PappyTron Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 (edited) I don't know if anyone has been following this story, but basically a guy in Fresno posted a series of videos and blog postings that the local PD and FBI were stalking and harassing him and that if he ended up dead it would be them. A couple of days later he was stabbed to death in his gated home and the house burned down. It's all very interesting indeed: http://abc30.com/news/man-found-stab...-home/1167449/FRESNO, Calif. (KFSN) -- Police say a man who had been stabbed was found inside a burning Central Fresno home. He was pronounced dead at the hospital and the neighborhood is in shock.The smoke was spotted by neighbors on Van Ness, just north of Belmont around 3:00 in the afternoon on Wednesday and firefighters just happened to be a few doors down on an unrelated call. Battalion Chief Todd Tuggle said, "While the 911 call was going in, neighbors were flagging down our engine company."The home was heavily secured with a gate so firefighters had to force their way in. After a quick search, they found a man in the kitchen, unconscious and bleeding from several stab wounds. He was taken to the hospital and pronounced dead. Lt. Joe Gomez with the Fresno Police Department said, "Unknown if the stab wounds caused the death or the smoke inhalation, it's too early to tell."Investigators call the death suspicious and they believe the house was intentionally set on fire.The victim was identified as John Lang, 51.http://fresnopeoplesmedia.com/2016/01/2829/ http://abc30.com/news/man-found-stabbed-in-burning-central-fresno-home/1167449/ His YouTube account: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTMl9Ncxd-jhZ81s4z3XA6w/videos An open letter than he wrote a few days before his death: Open Letter the the USDOJ and the FBII am fairly certain that Fresno Law Enforcement is trying to set me up on some type a charge related to child pornography. I've been trying to figure out why they would send Child Molester George Adams Ramirez my way when I was renting the property next to me for Don Green. Also I was at a loss as to how Fresno LE was able to turn so many people against me so quickly. The only thing that makes sense coupled with George Ramirez situation is if Fresno LE told these folks I was a child porn suspect. Imagine a police officer dressed in his official uniform pulling up in a police cruiser. Imagine the same police officer or detective telling a group of coworkers of the accused or other folks that said person is a bad guy who is under investigation for the crimes of child pornography, and cops would like their help in putting a really bad guy away. This would be a no brainier for most reasonable people. There is no more heinous, hideous, and inhuman crime than that of a child porn person. This crime evokes more human emotion than any other. And it is to that effect that Fresno Law Enforcement uses to suit their purpose in my situation. It's Fresno Law Enforcement's “weapon of mass destruction”. This would also explain why the FBI shows little interest in my pleas for help. There has long been a believe in Law Enforcement circles that if someone is guilty of something, then helping that process along by fabricating evidence is completely acceptable. This rational can provide a loophole for truth and justice to be ignored when an innocent person is charged or suspected of crimes, as it is with my situation. Let this example serve as a warning to all my activist and blogger friends. We are by no means free. If and when the Government targets us, we are completely and utterly done, and there is really nothing we can do about it. Through my example the Government is trying to drive home the point that they want obidient, submisive, and loyal subjects. And they will settle for nothing less..I'm also fairly certain I've figured out how Fresno Law Enforcement handled the actual access and internet distribution of the offensive material. Let's just say that the FEDS should re-investigate all Child porn cases in Fresno where ATT Internet Services provided the Internet service. Especially cases where the accused had a conflict with the City Of Fresno or high ranking City of Fresno personnel. Other elements are simply handled by planting various elements of false evidence here and there once they enter a residence. That is why Fresno LE was so determined to get a search warrant for an official home entry in my case. As I've mentioned in the past Fresno LE had already illegally and secretly entered by home, copied my hard drives in order to get a good game plan for the eventual false arrest. There also appears to be a pattern here. Anyone who has ever talked publicly about, accused, or discussed Jerry Dyer's suposed sex scandle with that 16 year old girl has found themselfs in some type of legal peril within a few short years..And with this letter I have for certain signed my death warrant with Fresno LE.Kind Regards,John LangFresno Ca 93728 A picture that he posted to a news agency of the authorities outside his home with a thermal camera: Two posts he made just a day or so before his death: and It's all very fascinating, and I just wanted to see whether anyone else has been following this story because IF it turns out to be true...! Edited January 29, 2016 by PappyTron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gracii Guns Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I'm too deep into Making a Murderer to comment on this reasonably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 that is some creepy shit man. the burning down the house part make it even stranger, especially since this place was well secured. burning down the house is the ultimate way to destroy any kind of evidence, usually an average type of criminal doing this type of thing would go in hiding their identity and maybe some gloves, but going as far as to destroy try and destroy the house, either the suspect(or suspects) wanted to REALLY make sure all evidence was wiped, or they wanted to cover up the crime completely and make it look like an accidental fire. truly scary stuff though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bumblefeet Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Hmmm. After reading that open letter, I can't help but wonder if Mr. Lang is just trying to cover his bases and might actually have dabbled into child pornography. Having seen a documentary two weeks ago about a Belgian pedophile businessman with ties to the police (who got convicted but managed to flee the country), the lengths to which these individuals will go to lie and deceive investigators etc. is shocking. They will always present themselves as the victim, never taking responsibility for their misconduct. Also, which individual would fear police coming to their home when they have nothing to hide? He says they've already copied his hard drives (WTF?)?Either it's a paranoid person with mental problems or someone who is likely to be guilty of child pornography, but I think it's quite easy to rule out the possibility of the police trying to set him up. And yes, you could use the fire as saying "they're trying to cover it up", but what if he's actually guilty and he's trying to cover it up?I get the anti-police sentiment in the US right now, but sometimes a nutjob is simply a nutjob. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Surely if he was saying all this stuff publicly the filth wouldn't do him so obviously? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Hmmm. After reading that open letter, I can't help but wonder if Mr. Lang is just trying to cover his bases and might actually have dabbled into child pornography. Having seen a documentary two weeks ago about a Belgian pedophile businessman with ties to the police (who got convicted but managed to flee the country), the lengths to which these individuals will go to lie and deceive investigators etc. is shocking. They will always present themselves as the victim, never taking responsibility for their misconduct. Also, which individual would fear police coming to their home when they have nothing to hide? He says they've already copied his hard drives (WTF?)?Either it's a paranoid person with mental problems or someone who is likely to be guilty of child pornography, but I think it's quite easy to rule out the possibility of the police trying to set him up. And yes, you could use the fire as saying "they're trying to cover it up", but what if he's actually guilty and he's trying to cover it up?I get the anti-police sentiment in the US right now, but sometimes a nutjob is simply a nutjob.why would someone stab themselves repeatedly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 After having just skimmed through it I believe there is a possibility he tried to make his planned suicide-by-proxy look as if it was done by people in he police who he had a beef with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 After having just skimmed through it I believe there is a possibility he tried to make his planned suicide-by-proxy look as if it was done by people in he police who he had a beef with.why stab yourself though, kind of a hardcore way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 After having just skimmed through it I believe there is a possibility he tried to make his planned suicide-by-proxy look as if it was done by people in he police who he had a beef with.why stab yourself though, kind of a hardcore way to go. He got someone else to stab him. Not the first time that has happened. Insane people often dont' see things clearly, even when pain is involved. Just look at the ways people kill themselves, many weird and painful ways are chosen. Like jumping of a bridge. What the fuck? The panic of the fall and then probably the slow death from the impact. Besides, he could have asked his accomplice to give him a deadly stab first, like at the heart or throat, and then, post-mortem, if it worked out, which it probably didn't, afflict numerous additional stabs to make it more gruesome, because. after all, he wanted it as gruesome as possible to get the media attention. It didn't have to be "death by a hundred stabs" scenario.But I am just rambling. I haven't really read the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 all i can think of the scene from scream Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumblefeet Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 why would someone stab themselves repeatedly?Depression, drug use, mental problems:http://www.nydailynews.com/news/artie-lange-13-inch-kitchen-knife-violent-suicide-released-hospital-surgery-article-1.458394 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlisOld Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 all i can think of the scene from scream 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 (edited) all i can think of the scene from scream 'I'M GONNA RIP YOU UP YOU BITCH, JUST LIKE YOUR FUCKIN' MOTHER!'One of my favourite lines in film history Comes off better clutching a butcher knife covered in blood and with an American accent though! Edited January 29, 2016 by Len B'stard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spunko12345 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Is that him? He looks like the shopkeeper from League of Gentlemen I'm gonna say nonce. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Is that him? He looks like the shopkeeper from League of Gentlemen I'm gonna say nonce.How do you do it Holmes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PappyTron Posted January 29, 2016 Author Share Posted January 29, 2016 (edited) Is that him? He looks like the shopkeeper from League of Gentlemen I'm gonna say nonce.I didn't want to muddy the waters by saying "Please disregard the fact that he looks like something out of Royston Vasey." Edited January 29, 2016 by PappyTron 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheapJon Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 This is hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Nova Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 My first thought is that maybe someone took him up on his offer to go over and stay over that night...possibly someone that thought he was indeed a child molester....acted like he was there to help him....and basically took him out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 according to the fresno bee some of the stab wounds were to the upper back, i think that rules out stabbing himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlisOld Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 according to the fresno bee some of the stab wounds were to the upper back, i think that rules out stabbing himself.I could stab myself in the upper back. I don't though for personal reasons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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