wasted Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 (edited) Wasnt The Black Album situation something to do with the label wanting more pop oriented material? And thats the crux of the Prince thing. When he stops doing pop rock songs like U Got the Look and starts doing RNB stuff like on Emancipation that's when he loses The Rolling Stones fans.The Black Album was shelved at Prince's request. The album was two weeks from release, manufactured and hundreds of thousands of copies sat boxed in warehouses after Prince had some kind of spiritual awakening and demanded that Warner destroy all copies of the album.On wiki it says he tried to do it in 1987. Connect with black audiences again. I guess label just wanted to keep the pop thing going? But he got it out once he was a Symbol ans there for not controlled by the label? Edited November 8, 2015 by wasted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR DOOM Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 While it's his 80's stuff/sound that I really love him for, there's still heaps of good stuff in his later albums.Planet Earth and Lotus Flow3r had some brilliant stuff on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Musicology seems like solid effort. That was on Universal. Does seem like he wanted out of the pop icon mold. He has a weird religious phase too. 3121. At least Dylan finally said fuck it and became a new orleans bluesman arch capitalist. Now he's back on Warners? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 While it's his 80's stuff/sound that I really love him for, there's still heaps of good stuff in his later albums.Planet Earth and Lotus Flow3r had some brilliant stuff on them.That is the one I got free with the Daily Mail. Might see if I can find it and give it another listen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 There was another one pinned to the Mirror. And a few digital releases and live albums. In the year he was warring with Warners I got Emancipation and Girl 6 OST. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towelie Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 (edited) I own every album Prince has done and every bootleg (and there's probably more unreleased stuff than released stuff). His best album post-00's is probably Art Official Age or Planet Earth. Lotus Flow3r was good and I also enjoyed MPLSound which came bundled together as a separate album with Lotus.Musicology and 3121 were fairly tepid efforts without any strong standout tracks.His 90s stuff is very underrated and there is a lot of gems to be found on albums like Emancipation, Rave, Graffiti Bridge, The Gold Experience, Come and Love Symbol.I would recommend any new fan to start with the 80s and work chronologically through his catalogue. At the end of the day, if you don't enjoy classics like Purple Rain, Parade and Sign O The Times then you're probably not going to like a good chunk of his later work. Edited November 8, 2015 by Towelie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 I'm still hoping to hear Dream Factory one day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 I heard he had his ribs removed for self felicio.I heard that too And its fellatio dear boy, you do enough of it, may as well learn how to spell the bastard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towelie Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 I heard he had his ribs removed for self felicio.I heard that too And its fellatio dear boy, you do enough of it, may as well learn how to spell the bastard That story is as true as MJ buying the elephant mans bones, ie the stuff of legend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake-Pit Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 FellpatioSo it's like fell and patio without the P...FellatiofellatioFELLATIOI learnt how to spell a new word Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron MikeyJ Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) I watched a documentary on Prince not to long ago and I feel they hit nail on the head reguarding this topic; "Prince has always had a great sound, but not always a great song." which I feel his newer music very much falls into this category. When he is on tv playing one of his newer songs, I very much think "man this sounds awesome", because it does. But I never find myself singing those songs afterwards. Through most of the 80s, he was able to put together some good songs to go with that great sound. But as time has gone by, the same thing has happened to him that happens to many great musicians, they just plain run out of interesting things to sing about. It might be success, or maybe it's being content with their life, but whatever the reasons they don't have the hunger that that did in their youth. But having said that, Prince can still pick up a guitar and jam the fuck out, and make some really AMAZING music. But his ability to put some great lyrics and melody's with that music appears to be over. But truth be told, songwriting was always prince's weakest area. Lets face it, nobody is 100% the perfect package. Most of your best songwriters are average or slightly above average instrumentalists. While amazing instrumentalists on the other hand, tend to be weak songwriters. Honestly Hendrix and Chuck Berry were the 2 best guitar players with both skills. Edited November 9, 2015 by Iron MikeyJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsh327 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Something about a Europe tour http://cultura.elpais.com/cultura/2015/11/09/actualidad/1447054029_508014.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Prince has enough hits to play live so he can just do whatever he wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I think that Prince is chasing trends nowadays as opposed to starting them. His last few albums have sounded incredibly sterile and generic. Whereas in the 80's up to the mid 90's he was able to sonically march to the beat of his own drum, even though he still had off moments like some of the cringeworthy rap stuff he tried to force into his early 90's materialAll in all he is still incredibly talented but I don't get why he favors making boring pop music over trying to create original and novel pieces of work like he did for 20 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsh327 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I think that Prince is chasing trends nowadays as opposed to starting them. His last few albums have sounded incredibly sterile and generic. Whereas in the 80's up to the mid 90's he was able to sonically march to the beat of his own drum, even though he still had off moments like some of the cringeworthy rap stuff he tried to force into his early 90's materialAll in all he is still incredibly talented but I don't get why he favors making boring pop music over trying to create original and novel pieces of work like he did for 20 yearsHe needed to put out a 1994-2014 compilation for the casual fans, and I think he's focused more on live shows than albums. With getting the publishing and master tape rights, I thought he'd be trying harder to get the entire back catalog out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumblefeet Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Apparently he'll be doing a liberace concert soon with only him at the piano? I'm sure it will be rad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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