ronartest2004 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 remember awhile back reading about part of the axl v slash issue was due to slash playing guitar on some of Jackson's track...I didn't think much of it until I came across this video of guns accepting the mtv michael jackson video vanguard award.go to the last minute and listen to axls parting shot.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendez Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Although he might not actually like Michael Jackson, it's likely he was referring to the name of the award, the "Michael Jackson Video Vanguard Award". Saying their song, video, or simply the award had nothing to do with him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowOfTheWave Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 One of most embarrassing moments in rock history. Axl is sad, petty little man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvH Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Although he might not actually like Michael Jackson, it's likely he was referring to the name of the award, the "Michael Jackson Video Vanguard Award". Saying their song, video, or simply the award had nothing to do with himThis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 (edited) Although he might not actually like Michael Jackson, it's likely he was referring to the name of the award, the "Michael Jackson Video Vanguard Award". Saying their song, video, or simply the award had nothing to do with himThis.Yeah but thats the point, why would you say that unless you had a problem with MJ, everyone knows the song has nothing to do with MJ, it's the award thats named after him, it's like getting a Nobel Prize and going 'actually this has nothing to do with Alfred Nobel', why would you do that unless you had some sort of problem with the association. It's obvious he's referring to the name of the award, thats not whats being questioned. Edited September 20, 2015 by Len B'stard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caught_in_a_Coma Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 I agree that the tone of the statement suggests disapproval of MJ from Axl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-W.A.R- Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 One of most embarrassing moments in rock history. Axl is sad, petty little man.if you were molested as a child you may be signing a different tune 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowOfTheWave Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 (edited) One of most embarrassing moments in rock history. Axl is sad, petty little man.if you were molested as a child you may be signing a different tune Didn't his memory about his molestation come from some psychological memory experiment? Edited September 20, 2015 by ShadowOfTheWave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-W.A.R- Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 One of most embarrassing moments in rock history. Axl is sad, petty little man.if you were molested as a child you may be signing a different tune Didn't his memory about his molestation come from some psychological memory experiment?well Axl believed in it and who are we to say its bullshit? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 The award had everything to do with Michael Jackson as he lifted music videos to a level they'd never been to prior. A video like November Rain would have never happened without Michael laying the ground work years prior. So yes, the award had everything to do with Michael Jackson and it was ridiculous of Axl to say otherwise. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendez Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) Yeah but thats the point, why would you say that unless you had a problem with MJ, everyone knows the song has nothing to do with MJ, it's the award thats named after him, it's like getting a Nobel Prize and going 'actually this has nothing to do with Alfred Nobel', why would you do that unless you had some sort of problem with the association. It's obvious he's referring to the name of the award, thats not whats being questioned.Edit: This was before the allegations, whoops. Edited September 21, 2015 by Mendez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estranged Reality Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Although he might not actually like Michael Jackson, it's likely he was referring to the name of the award, the "Michael Jackson Video Vanguard Award". Saying their song, video, or simply the award had nothing to do with himding ding ding!people read into stuff too much, especially when we're talking about stuff that happened over two decades ago. michael jackson was still alive and kickin' in '92 and was HUGE; even if axl had been having a go at him, it would have likely been tongue-in-cheek and a reference to his dominance of the pop landscape. years later people perceive things differently because the context has changed, kind of like how people still bring up axl vs. kurt even though it's highly likely axl himself respects kurt and nirvana these days. these threads annoy me, no offense to the OP. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Drama Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 One of most embarrassing moments in rock history. Axl is sad, petty little man.The most embarrassing thing about that appearance is how Slash and Duff ate dressed. They look like capital poofters from Poison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bono Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 It was a blatant shot at Michael Jackson and Axl not wanting to be associated with him. Pretty obvious...... unless of course your purpose in life is to defend the almighty at all costs. . One of most embarrassing moments in rock history. Axl is sad, petty little man.The most embarrassing thing about that appearance is how Slash and Duff ate dressed. They look like capital poofters from Poison.They're dressed more ridiculous than Axl? I don't think so. They are all dressed goofy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyman Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Here's a thought: who cares?Is it a shot? Isn't it a shot? Who cares?!Btw it's not a reference to the molestation stuff - that award show was before that stuff happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-W.A.R- Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) Here's a thought: who cares?Is it a shot? Isn't it a shot? Who cares?!Btw it's not a reference to the molestation stuff - that award show was before that stuff happened.damn you're rightso the story about Axl being mad about Slash working with MJ because he believed the abuse allegations doesn't add up either Edited September 21, 2015 by -HollywoodRose- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSoftie Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Here's a thought: who cares?Is it a shot? Isn't it a shot? Who cares?!Btw it's not a reference to the molestation stuff - that award show was before that stuff happened.damn you're rightso the story about Axl being mad about Slash working with MJ because he believed the abuse allegations doesn't add up eitherWell it all first came about in '93, so it's still a possible explanation:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_sexual_abuse_accusations_against_Michael_JacksonPersonally I've always thought it was something very personal, more than just musical differences. Who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
passenger57 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 remember awhile back reading about part of the axl v slash issue was due to slash playing guitar on some of Jackson's track...I didn't think much of it until I came across this video of guns accepting the mtv michael jackson video vanguard award.go to the last minute and listen to axls parting shot..I believe Axls remark was in regards to Nirvana. Nirvana had a Michael Jackson impersonator accepting an award an their behalf. This was the day Axl and Kurt got into it with Courtney Love taunting Axl, and him threatening to kick Kurt's ass. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncitingChaos Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 I thought it was in reference to the Jacket/coat Axl was wearing...like he was saying he didn't wear it because he was getting the award. Idk maybe Axl hates him but he does think highly of Mj or he wouldn't have mentioned him among his favorite artist/singers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronartest2004 Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) The thing that struck me was how axl looked at slash after he said what he did. Seemed like that thing we always heard about old gnr being a "gang".Also you can see how truly bloated the band was at that time...slash was loaded, axl was well...axl, and duff looked like he just walked off the set of interview with a vampire. Edited September 21, 2015 by ronartest2004 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Before the allegations but not before having tons of kids up to his golf resort?He may innocent but it's not normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronartest2004 Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share Posted September 21, 2015 Before the allegations but not before having tons of kids up to his golf resort?He may innocent but it's not normal.Everything between mj and that kid happened in 1992, it didn't become public until 1993.And we have to remember back in the early 90s Axl was to interscope as what dr.dre is now, so I'm sure axl and gang had heard things about jackson before any of us.And who knows maybe slash said something about jackson being a weirdo after playing on "give in to me", so axl thought he was having slashs back, then slash turned around and played more songs with the guy.talk bad about someone, then turn around and work with them again. Sounds like what happened back in the mid 2000s with vr and scott.axl probably felt like "wtf" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_rated96 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 ask marc, he'll know 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towelie Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Axl recently listed MJ as one of his personal favourite singers, so I'm pretty sure he's over whatever beef he had with him back in the day. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Rose Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Yeah but thats the point, why would you say that unless you had a problem with MJ, everyone knows the song has nothing to do with MJ, it's the award thats named after him, it's like getting a Nobel Prize and going 'actually this has nothing to do with Alfred Nobel', why would you do that unless you had some sort of problem with the association. It's obvious he's referring to the name of the award, thats not whats being questioned.Edit: This was before the allegations, whoops.And moreover, Axl's recent comments about MJ suggest that he knows what anyone who has done the tiniest modicum of research knows: that MJ was framed and completely innocent of the charges brought by Chandler and Arvizo. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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