UK politics thread

[GivenToFly]

Election are less than two months away and I thought we could have a thread about it that could go on afterwards as a general political discussion thread for British posters.

As of today (16.03) the Conservative party is ahead (by a tiny margin) in the polls:

[Graeme]

Couldn't give a shit who becomes PM. Two cheeks of the same arse as far as I'm concerned... But things after this election will hopefully be very interesting indeed.

[DieselDaisy]

The Tories will win; a majority this time so no coalition government. And no, I will not be voting.

[spunko12345]

Couldn't give a shit who becomes PM. Two cheeks of the same arse as far as I'm concerned... But things after this election will hopefully be very interesting indeed.

That must make Nick Clegg the withered scrotum dangling between them.

Edited March 16, 2015 by spunko12345

[Facekicker]

British Politics has become much like US politics. Not as bad but the two cheeks of the same arse sentiment very much applies.

The only one I have any interest in, for entertainment purposes, is Nigel Farage. He's a suberb cupcake.

One thing I will say about Farage in fairness is that in relation to the Euro and the EU he has been spot on - in fact he stood up for Ireland in the EU parliament far more than any of our own spineless lickarses.

[DieselDaisy]

By the way, I have predicted every election right and it will be a Tory majority. Why? The economy. Call Cameron and Osbourne all you want but they have steered the ship out of recession, albeit with unpopular austerity measures. All the Brits care about is money. I knew Salmond lost that SNP election as soon as the currency questions mounted up. Brits, fundermentally, do not give a shit about stuff like race or immigration. They only do not want migrants because they take up jobs and wage packets. Wherever you are in this country, it is all the Brits care about: money. They will vote with their pockets - mark my words. So I predict anything from a small Tory majority to a massive Tory landslide.

I like Farage because he is basically border on line alcoholic and doesn't give a shit. Always has a pint in one hand.

[Graeme]

If the Tories get a majority, the union is finished.

[Gracii Guns]

I'm most likely to vote Labour this year. I know Ed Miliband's talking nonsense regarding privatising the railway, as the Government can't afford to buy it. But I'm a traditional Labour voter and nobody else's proposals look that good either.

With regards to UKIP, I always wonder what's going on with you find a UKIP MP or supporter with a surname such as Lynch or Kennedy, for example.

[DieselDaisy]

Usually British governments have a majority. It is coalition governments that are the oddity, the aberration on the British political landscape.

There is no way Labour will get in. They cannot even agree among themselves. They are tearing themselves apart, between Blairites and old Labour.

[Gracii Guns]

Nigel Farage's new book "The Purple Revolution" sounds like it was ghostwritten by Prince.

I actually wrote my dissertation on party branding, and in a survey I did, several people commented that the UKIP logo reminded them of Poundstretcher.

[DieselDaisy]

The way I see it, you only have two possibilities,

A/ Tory majority

B/ Coalition

There is simply no way Labour could ever win a majority. I suppose I am willing to entertain the theory that Britain might have entered a period of Belgium style coalitions, with all these small parties, Lib Dems, UKIP, SNP and Greens, forming unlikely alliances.

[Graeme]

I'm most likely to vote Labour this year. I know Ed Miliband's talking nonsense regarding privatising the railway, as the Government can't afford to buy it. But I'm a traditional Labour voter and nobody else's proposals look that good either.

With regards to UKIP, I always wonder what's going on with you find a UKIP MP or supporter with a surname such as Lynch or Kennedy, for example.

Does that not disappoint you though? The last general election, I voted Labour because I thought they were the only legitimate shot at preventing the Conservatives from getting into power, rather than because I felt like I was voting for their policies and it felt awful, I was voting out of fear of a potential outcome (which came to be anyway) rather than because I supported their policies or thought they had done a particularly good job.

Every subsequent vote I've taken part in, I've gone for the option which I felt would bring about the change I would like to see and I've never regretted it.

I mean, when you say you're a traditional Labour voter, what does that even mean? In terms of policies, what would you like to see implemented? Are we talking about pre-Blair ideas of Clause IV, unilateral nuclear disarmament, universal higher education etc? Or are you talking about their current manifesto, because when you look at this map of the position of the main UK parties based on their policies, there really isn't that much to distinguish Labour from the Tories, you're voting for more or less the same ideology and I will never vote for a right-wing authoritarian party again as long as I live. Why would I?

[Facekicker]

British Politics has become much like US politics. Not as bad but the two cheeks of the same arse sentiment very much applies.

The only one I have any interest in, for entertainment purposes, is Nigel Farage. He's a suberb cupcake.

One thing I will say about Farage in fairness is that in relation to the Euro and the EU he has been spot on - in fact he stood up for Ireland in the EU parliament far more than any of our own spineless lickarses.

Cupcake? Who the fuck changed my post. Or is that a new wordfilter? It should have read t-r-o-l-l

[DieselDaisy]

Got a man crush on our Farage there? It is the dapper suits he wears. I must get the name of his tailor.

[Facekicker]

Got a man crush on our Farage there? It is the dapper suits he wears. I must get the name of his tailor.

I find him amusing. He upsets a lot of people, particularly the liberal do-gooder politicaly correct type who I have little time for myself. I also agree with a lot of what he says regarding the EU, the Euro, the War on Drugs, Bailouts and on certain immigration and economic policies that he advocates.

I can't speak for other members of his party as I am not familiar with them.

Edited March 16, 2015 by Facekicker

[DieselDaisy]

But cupcake!

He always has a pint in his hand. William Pitt liked a tipple; Churchill liked endless whisky and sodas; Yeltsin on that plane there - what a legend. Never vote for a politician who is not a drinker.

[Gracii Guns]

I usually vote Labour because the centre-left core of their placement is something which appeals to me. I appreciate Socialist theory, but am also a practising Catholic, and don't wish to see anyone with a religious viewpoint feel even more marginalised, which I fear voting father left of Labour would (though neither has it been a liberating experience under the Tories).

The north of England is still suffering economically, family members have been using food banks, and all the jobs seem to be in the south. Voting right wouldn't assist matters in these cases.

Labour are pledging to introduce legislation to protect renters. From being evicted in December due to a fault of my landlords (which cost us an unexpected £1000 in moving costs) to now living in a flat with many problems which my estate agent doesn't care about while my landlord lives in Australia. A change in renting laws is my main hope for a Labour government.

I also want a party which I feel represents me. I'm hardly on par academically or socio-economically with any MP, but Labour are far more relatable to me than David Cameron et al.

In reality, Labour is going to disappoint, and they are farther right than I'd like, but, they are the pick of a not very appealing smorgasbord, and I look forward to five years suffering under Labour than another five years under the Tories.

[Graeme]

Yeah, my sympathies lie with left-leaning voters in the North of England, cause your options are shocking.

I don't know too much about the Green Party of England and Wales but I can't imagine religious discrimination rides too high in their agenda surely?

[DieselDaisy]

The Greens are bonkers:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/green-party/11356354/Drugs-brothels-al-Qaeda-and-the-Beyonce-tax-the-Green-Party-plan-for-Britain.html

[Gracii Guns]

I don't know too much about the Green Party of England and Wales but I can't imagine religious discrimination rides too high in their agenda surely?

I don't believe that government should legislate according to any holy scripture, and I'd rather the state represent the secular majority democratically, but it's about having a heard voice, which I think was very much the case during the Redefinition of Marriage Bill. I'm unsure of the Greens stance particularly (and I don't imagine they're horrible people), but I've read a lot of Socialist Party propaganda and they tar us all with the same brush as "bigots" etc. which is hardly advertising to myself why I should vote farther left than usual.

I did vote Green in the last European Parliament election. I try to assess on a case-by-case basis. I doubt a Green vote would stack up against the Tories as effectively as a red vote might.

[Graeme]

Ultimately, I think my political sympathies lie closest to the Scottish Greens, I'll probably vote for them at the Scottish national elections next year, but this year's about sending a message to Westminster. I don't want to speak too soon, but it looks like Scotland might be about to oblige.

[downzy]

Here, here to democracies that only need a couple of months to elect its representatives

[Len Cnut]

Couldn't give a flying twat (whattup Spuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuunks ) about UK politics. Literally couldn't give a shit. To paraphrase Alf Garnett (best opening to any political opinion ) I've lived for 31 years and I've seen off Maggie, John Major, Tony Blair, Gordon Brown and now the Con-Dem government and y'know what? I ain't noticed a turds worth of difference, to my immediate life, out of any of em. Literally none, zero difference, they are all totally interchangeable for each other, it's like giving your gaff a lick of paint, you just do it to freshen the place up but after a week and that you've forgotten the difference. It's all a load of shite, a bunch of rich people that sit around discussing new ways to shag the poor before poppin' off to the bar, getting loaded on Napoleon Brandy and sticking their fingers in little orphan boys bums. Fuck the lot of em.

There's a new fuckin' thing to shout about every time, a new boogey-man, a new war, a new enemy, a new set of social outcasts but it's all the fuckin' same. It's the most tedious charade and honestly, I'd've never voted in my life if my old man hadn't told me that it was good to be on the electoral register, for some fuckin' reason.

Wankers, one and all.

[magisme]

Don't you guys just roast each other in funny accents and wait for us to tell you what to do?

[Len Cnut]

Don't you guys just roast each other in funny accents and wait for us to tell you what to do?

I fit squarely in the demographic that terrifies your lot the most. Young aged between 16 to 35, brown skinned, muslim background, roots from a 'hotbed of terrorism'.

We roast everyone in our funny accents and wait for you lot to take it out on some hungry people on the other side of the world that ain't had shit to do with it

Edited March 17, 2015 by Len B'stard