SoulMonster Posted January 11, 2015 Author Share Posted January 11, 2015 Clearly you've haven't got the time to think your logic out either.What's wrong with my logic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Clearly you've haven't got the time to think your logic out either.What's wrong with my logic? I don't know, you'd have to tell me that, you're the one making adjustments to it, contradicting yourself...and then asking me why you've done so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted January 11, 2015 Author Share Posted January 11, 2015 Clearly you've haven't got the time to think your logic out either.What's wrong with my logic? I don't know, you'd have to tell me that, you're the one making adjustments to it, contradicting yourself...and then asking me why you've done so.I've been making adjustements to my logic? That's funny. I've contradicted myself? Where? Or could it just maybe be that the problem lies with your ability to understand?I am not asking you "why you've done so", but to explain what you mean when you claim something is wrong with my logic. Your claim, the onus lies with you to explain what you mean, not me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercool Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 (edited) one of the terrorists (amedy coulibaly) talks just before the attacks. his french is good (it's his first language) but his arabic is as bad as it can be. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0XilGA1Uf8 Edited January 11, 2015 by supercool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Broue Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 one of the terrorists (amedy coulibaly) talks just before the attacks.his french is good (it's his first language) but his arabic is as bad as it can be.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0XilGA1Uf8I think first that he was a soccer player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val22 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Well I as amazed how quickly the French handled this attack and commend for killing those terrorist so they won't have to waste the tax payers money awaiting trial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted January 11, 2015 Author Share Posted January 11, 2015 World leaders, well, mostly Europens leaders, had a meeting today in connection with the big-ass demonstrations that took place in Paris today (2-3 million participants!). On the agenda was how to prevent such terrorism from happening again. I think it was a French minister who afterwards on a press conference said they had decided on two things, 1) make it harder for citizens to travel across borders to fight in wars, 2) work on limiting domestic radicalization. Looking forward to hearing how they are actually going to achieve these goals, ambitious but necesarry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streak Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 World leaders, well, mostly Europens leaders, had a meeting today in connection with the big-ass demonstrations that took place in Paris today (2-3 million participants!). On the agenda was how to prevent such terrorism from happening again. I think it was a French minister who afterwards on a press conference said they had decided on two things, 1) make it harder for citizens to travel across borders to fight in wars, 2) work on limiting domestic radicalization. Looking forward to hearing how they are actually going to achieve these goals, ambitious but necesarry.Yes it will be interesting to see.I do hope there will be some sort of enquiry into possible intelligence failures. All parties involved had travelled to Syria and received training. they were known to to the authorities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Welcome to America, France.PARIS — Seeking to reassure a jittery and unsettled population after last week’s terrorist attacks, the French authorities said on Monday that thousands of police officers and soldiers would be deployed to protect Jewish schools and other “sensitive sites,” in one of the country’s biggest peacetime security operations. The defense minister, Jean-Yves Le Drian, said that 10,000 soldiers would be deployed by Tuesday evening, in what he called “the first mobilization on this scale on our territory.http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/13/world/europe/france-charlie-hebdo-terrorist-attacks.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted January 12, 2015 Author Share Posted January 12, 2015 Charlie Hebdo's attorney has confirmed today that this week's edition will contain new caricatures of Mohammed. The issue will only be 8 pages (rather than 16) but it will come in 1.000.000 copies (rather than 60.000) and be released in more countries than France. All revenues from the issue will go to the families of the 12 victims of the massacre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mao5 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 charlie hebdo is rubbish and sometimes racist. bunch of old punks who thought they were funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Wow, 26 pages.I will just put in my two cents and move along.Freedom of Speech is a basic human right, but I feel many take it too literally. You have the right to voice your opinion but use it with common sense. No fighting words, nothing to provoke others, and be respectful of other people's opinions and beliefs. The attack itself was wrong, but everyone should have known the consequences. France has one of the best anti-terrorist forces in the world so they should be able to handle it efficiently. Hope the families of the victims will find peace and wish no revenge. The attackers are dead anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streak Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Charlie Hebdo's attorney has confirmed today that this week's edition will contain new caricatures of Mohammed. The issue will only be 8 pages (rather than 16) but it will come in 1.000.000 copies (rather than 60.000) and be released in more countries than France. All revenues from the issue will go to the families of the 12 victims of the massacre.Ah well, looks like they were listening to you Soul!This is going to kick off again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Sure, keep poking the hornets nest, see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted January 12, 2015 Author Share Posted January 12, 2015 (edited) Charlie Hebdo's attorney has confirmed today that this week's edition will contain new caricatures of Mohammed. The issue will only be 8 pages (rather than 16) but it will come in 1.000.000 copies (rather than 60.000) and be released in more countries than France. All revenues from the issue will go to the families of the 12 victims of the massacre.Ah well, looks like they were listening to you Soul!It's imrpessive they don't throw in the towel. I admire that. On the other hand, they sort of can't give up. It is also to be expected they will use this issue to attack the terrorists and their beliefs -- that is entirely aligned with their mission, as far as I understand it. As for publishing new Mohammed caricatures, it seems a bit contrived given the circumstances, and more like a "fuck you!" then as genuine criticism, but I will not conclude until I have seen them.I suppose the edition will be sold out quickly. A colleague of mine aske if I could use my French contacts to secure his an issue. Nice touch to dedicate the revenues to the victims' families, I suppose the magazine won't need the money necesarrily, they surely get lots of private donations now from all over Europe. Edited January 12, 2015 by SoulMonster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 It'd be nice if someone learnt to spell Muhammad properly. Unless of course spelling it Mohammed is some kind of satire of colonialist re-imaginings, in which case it's OK This is gonna be like the school kids edition of Oz eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streak Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 We will have to wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I love them old English re-imaginings though. Mos-lems Mohammedans, God that one gets on the muslim worlds tits. Don't tell no French magazines though will ya, they'll probably make it their name The Mohammedan Times! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lio Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 It'd be nice if someone learnt to spell Muhammad properly. Unless of course spelling it Mohammed is some kind of satire of colonialist re-imaginings, in which case it's OK This is gonna be like the school kids edition of Oz eh? ? I don't get it. What do you mean? About half of the male muslims here are called Mohammed or Mohamed In French Mahomet is possible too, it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 It'd be nice if someone learnt to spell Muhammad properly. Unless of course spelling it Mohammed is some kind of satire of colonialist re-imaginings, in which case it's OK This is gonna be like the school kids edition of Oz eh? ? I don't get it. What do you mean? About half of the male muslims here are called Mohammed or Mohamed In French Mahomet is possible too, it seems.Yes but the prophet isn't, is he? There's a lot of Christians called Bertie but that don't mean to say thats what the bloke nailed to the cross was called, does it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted January 12, 2015 Author Share Posted January 12, 2015 It'd be nice if someone learnt to spell Muhammad properly. Unless of course spelling it Mohammed is some kind of satire of colonialist re-imaginings, in which case it's OKThere are many transliterations for almost every name originally written with arab letters. In Norway his name is spelled Mohammed, in Turkey Muhamet, etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 (edited) It'd be nice if someone learnt to spell Muhammad properly. Unless of course spelling it Mohammed is some kind of satire of colonialist re-imaginings, in which case it's OKThere are many transliterations for almost every name originally written with arab letters. In Norway his name is spelled Mohammed, in Turkey Muhamet, etc With the correct one being Muhammad. A lot of those alternate spellings are to do with it being improper to call yourself Muhammad, in fact the name Ahmed was created as a way for muslims to name themselves something that more or less means Muhammad but isnt an identical, and hence something like blasphemous act. Edited January 12, 2015 by Len B'stard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsh327 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 It's interesting to me that you had 2 brothers involved in the Boston marathon killings, one of them had gone over and received training and when he came back, turned his brother on to it. I think the same thing happened in this case. I have no idea the reasoning why people want to join extreme groups unless their families influenced them, or they had drug problems and threw themselves into it to deal with their addictions. I get the people who become disgruntled with the government. Another thing we don't hear about is the rise in antisemitism in Europe and the Jewish citizens leaving to go to Israel because it's getting bad for them. I also keep reading about this French comedian "Dieudonne" that's supporting what happened? I can't think of an equivalent to what he would be in the UK or America. Satire has to be protected and defended even if it's offensive. Why not just slash the delivery truck tires or stage boycotts of the magazine? They wanted to go down as martyrs but just like Boston, they ran like little bitches. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted January 12, 2015 Author Share Posted January 12, 2015 It'd be nice if someone learnt to spell Muhammad properly. Unless of course spelling it Mohammed is some kind of satire of colonialist re-imaginings, in which case it's OKThere are many transliterations for almost every name originally written with arab letters. In Norway his name is spelled Mohammed, in Turkey Muhamet, etc With the correct one being Muhammad.I wasn't aware it was so strict. Then Iran and Afghanistan (both caling him Mohammad), the Arab parts of North Africa (calling him Muhammed), parts of the Arab world (occasionally calling him Mohamed, Mohammed or Mohamad), Bosnia and Herzegovina (Muhammed and Muhamed), Turkey and Albania (Muhamed, Muhammet or Muhamet) do it wrong. The lands that consistently refer to him as Muhammad are Pakistan, Bangladesh, India, Indonesia and Malaysia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOUCOULDBEMINE. Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 It'd be nice if someone learnt to spell Muhammad properly. Unless of course spelling it Mohammed is some kind of satire of colonialist re-imaginings, in which case it's OKThere are many transliterations for almost every name originally written with arab letters. In Norway his name is spelled Mohammed, in Turkey Muhamet, etc With the correct one being Muhammad. A lot of those alternate spellings are to do with it being improper to call yourself Muhammad, in fact the name Ahmed was created as a way for muslims to name themselves something that more or less means Muhammad but isnt an identical, and hence something like blasphemous act.But Jesus isn't spelled as Jesus in every language as well. Only difference is, is that there are a lot of variations on the name Muhammad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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