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6 minutes ago, Tom2112 said:

He isn't an engineer, as long as they get a good engineer to record and mix it Rubin producing would be cool.

He actually brings his own engineers, Greg Fidelman etc. His production style is to have twenty different bands working in twenty different studies around the LA region; Rubin will then do his rounds, visiting each studio for approx. a hour and saying ''I like this; do this; change this; don't like that'' before leaving!

Do you really think that would work with Axl? Axl didn't like the fact that Alan Niven was also managing Great White!

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49 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said:

He actually brings his own engineers, Greg Fidelman etc. His production style is to have twenty different bands working in twenty different studies around the LA region; Rubin will then do his rounds, visiting each studio for approx. a hour and saying ''I like this; do this; change this; don't like that'' before leaving!

Do you really think that would work with Axl? Axl didn't like the fact that Alan Niven was also managing Great White!

Hard to imagine it working, but maybe? Rubin wouldn't be my first choice.

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Mike Clink would be the choice in my opinion - elvis baskette would be killer as well - Rick Rubin is cool too - Gnr will have new music in the future- with SlaSH'S RIFFS SO GOOD FOR HIS NEXT ALBUM ACCORDING TO EVERYBODY INVOLVED - Does gnr borrow a few because in his book Slash said - izzy- duff , matt and himself wrote the best gnr album ever just needed AXL to sing on it 

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Rick Rubin wouldn't be my first choice either but after the huge success of Sabbath's 13 I imagine he's now the go-to guy for reunited (or rather 'mainly reunited' in the Sabbath and Guns case) bands wanting to recapture the magic. For what it's worth I did really enjoy 13 even if it he basically just got them to copy their old stuff. It seems that's what he does so if he were to work with Guns I imagine we'd get a song very similar to SCOM, a song very similar to Rocket Queen etc. 

My personal preference would be for Kevin Shirley, I think the guy did an amazing job on the first Black Star Riders record and the Black Country Communion records, not to mention Joe Bonamassa's solo stuff. The Mr. Big album sounded great and the Journey album he produced was their most successful in quite a while at the time IIRC. The only possible issue would be that he likes to do things very quickly, in fact IIRC the reason he didn't continue working with Black Star Riders was that Scott Gorham thought the pace was too frantic. Given that Axl likes to take his time (as we all know!) maybe there would be a clash. Personally though I think maybe that's what Axl and the band needs, someone who will make the band work quickly and so get an album done quickly so that we avoid another Chinese scenario. 

Added: As for Josh Homme, I'm a big fan of his but I think he's probably better at working with bands more on the alt/indie side of things rather than a 'traditional' rock band. 

 

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38 minutes ago, BassistSeb said:

 

My personal preference would be for Kevin Shirley, I think the guy did an amazing job on the first Black Star Riders record and the Black Country Communion records, not to mention Joe Bonamassa's solo stuff. The Mr. Big album sounded great and the Journey album he produced was their most successful in quite a while at the time IIRC. The only possible issue would be that he likes to do things very quickly, in fact IIRC the reason he didn't continue working with Black Star Riders was that Scott Gorham thought the pace was too frantic. Given that Axl likes to take his time (as we all know!) maybe there would be a clash. Personally though I think maybe that's what Axl and the band needs, someone who will make the band work quickly and so get an album done quickly so that we avoid another Chinese scenario. 

Added: As for Josh Homme, I'm a big fan of his but I think he's probably better at working with bands more on the alt/indie side of things

 

Kevin Shirley is a good pick. I also like Eddie Kramer, Daniel Lanois, John Hanlon, Glyn Johns (if he can be coaxed out of partial retirement). I know some Stones fans do not like his work but I rather like Don Was also.

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I keep coming back to Clink. There are a lot of great producers, but he seems to have that chemistry with the band that is right for reunion records. And it doesn't have to be just one producer. It probably won't and even if it is, it's still isn't cause Axl produces shit too.

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On 8.2.2016 at 5:38 AM, wasted said:

Rubin is the reunion nostalgia specialist. He just turns up for a chat about 1987. 

I actually like the production on the last Slash solo album. 

Yeah, sounds good. I especially like how Safari Inn sounds and Slash's leads in Battleground. The dude that produced the first Slash solo album managed to make Slash's By The Sword solo sound Guns-ish. It sounds great. Can use that. Slash said he was really satisfied with the production of that album.

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Clink has not done much though by way of rock since the mid '90s, but certainly if he can be coaxed. Slash's producers have been Eric Valentine (Queens of the Stone Age) and Baskette (Alter Bridge). Contraband was Josh Abraham who has worked with all kinds, from Slayer to Kelly Clarkson. Libertad was Brendan O' Brian who has as good a classic rock resume as one could wish for, Neil Young, Springsteen, Dylan, etc.

 

By the way, Velvet Revolver started working with Rubin but sacked him because of his methods. There is no way Slash and Duff would choose Rubin and I cannot see Axl liking his methods either.

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3 hours ago, DieselDaisy said:

Clink has not done much though by way of rock since the mid '90s, but certainly if he can be coaxed. Slash's producers have been Eric Valentine (Queens of the Stone Age) and Baskette (Alter Bridge). Contraband was Josh Abraham who has worked with all kinds, from Slayer to Kelly Clarkson. Libertad was Brendan O' Brian who has as good a classic rock resume as one could wish for, Neil Young, Springsteen, Dylan, etc.

 

By the way, Velvet Revolver started working with Rubin but sacked him because of his methods. There is no way Slash and Duff would choose Rubin and I cannot see Axl liking his methods either.

Clink produced Eye Of The Tiger though. And AFD. Don't think he forgot how to produce hard rock. Take the most hard rocking Izzy/Slash song and give him a shot. See if it still works kind of a thing. Like they first did with him and Shadow Of Your Love.

Valentine is an excellent producer. It depends on what production they will go for. Probably Axl will dictate the direction of it more. Whoever they'll go with, it just won't sound good without Roy Thomas Baker dropping by right when they're wrapping it up, demanding to rerecord everything cause he fuckin' hates the tones.

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11 hours ago, Rovim said:

Clink produced Eye Of The Tiger though. And AFD. Don't think he forgot how to produce hard rock. Take the most hard rocking Izzy/Slash song and give him a shot. See if it still works kind of a thing. Like they first did with him and Shadow Of Your Love.

Valentine is an excellent producer. It depends on what production they will go for. Probably Axl will dictate the direction of it more. Whoever they'll go with, it just won't sound good without Roy Thomas Baker dropping by right when they're wrapping it up, demanding to rerecord everything cause he fuckin' hates the tones.

Yes but will Mike Clink want to do it seeing as he is mostly involved with live recordings now?

I should hope Axl will not ''dictate the direction more'' considering Chinese Democracy sounded an absolute mess in comparison to the productions Slash has managed to obtain! Roy Thomas Baker is one of the greatest producers in the business: Queen's classic '70s albums; The Cars. If Baker had a criticism with Chinese Democracy my guess is he was probably correct in that criticism. I mean this was the guy who produced Bohemian Rhapsody!

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3 hours ago, DieselDaisy said:

Yes but will Mike Clink want to do it seeing as he is mostly involved with live recordings now?

I should hope Axl will not ''dictate the direction more'' considering Chinese Democracy sounded an absolute mess in comparison to the productions Slash has managed to obtain! Roy Thomas Baker is one of the greatest producers in the business: Queen's classic '70s albums; The Cars. If Baker had a criticism with Chinese Democracy my guess is he was probably correct in that criticism. I mean this was the guy who produced Bohemian Rhapsody!

Production sounds great to me, so naturally I conclude your taste is inferior or some shit. But it depends what the goal was. I don't think the goal was the make it sound like a Queen album. Axl had people like Moby and Youth. I think he tried to find a unified production that will work.

It represents the songs well, except maybe Catcher. The guitars were really well captured imo and despite the fact the album is very dense, the production and the sounds work imo.

 

What do you mean when you say absolute mess? like it's busy? it has a shitload of layers yet take a song like There Was A Time, the production on that is stellar. And Roy Thomas Baker didn't have total control over production, it's not like he was the only producer. The mixing, mastering and production are all top of the line to my ears. Not sure you know what you're talking about to be frank Daisy. Also: you live in dreamland if you think Axl won't have more control over production. Don't kid yourself. If Pitman is still in the band (with Slash!) I think that will tell you all you need to know.

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29 minutes ago, Rovim said:

Production sounds great to me, so naturally I conclude your taste is inferior or some shit. But it depends what the goal was. I don't think the goal was the make it sound like a Queen album. Axl had people like Moby and Youth. I think he tried to find a unified production that will work.

It represents the songs well, except maybe Catcher. The guitars were really well captured imo and despite the fact the album is very dense, the production and the sounds work imo.

 

What do you mean when you say absolute mess? like it's busy? it has a shitload of layers yet take a song like There Was A Time, the production on that is stellar. And Roy Thomas Baker didn't have total control over production, it's not like he was the only producer. The mixing, mastering and production are all top of the line to my ears. Not sure you know what you're talking about to be frank Daisy. Also: you live in dreamland if you think Axl won't have more control over production. Don't kid yourself. If Pitman is still in the band (with Slash!) I think that will tell you all you need to know.

I said 'I should hope...considering''. Again you have problems confusing the subjunctive with the indicative. You are probably correct in Axl hijacking the production, taking Slash and Duff's raw tracks and masturbating over them for a decade before filing them away in his vault - hopefully Slash and Duff will have seen sense and walked by then.

I think CD sounds a cluttered mess of an album, full of bleeps, farts and unfathomable noises.

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16 hours ago, Rovim said:

Yeah, sounds good. I especially like how Safari Inn sounds and Slash's leads in Battleground. The dude that produces the first Slash solo album managed to make Slash's By The Sword solo sound GUNS-ish. It sounds great. Can use that. Slash said he was really satisfied with the production of that album.

Debut Slash solo sounds a bit Spag Incident in places. I like the production on Spag Incident. Was that Clink? It's Clink, Clink, Ca-Ching!  

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8 minutes ago, wasted said:

Debut Slash solo sounds a bit Spag Incident in places. I like the production on Spag Incident. Was that Clink? It's Clink, Clink, Ca-Ching!  

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The General with cock rock production by Baskette and multiple synth interludes with soundscapes and a punk edge. 3 Slash solos. Atlas Shrugged is where Izzy must replace and rerecord the G chord in the rhythm and Clink will produce that to see if he got what it takes. It's gonna sound great, but you need at least 5 producers now to make it really work imo.

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I like the productions on CD songs. It has that acoustic, strings and beats feel here and there which very 90s. There's a cult soundtrack vibe as well. There's a wide range of productions from IRS to Scraped. But as a blockbuster event album I'm not complaining. 

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