PappyTron Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) I think that most people are 100% certain that OJ Simpson is guilty of killing his ex wife and the other bloke, but opinion on Knox seems to be more more divided with there being interesting points of view supporting both her guilt and innocence. I'd be interested to read your opinions on these two famous, though some would say infamous, people and their alleged crimes. I tend to lean towards Knox being guilty based on the break-in aspect being incredibly suspect, along with her boyfriend at the time changing his alibi multiple times and stating that he did it at Knox's behest. Then when you throw in Knox lying to the police which lead an innocent man to be jailed, her DNA being found commingled with the victim's blood, her and Sollecito being spotted by witnesses at a time she stated she was elsewhere, the inactivity on the computer when she and Sollecito stated they were using it, the bleach in the house when the housekeeper testified that there was never bleach in the house, the storekeeper of the local store stating that bleach had been purchased. On the flip-side, the prosecution bungled all of the forensics, just like they did in the OJ case, meaning that any good lawyer could and should pull it all apart. Edited February 5, 2016 by PappyTron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Foxy Knoxy was a bit of a looker if I recall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelica Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) Knox has obviously benefitted from being a young, attractive white girl. I think American jingoism also played a part in the perception of her being a railroaded innocent, even in the Italian trial hadn't been such a mess I doubt the public would've trusted a foreign country finding her guilty (which I suspect she is). I've never understood how anyone genuinely doubted OJ's guilt. Bungled prosecution or not the evidence was there, the history of domestic violence, the lack of alternate suspects etc. Never mind 'If I Did It'. Edited February 5, 2016 by Angelica 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 When reading the thread title I thought this was about them becoming a couple while in prison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Would you risk given Knoxy one, under the vague premonition that you might end up with your throat slit in the morning? Few pints and I would take the gamble. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Drama Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Would bang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsh327 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 OJ had a history of domestic violence going back to Buffalo but there was a lot done to keep it out of the media. If the odds are stacked against the defendant, the best they can hope for is hung jury or mistrial, or reduced sentence (especially if involves being a snitch). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axlslash Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 One of the biggest problems, if not the biggest, with the Knox trial, from the American perspective, is that she was acquitted at trial. In the American system, the prosecution cannot appeal if the acquittal was on the merits as opposed to for procedural mishaps. In other words, if the trial had been in the United States, it would have been the end. However, because it was in Italy, the prosecution got to appeal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JONEZY Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 The OJ not guilty verdict was all about getting back at the LAPD. Everyone knew he did it, even Johnnie Cochran and the rest of the Dream Team. By the way, anybody watching the mini-series on FX? Saw the 1st one the other night. So far, so good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axlslash Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 1 hour ago, JONEZY said: The OJ not guilty verdict was all about getting back at the LAPD. Everyone knew he did it, even Johnnie Cochran and the rest of the Dream Team. By the way, anybody watching the mini-series on FX? Saw the 1st one the other night. So far, so good. I haven't had a chance to watch yet, but it sounds amazing. Opie and Jimmy both love it, and they haven't done me wrong yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PappyTron Posted February 5, 2016 Author Share Posted February 5, 2016 4 hours ago, axlslash said: One of the biggest problems, if not the biggest, with the Knox trial, from the American perspective, is that she was acquitted at trial. In the American system, the prosecution cannot appeal if the acquittal was on the merits as opposed to for procedural mishaps. In other words, if the trial had been in the United States, it would have been the end. However, because it was in Italy, the prosecution got to appeal. Knox was found guilty at her original trial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axlslash Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 1 hour ago, PappyTron said: Knox was found guilty at her original trial. Right, my bad. I got my pieces confused. But in any event, from the point that the prosecution began appealing, the validity of the trial was suspect from the American perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PappyTron Posted February 5, 2016 Author Share Posted February 5, 2016 1 minute ago, axlslash said: Right, my bad. I got my pieces confused. But in any event, from the point that the prosecution began appealing, the validity of the trial was suspect from the American perspective. Oh, I agree. Americans struggle to understand the Italian way of doing things as it seems so alien to western law; no matter who wins the trial the standard procedure is for the other side to appeal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake-Pit Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Meredith Kercher was my age, from my town, and she was my type too by the looks of it... Getting killed in some drug fueled orgy going wrong (can happen to anyone)... So naturally, my heart goes out to Meredith Kercher. R.I.P 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelica Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 9 hours ago, axlslash said: I haven't had a chance to watch yet, but it sounds amazing. Opie and Jimmy both love it, and they haven't done me wrong yet. The first episode was fantastic, if the series had been released in its entirety I would've been up all night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spunko12345 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 8 hours ago, Snake-Pit said: Meredith Kercher was my age, from my town, and she was my type too by the looks of it... Getting killed in some drug fueled orgy going wrong (can happen to anyone)... Something you want to tell us Snakes? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 (edited) On 06/02/2016 at 8:10 AM, spunko12345 said: Something you want to tell us Snakes? Snakes was the fourth person in that equation and is responsible for shagging her to death What actually happened with this case, in a nutshell? Her and her mate shagged that Meredith bird to death or something? I remember it being in the papers but i could be bothered lookin' into it. I just assumed she was guilty because of her evil white woman face Edited February 9, 2016 by Len B'stard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake-Pit Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Just now, Len B'stard said: Snakes was the fourth person in that equation and is responsible for shagging her to death What actually happened with this case, in a nutshell? Her and her mate shagged that Meredith bird to death or something? I remember it being in the papers but i could be bothered lookin' into it. I just assumed she was guilty because of her evil white woman face 'cept I haven't been to Italy yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Just now, Snake-Pit said: 'cept I haven't been to Italy yet. Yeah well you would say that wouldnt you, you feel deviant pervo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake-Pit Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Just now, Len B'stard said: Yeah well you would say that wouldnt you, you feel deviant pervo Just stating my alibi before I get implicated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake-Pit Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Just because a girl my age from my town dies in a drug fueled orgy doesn't mean a thing anymore, neither does the police or an ambulance arriving to your party.. http://www.croydonguardian.co.uk/news/14244485.Teenagers_with_knives_and_bats_gatecrash_Croydon_child_s_birthday_party_and_stab_24_year_old_man_five_times/?ref=trn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake-Pit Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 But that said, r.i.p Meredith Kercher and I hope that 24yr old uncle pulls through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelica Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Well then... http://edition.cnn.com/2016/03/04/us/oj-simpson-property-knife/index.html?sr=fbCNN030416oj-simpson-property-knife0538PMVODtopLink&linkId=21929270 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunsguy Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 21 minutes ago, Angelica said: Well then... http://edition.cnn.com/2016/03/04/us/oj-simpson-property-knife/index.html?sr=fbCNN030416oj-simpson-property-knife0538PMVODtopLink&linkId=21929270 Wow, that (even if murder weapon) will not lead to another trial as he cannot be tried again for the same crime but may vindicate a few Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rock4eva Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 I don't really know much about OJ Simpson & his trial but assume he's guilty from the little I've heard or read. The handing in of this knife from someone who got it from someone who found it somewhere isn't likely to give up any new evidence & why was it held on to for so long before being handed in? I have only just read the Amanda Knox autobiography and rewatched the tv documentary and believe she's totally innocent. So much was stated in her book that didn't add up, didn't make sense and I can't imagine her to be the type of person to pull off such an horrendous murder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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