alfierose Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 http://loudwire.com/top-hard-rock-metal-frontmen-of-all-time/?utm_source=sailthru&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=newsletter_4511503Axl at No. 8, Slash at No. 11Haven't read through Bassists or Drummers as yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoman Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 (edited) Steven Adler at NO. 50Duff at NO. 37Matt Sorum at NO. 43 Edited October 21, 2015 by snoman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacca Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Everybody from metallica is in there, including all thre halberdiers. I know it's because it is a hard rock/ metal list, but it's so good to see a top list WITHOUT a beatle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 (edited) The problem with this is they have amalgamated the genres 'metal' and 'hard rock' so you have people from Slayer and Venom competing with chaps from Queen, Cream, Hendrix Experience and The Who! Still, I wholeheartedly agree with Jimi Hendrix's victory and Fred topping the vocalists is not going to get many complaints from me. Not sure about Steve Harris ahead of people like Entwhistle, Jack Bruce, Lemmy and Lynott? And Jason Newstead ahead of McKagan (Jason is always considered distinct 'third best' in his own bloody band)! Drummers are problematic for me here because I tend to like more groove laden, ('reserved' you might say), drummers like Charlie Watts who is not hard rock - and certainly not metal! I suppose Phil Rudd and Adler are my own personal brand of drummer. I also like Mitch Mitchell who offers a bit of a compromise here as someone who could really bash it, yet had the 'jazz tradition' and groove. I would select Mitch Mitchell for numero uno then, followed by Moon the Loon and Ginger Baker. Don't forget Peter Criss (in his pomp) also. People like Lombardo and Bostaph are horrific to the ears but they are 'heavy metal' drummers and if you like that genre you will probably like them. Edited October 22, 2015 by DieselDaisy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Everybody from metallica is in there, including all thre halberdiers. I know it's because it is a hard rock/ metal list, but it's so good to see a top list WITHOUT a beatle.Paul could have gotten in there with bass, the Beatles didn't really have a frontman except for maybe John in the early years. George could get in for guitar, his style evolved over the years and Ringo should have been in there for drums. Fucking Gene Simmons got in there for bass. Paul can play in circles around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 I'm going to go read the lists and then be outraged if their picks are not exactly what mine are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Also, no "Greatest bassist" list should be complete without Chris Squire. Whether or not you like Yes or prog rock, his bass was on point and has probably influenced most of the other bass players listed.Also, John Deacon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEXzilla Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 (edited) These list are terrible, I mean Hendrix and Grohl top Cornell and Staley on a vocalist list!!!!! Wtf smh. Any guitar list with guys with no good music like Satriani topping Kim Thayil or Cantrell is just ridiculous. Edited October 22, 2015 by MEXzilla 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Steven Adler at NO. 50Duff at NO. 37Matt Sorum at NO. 43Josh Freese at 30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Everybody from metallica is in there, including all thre halberdiers. I know it's because it is a hard rock/ metal list, but it's so good to see a top list WITHOUT a beatle.Paul could have gotten in there with bass, the Beatles didn't really have a frontman except for maybe John in the early years. George could get in for guitar, his style evolved over the years and Ringo should have been in there for drums. Fucking Gene Simmons got in there for bass. Paul can play in circles around him.It is ehh, 'metal' and 'hard rock'. The Beatles were not really heavy rock except on a few songs like Helter Skelter and I Want You. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Brian Johnson above Bon Scott? No way 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 DC under Brian are different. Under Bon it was more, pub rock, lads on the town, chasing birds. They appealed to Australia's macho male culture, beer slugging ute driving cricket fans. They also had a dark side, producing criminal stuff like Night Prowler and Jailbreak - Bon was in prison for awhile so it was a reoccurring theme for him. With Brian it is less pub, more arena rock. It is a bit less sleazy (but still a bit sleazy) and a lot less dark. It is more about self parody. DC went the route the Stones had entered earlier with It's Only Rock 'N Roll, producing stuff like 'For Those About to Rock', rock n' roll masturbation songs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYWIFEMYLIFE Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Axl, Slash best, Izzy top ten, Duff top ten, steven top 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Jimi Hendrix has fuck all to do with Metal and fuck all to do with 'Hard Rock', there was no such thing when Jimi was about, he was a rhythm and blues guitarist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Speaking of heavy metal, have you seen how many sub-genres there are? There are sub-genres of sub-genres of sub-genres,1 Alternative metal1.1 Derivatives of alternative metal1.1.1 Funk metal1.1.2 Nu metal1.1.3 Rap metal2 Avant-garde metal3 Black metal3.1 Derivatives of black metal3.1.1 National Socialist black metal3.1.2 Red and Anarchist black metal3.1.3 Symphonic black metal3.1.4 Viking metal3.1.5 War metal3.1.6 Blackgaze4 Cello metal5 Christian metal5.1 Derivatives of Christian metal5.1.1 Unblack metal6 Crust punk7 Dark metal8 Death metal8.1 Derivatives of death metal8.1.1 Blackened death metal8.1.2 Death 'n' roll8.1.3 Melodic death metal8.1.4 Technical death metal9 Doom metal9.1 Derivatives of doom metal9.1.1 Death/doom9.1.2 Drone metal9.1.3 Funeral doom9.1.4 Sludge metal10 Extreme metal11 Folk metal11.1 Derivatives of folk metal11.1.1 Celtic metal11.1.2 Pirate metal11.1.3 Medieval metal11.1.4 Pagan metal12 Glam metal13 Gothic metal14 Grindcore14.1 Derivatives of grindcore14.1.1 Deathgrind14.1.2 Goregrind14.1.3 Pornogrind15 Industrial metal16 Latin metal17 Metalcore17.1 Derivatives of metalcore17.1.1 Melodic metalcore17.1.2 Deathcore17.1.3 Mathcore18 Neoclassical metal19 New German Hardness20 Post-metal21 Power metal22 Progressive metal22.1 Derivatives of progressive metal22.1.1 Djent23 Speed metal24 Stoner metal25 Symphonic metal26 Thrash metal26.1 Derivatives of thrash metal26.1.1 Crossover thrash26.1.2 Groove metal26.1.3 Teutonic thrash metal27 Traditional heavy metalSource,https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_metal_subgenres 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shjtjustgotreal Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 lol cobain is on the guitarist list but no becker what a fcking jokeespecially cobain, if anything, he should be #1 on most overrated joke with no real talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ88 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 (edited) Kurt Cobain made the top frontman and guitarists lists....Frontman ok sure, I can see that, but guitarists? LOL no. Edited October 22, 2015 by RJ88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Duff and Adler do not deserve to be on the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Duff and Adler do not deserve to be on the list.Really? In any list of hard rock/metal drummers and bassists I would think they would make a top 50. Duff's basslines during the opening of Sweet Child should get him in alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Broue Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 (edited) Duff and Adler do not deserve to be on the list. Really? In any list of hard rock/metal drummers and bassists I would think they would make a top 50. Duff's basslines during the opening of Sweet Child Rocket Queen should get him in alone. Btw these lists are more pointless than a condom after sex Edited October 23, 2015 by Strange Broue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Duff and Adler do not deserve to be on the list. Really? In any list of hard rock/metal drummers and bassists I would think they would make a top 50. Duff's basslines during the opening of Sweet Child should get him in alone. If we're talking strictly hard rock, maybe, because hard rock doesn't utilize bass enough to make any discernable skill or technique matter. Another person who's too high on the list is Jason Newsted. He basically neutered Metallica's setlists for years, since he was incapable of playing a lot of Cliff's work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Speaking of heavy metal, have you seen how many sub-genres there are? There are sub-genres of sub-genres of sub-genres,1 Alternative metal1.1 Derivatives of alternative metal1.1.1 Funk metal1.1.2 Nu metal1.1.3 Rap metal2 Avant-garde metal3 Black metal3.1 Derivatives of black metal3.1.1 National Socialist black metal3.1.2 Red and Anarchist black metal3.1.3 Symphonic black metal3.1.4 Viking metal3.1.5 War metal3.1.6 Blackgaze4 Cello metal5 Christian metal5.1 Derivatives of Christian metal5.1.1 Unblack metal6 Crust punk7 Dark metal8 Death metal8.1 Derivatives of death metal8.1.1 Blackened death metal8.1.2 Death 'n' roll8.1.3 Melodic death metal8.1.4 Technical death metal9 Doom metal9.1 Derivatives of doom metal9.1.1 Death/doom9.1.2 Drone metal9.1.3 Funeral doom9.1.4 Sludge metal10 Extreme metal11 Folk metal11.1 Derivatives of folk metal11.1.1 Celtic metal11.1.2 Pirate metal11.1.3 Medieval metal11.1.4 Pagan metal12 Glam metal13 Gothic metal14 Grindcore14.1 Derivatives of grindcore14.1.1 Deathgrind14.1.2 Goregrind14.1.3 Pornogrind15 Industrial metal16 Latin metal17 Metalcore17.1 Derivatives of metalcore17.1.1 Melodic metalcore17.1.2 Deathcore17.1.3 Mathcore18 Neoclassical metal19 New German Hardness20 Post-metal21 Power metal22 Progressive metal22.1 Derivatives of progressive metal22.1.1 Djent23 Speed metal24 Stoner metal25 Symphonic metal26 Thrash metal26.1 Derivatives of thrash metal26.1.1 Crossover thrash26.1.2 Groove metal26.1.3 Teutonic thrash metal27 Traditional heavy metalSource,https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_metal_subgenresa lot of those are bullshit IE teutonic thrash isnt a sub genre its just a way to describe the big thrash bands from germany its similar to "the big 4" of american thrash. as for the lists, nice to see king diamond get a nod and dio higher than ozzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Broue Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Duff and Adler do not deserve to be on the list. Really? In any list of hard rock/metal drummers and bassists I would think they would make a top 50. Duff's basslines during the opening of Sweet Child should get him in alone. If we're talking strictly hard rock, maybe, because hard rock doesn't utilize bass enough to make any discernable skill or technique matter. Another person who's too high on the list is Jason Newsted. He basically neutered Metallica's setlists for years, since he was incapable of playing a lot of Cliff's work. I lol'd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Duff and Adler do not deserve to be on the list. Really? In any list of hard rock/metal drummers and bassists I would think they would make a top 50. Duff's basslines during the opening of Sweet Child should get him in alone.If we're talking strictly hard rock, maybe, because hard rock doesn't utilize bass enough to make any discernable skill or technique matter.Another person who's too high on the list is Jason Newsted. He basically neutered Metallica's setlists for years, since he was incapable of playing a lot of Cliff's work.Yet Entwhistle, John Paul Jones, Jack Bruce, Phil Lynott, Gene Simmons and Cliff Williams are on the list. Irrespective of subjectivity, they are all more 'hard rock' than 'metal' and most people would have at least three of those on any given 'greatest bassist' list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 I find a lot of the time, people on lists like these are only on them because of the prestige of the band they were/are in, not because of their own warrant. Didn't Nikki Sixx get caught "bass-syncing" at a Crue show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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