Rdeyahlxp Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/its-offical-roth-was-never-in-van-halen.38274/It seems like the two eras can never co-exist peacefullyI liked the idea that Eddie Trunk brought up recently, a VH retirement show/tour where Roth plays half, Hagar plays the other half, and the two unite for the encore for their biggest tracksToo bad the ego's will never let that happen; same goes for Sabbath really, the Dio years were amazing for the band but they'll never be acknowledged again for as long as Ozzy's in the bandVan Halen at the Hollywood Bowl is in October, and Hagar does his Cabo run around his birthday the week later. Let's hope Wolfgang, Alex, and Azoff (and maybe Steve Lukather because Ed has a hard time turning him down) can make it work to get at least Mike on stage. Lol http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/eddie-van-halen-slams-michael-anthony-i-have-more-soul-as-a-singer-than-he-does/http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/sammy-hagar-to-eddie-van-halen-fk-you-youre-a-liar/Yeah, not gonna happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR DOOM Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Like Ozzy, I think EVH is full of shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 These rockstars think they're spiting their 'enemies' but they're only spiting their fans, really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabbath Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 They're real late to that party.Also, Bill asked for him not be featured on the website or social media. Not fanboying, but don't blame the other band members when it's not their decision.Bill asked for his image to be removed from promotion for 13 and these latest tours.I know, that's what I'm saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsh327 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 The possibility of Bill in Black Sabbath could happen even with all the open letter bitching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR DOOM Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 They're real late to that party.Also, Bill asked for him not be featured on the website or social media. Not fanboying, but don't blame the other band members when it's not their decision.Bill asked for his image to be removed from promotion for 13 and these latest tours.I know, that's what I'm saying.What Bill asked for and what "they" have done are two different things though, right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Broue Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Bill Ward has requested that himself, if i recall correctly.Thisdumb move, though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR DOOM Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Bill Ward has requested that himself, if i recall correctly.Thisdumb move, thoughIt's not what he requested though, is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Broue Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Bill Ward has requested that himself, if i recall correctly.Thisdumb move, thoughIt's not what he requested though, is it?Bill is dumb as fuckHe should just shut up, get back on shape and do this gig and living the dream....But yeah, dealing with Sharon Osbourne...it sucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 But yeah, dealing with Sharon Osbourne...it sucksThat right there, is why I don't blame Bill one bit. It's a long list of former colleagues and employees, who won't send flowers to her funeral. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnold layne Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 So what are some stories that make Sharon so bad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabbath Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 So what are some stories that make Sharon so bad?I think people make her out to be worse than she is, but one of the biggest things is probably the re-recording of the bass and drums for Ozzy's first two albums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 One word: Eggfest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabbath Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 One word: Eggfest.While the eggs may have been a bit too far, and the rest of the band had to suffer, what Bruce was allegedly saying throughout the tour was uncalled for as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 One word: Eggfest.While the eggs may have been a bit too far, and the rest of the band had to suffer, what Bruce was allegedly saying throughout the tour was uncalled for as well.He made a few jokes on the nights they had to fill Sabbath's slot, it's not like he was trashing Ozzy every single night like Sharon and Zakk claimed. Whether or not Bruce was out of line is irrelevant - what Sharon did is EXTREMELY unprofessional under ANY circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR DOOM Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 So what are some stories that make Sharon so bad?Have a read through this for startershttp://www.bobdaisley.com/interview/websiteShe tries to rewrite history and wipe out the musicians that made Ozzy a success post Sabbath, basically.Looks like Bill is getting the treatment now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabbath Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 I honestly don't think Sharon has much, if any, to do with the thing with Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR DOOM Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 I honestly don't think Sharon has much, if any, to do with the thing with Bill.After all those years of "it's the four of us" and all that from Ozzy, Bill gets cut out over chump change?It has Sharon written all over it dude.Those letters/messages/replies to Bill, do you think that they were actually written by Ozzy?Sharon written all over it.I'm not into blaming her for EVERYTHING, but when you look at the long list of lousy and cut throat things she has been responsible for...all they care about is money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 They're real late to that party.Also, Bill asked for him not be featured on the website or social media. Not fanboying, but don't blame the other band members when it's not their decision.Bill asked for his image to be removed from promotion for 13 and these latest tours.I know, that's what I'm saying.What Bill asked for and what "they" have done are two different things though, right?"Which brings up another side issue, of course, where, as you probably may have noticed, my name and likeness has been gradually disappearing from BLACK SABBATH. And the claims, on their behalf — not necessarily the band again — but the claims have been that it was me that asked for my name and likeness to be deleted, which is a complete fucking lie and complete bullshit. I've never asked for anything like that. I asked for my name and likeness to be deleted from the promotional posters that could have been misleading to the fans. I don't like misleading people, and I like to be honest and transparent. So that's why it came out." Read more at http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/bill-ward-sharon-osbourne-definitely-dislikes-me-and-she-has-for-a-long-long-time/#5FpYsBTCbJWpyZ0m.99 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axlslash Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 They're real late to that party.Also, Bill asked for him not be featured on the website or social media. Not fanboying, but don't blame the other band members when it's not their decision.Bill asked for his image to be removed from promotion for 13 and these latest tours.I know, that's what I'm saying. What Bill asked for and what "they" have done are two different things though, right? "Which brings up another side issue, of course, where, as you probably may have noticed, my name and likeness has been gradually disappearing from BLACK SABBATH. And the claims, on their behalf not necessarily the band again but the claims have been that it was me that asked for my name and likeness to be deleted, which is a complete fucking lie and complete bullshit. I've never asked for anything like that. I asked for my name and likeness to be deleted from the promotional posters that could have been misleading to the fans. I don't like misleading people, and I like to be honest and transparent. So that's why it came out."Read more at http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/bill-ward-sharon-osbourne-definitely-dislikes-me-and-she-has-for-a-long-long-time/#5FpYsBTCbJWpyZ0m.99Anyone interested in the issue should listen to the whole podcast. As Eddie says in the show, no matter which "side" you're on here, it's hard not to be taken in by Bill's candor, heart, and honesty. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 So what are some stories that make Sharon so bad?I think people make her out to be worse than she is, but one of the biggest things is probably the re-recording of the bass and drums for Ozzy's first two albums.What a dreadful move that was. Even Kiss did not stoop so low. (Axl nearly did if he released that re-recorded Appetite but he did not.) I know he rectified the decision and said it was a stupid move but Ozzy went down in my estimation over that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 (edited) They're real late to that party.Also, Bill asked for him not be featured on the website or social media. Not fanboying, but don't blame the other band members when it's not their decision.Bill asked for his image to be removed from promotion for 13 and these latest tours.I know, that's what I'm saying. What Bill asked for and what "they" have done are two different things though, right? "Which brings up another side issue, of course, where, as you probably may have noticed, my name and likeness has been gradually disappearing from BLACK SABBATH. And the claims, on their behalf not necessarily the band again but the claims have been that it was me that asked for my name and likeness to be deleted, which is a complete fucking lie and complete bullshit. I've never asked for anything like that. I asked for my name and likeness to be deleted from the promotional posters that could have been misleading to the fans. I don't like misleading people, and I like to be honest and transparent. So that's why it came out."Read more at http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/bill-ward-sharon-osbourne-definitely-dislikes-me-and-she-has-for-a-long-long-time/#5FpYsBTCbJWpyZ0m.99Anyone interested in the issue should listen to the whole podcast. As Eddie says in the show, no matter which "side" you're on here, it's hard not to be taken in by Bill's candor, heart, and honesty.i read an interview once by ronnie james dio and he said bill was one of the nicest guys you would ever meet and that he was maybe too nice for the music industry.as for sharon why she is a cunt- rerecording bob daisley and kerslake- running down bob daisley and lee kerslake. daisley, who wrote most of her husbands music as just a "session player" who was easily replaceable.- throwing eggs at iron maiden and cutting off their PA- suing tony iommi for the sabbath name- going after bono and U2( who iam not a fan of) for giving their album away for free.- what she has done to bill ward..there are tons of these but she is just a despicable person. Edited August 22, 2015 by bran 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 I remember reading an interview with her in which she admitted to purposely getting Ozzfest's film crews to focus on Glen Danzig's increasingly apparent cranial bald spot - she had grown a dislike for Danzig on this tour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR DOOM Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 (edited) So what are some stories that make Sharon so bad?I think people make her out to be worse than she is, but one of the biggest things is probably the re-recording of the bass and drums for Ozzy's first two albums.What a dreadful move that was. Even Kiss did not stoop so low. (Axl nearly did if he released that re-recorded Appetite but he did not.) I know he rectified the decision and said it was a stupid move but Ozzy went down in my estimation over that.(After the outcry) Ozzy said it was all Sharon's idea and he didn't want it to happen.It's the old good cop/bad cop routine, good old Ozzy didn't do anything mean, it was bloody Sharon!And those rerecorded albums sounded like SHIT.Absolutely disgraceful.edit: she's an incredibly petty, mean and spiteful woman and now we see her giving Bill the treatment. Sad to see Sabbath go out with Sharon's greedy fingers at the reigns. Edited August 22, 2015 by DR DOOM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 (edited) So what are some stories that make Sharon so bad?I think people make her out to be worse than she is, but one of the biggest things is probably the re-recording of the bass and drums for Ozzy's first two albums.What a dreadful move that was. Even Kiss did not stoop so low. (Axl nearly did if he released that re-recorded Appetite but he did not.) I know he rectified the decision and said it was a stupid move but Ozzy went down in my estimation over that.(After the outcry) Ozzy said it was all Sharon's idea and he didn't want it to happen.It's the old good cop/bad cop routine, good old Ozzy didn't do anything mean, it was bloody Sharon!And those rerecorded albums sounded like SHIT.Absolutely disgraceful.i do agree ozzy hides behind sharon a lot, the guy isnt as fucked up and helpless has some make it out to be. they are perfect for each other no doubt.bob daisley on sharon: RCM: What role did Sharon play when the band was started? BD: She wasn’t even there! It was David and Don Arden managing the band, and she didn’t even come in or have anything to do with it until after that first album was recorded and the band was formed. Everything had been written and recorded for Blizzard of Ozz, and only then did she come in and get involved because David Arden had become a father and his day-to-day management of the band had taken a bit of a back seat. So Sharon took over. But, oh, she talks about how it was so wonderful being there for those first two albums. Really? She wasn’t even there for the first one, and had fuck all to do with it. Edited August 22, 2015 by bran 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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