: "Concerning the house of God at Jerusalem, let the temple, the place where sacrifices are offered, be rebuilt and let its foundations be retained, its height being 60 cubits and its width 60 cubits; with three layers of huge stones and one layer of timbers. And let the cost be paid from the royal treasury. Also let the gold and silver utensils of the house of God, which Nebuchadnezzar took from the temple in Jerusalem and brought to Babylon, be returned and brought to their places in the temple in Jerusalem; and you shall put them in the house of God."Ezra 6:3–5"the church should let dissent grow with orthodoxy until the Lord comes to separate and judge them"Matthew 13: 24-30The beloved of the gods, King Piyadasi, honors both ascetics and the householders of all religions, and he honors them with gifts and honors of various kinds. But the beloved of the gods, King Piyadasi, does not value gifts and honors as much as he values this - that there should be growth in the essentials of all religions. Growth in essentials can be done in different ways, but all of them have as their root restraint in speech, that is, not praising one's own religion, or condemning the religion of others without good cause. And if there is cause for criticism, it should be done in a mild way. But it is better to honor other religions for this reason. By so doing, one's own religion benefits, and so do other religions, while doing otherwise harms one's own religion and the religions of others. Whoever praises his own religion, due to excessive devotion, and condemns others with the thought "Let me glorify my own religion," only harms his own religion. Therefore contact between religions is good. One should listen to and respect the doctrines professed by others. The beloved of the gods, king Piyadasi, desires that all should be well-learned in the good doctrines of other religions.Those who are content with their own religion should be told this: the beloved of the gods, King Piyadasi, does not value gifts and honors as much as he values that there should be growth in the essentials of all religions. And to this end many are working - dhamma Mahamatras, Mahamatras in charge of the women's quarters, officers in charge of outlying areas, and other such officers. And the fruit of this is that one's own religion grows and the dhamma is illuminated also.The Edicts of Ashoka (Buddhism) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Nova Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Christianity doesn't preach moderation or tolerance? The Golden Rule of Jesus Christ, maybe? "Love Thy Neighbor as Yourself" - Mark, 12:31That is the epitome of tolerance and moderation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Christianity doesn't preach moderation or tolerance? The Golden Rule of Jesus Christ, maybe? "Love Thy Neighbor as Yourself" - Mark, 12:31That is the epitome of tolerance and moderation.Jesus was a nice guy by all accounts but God was a fuckin' psycho! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB. Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 The old testament sure has some disturbing parts in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted December 16, 2014 Author Share Posted December 16, 2014 Anyways.....132 kids now. Just heard that 400 schools in Pakistan have been attacked by Taliban so far. The group behind this attack performed more than 600 terrorist attacks last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Nova Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Anyways.....132 kids now. Just heard that 400 schools in Pakistan have been attacked by Taliban so far. The group behind this attack performed more than 600 terrorist attacks last year. What is the Pakistani government doing about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.wa.T Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Many religions have a God that punishes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Many religions have a God that punishes.Cunts then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.wa.T Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Many religions have a God that punishes.Cunts then?That's appropriate. Very appropriate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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