Popular Post Hamnerhead Posted February 8, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted February 8, 2016 ...And it's only a theory. I have no real evidence that isn't merely circumstantial, but it fits the circumstances *as we know them for right now*. First, I'll lay out a few key points: 1) A reunion has been announced officially between three original members: Axl, Slash, and Duff. 2) No other players have been announced officially. Frank Ferrer and Chris Pittman seemed to make it clear on social media they were involved somehow. Richard Fortus and Dizzy Reed announced that they were leaving the Dead Daisies to take part in a "momentous project." But there has been no official announcement from the band, and in fact, those members who alluded to this whole thing were asked to recant by management, as per Chris Pittman. 3) Izzy and Steven have gone completely quiet-- stayed quiet in Izzy's case. Adler is unusually silent, which would seem to indicate he's involved somehow. So here's my theory: They are trying to get things together with the Appetite lineup, at least in rehearsals. Fortus and Ferrer are there as insurance, in case Izzy disappears or Adler starts using again. I'll go even further-- if the AFD lineup makes it to actual shows, I bet F&F will be on tour with them on retainer in case something happens with Izzy and/or Adler at the last minute. They know the songs, they can just be plugged in, if need be. I know I'm a first-time poster, so who cares what I think. But it fits, in my opinion. Thoughts? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dazey Posted February 8, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted February 8, 2016 I think it's going to be Axl, Slash, Duff, Richard, Frank, Dizzy and Pitman with Izzy and Steven played occasionally. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babooshka Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 When this whole thing started, I didn't want nuGNR members anywhere near the band. But I'm at the point now where I don't really care. If Izzy and Steven can not get their shit together and commit, then I'm fine with Fortus and Frank/Matt. Chris will always be a no. My main preference is a stable line-up. I don't like the idea of numerous people coming and going, having two drummers etc. Give Izzy and Steven guest spots during the encore, or for one song and then call it day. If they can not step-up now, then they will never. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofnazareth Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 you may be right and I do not see Matt Sorum involved in this 'reunion' in any way, at any point in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchDemocracy Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Seeing the topic title, I immediately had to think about this one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamnerhead Posted February 8, 2016 Author Share Posted February 8, 2016 It may very well end up the mixed lineup. I just think that given all of the current info and silence, they're attempting a full reunion, and hedging that bet with F&F. I'd be fine with that, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamnerhead Posted February 8, 2016 Author Share Posted February 8, 2016 32 minutes ago, DutchDemocracy said: Seeing the topic title, I immediately had to think about this one. I was, of course, in drag when I started the thread. Very astute of you to notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-GenerationX Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 I doubt it. You'd want to advertise the original 5 if you could. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archtop Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 To have Frank and Richard along as understudies, just in cast Izzy or Steven flake out does not make sense and would be rude to all four. I think we will see the regrouping play out over several shows, let Axl, Slash and Duff get a feel for each other again. Izzy seems cool with all three, so he's probably happy to let them take the lime light, he will make an appearance unexpectedly with little fuss. I think Later in the year or 2017 is probably when we will see all 5 + whoever. Stevens probably has a bigger grasp than all of us what it means to have Axl and Slash working together, he's keeping quiet because at last thing are moving fordward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forsaken Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 To the general public, Slash and Duff are the two main missing pieces to GN'R. It will be Slash and Duff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtle Signs Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Ferrer and Fortus are obviously in. Maybe if they want to play stadiums again in the States in 2017,then they'll advertise AFD 5 shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamnerhead Posted February 8, 2016 Author Share Posted February 8, 2016 Why aren't Ferrer and Fortus announced, then? If they're locked in, why not announce them as part of the lineup with Slash and Duff? Seems just as rude to me. It makes sense to advertise Slash and Duff, because if nothing else, they can be counted on to show up and play the songs. Those guys commit. Izzy and Steven are a couple of question marks, and always have been. I mean, look... you guys are probably right. Like I said, this is nothing but parlor game speculation. But me... I just don't think the accepted narrative explains Adler's silence, nor does it explain the lack of an announcement of all the players in the band. There's more here than meets the eye, and I would bet a little money that some attempt at rehearsing the AFD lineup in secret has gone down or is going down. If it doesn't work, you just plug in F&F and call it a day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caught_in_a_Coma Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 (edited) Interesting theory and welcome to the board Edited February 8, 2016 by Caught_in_a_Coma 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtle Signs Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 40 minutes ago, Hamnerhead said: Why aren't Ferrer and Fortus announced, then? If they're locked in, why not announce them as part of the lineup with Slash and Duff? Seems just as rude to me. It makes sense to advertise Slash and Duff, because if nothing else, they can be counted on to show up and play the songs. Those guys commit. Izzy and Steven are a couple of question marks, and always have been. I mean, look... you guys are probably right. Like I said, this is nothing but parlor game speculation. But me... I just don't think the accepted narrative explains Adler's silence, nor does it explain the lack of an announcement of all the players in the band. There's more here than meets the eye, and I would bet a little money that some attempt at rehearsing the AFD lineup in secret has gone down or is going down. If it doesn't work, you just plug in F&F and call it a day. What's the point of announcing Ferrer and Fortus. They won't sell ANY additional tickets. That's why you only see and read about Axl,Slash,Duff in the Coachella /Vegas/Mexico ads and videos. If we get Izzy and Adler at select shows that's a bonus. Nobody outside of their immediate friends and family is there to see Frank and Richard play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamnerhead Posted February 9, 2016 Author Share Posted February 9, 2016 1 hour ago, Subtle Signs said: What's the point of announcing Ferrer and Fortus. They won't sell ANY additional tickets. That's why you only see and read about Axl,Slash,Duff in the Coachella /Vegas/Mexico ads and videos. If we get Izzy and Adler at select shows that's a bonus. Nobody outside of their immediate friends and family is there to see Frank and Richard play. Come on... not even a mention in the press release as returning members? When there's a whole band, they at least include their names somewhere in the release, maybe even a band photo. These are band members that have been playing to audiences as GN'R for years, at this point. You'd only leave out their names for a purpose. And again, Adler is silent. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 ...there can only be one Larry David. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamnerhead Posted February 9, 2016 Author Share Posted February 9, 2016 Prett-ay, prett-aaaaaaayyy true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 4 hours ago, Hamnerhead said: Come on... not even a mention in the press release as returning members? When there's a whole band, they at least include their names somewhere in the release, maybe even a band photo. These are band members that have been playing to audiences as GN'R for years, at this point. You'd only leave out their names for a purpose. And again, Adler is silent. Why? Good question.. Unfortunately since no one in GNR knows how to communicate,and now with slash and duff falling back in line under captain axls orders, it's a tough call for sure as to what is actually going on. I'm really not sure myself, everybody else is sold based on clues but then again, until we get an official announcement we don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold top 78 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 I think the hybrid line up will be the way forward for 2016 and probably beyond with Adler and izzy making appearances here and there. But I've been wonderering recently if frank and fortus are full time this year then making way for the original 5 + dizzy next year. Maybe izzy is testing the water before fully committing and Adler will have to prove himself to the rest of the band first about staying sober and keeping his mouth shut. It sounds a bit crazy but with GNR nothing is simple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 (edited) 8 hours ago, Hamnerhead said: Come on... not even a mention in the press release as returning members? When there's a whole band, they at least include their names somewhere in the release, maybe even a band photo. These are band members that have been playing to audiences as GN'R for years, at this point. You'd only leave out their names for a purpose. And again, Adler is silent. Why? Adler’s silent because he’s on his best behaviour on the off chance that he gets to make an appearance or two and doesn’t want to blow it. Nobody gives a shit about Ferrer and Fortus so there’s no point in mentioning them and this is being marketed as a classic GnR reunion tour so why would they be mentioned? Basically they’re announcing the names of the classic line-up members who are confirmed as full band members. Axl, Slash and Duff are the only full members and that’s all there is to it. Adler and Izzy are probably going to show up but only in a guest capacity so they haven’t been mentioned either. Frank and Richard will be the full time drummer and rhythm guitar players and will step aside for a song or two if Izzy decides to show up and if Axl throws Adler a bone. Edited February 9, 2016 by Dazey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 (edited) 5 hours ago, Hamnerhead said: Prett-ay, prett-aaaaaaayyy true. ... ... ... ... (I'm suspicious music). Edited February 9, 2016 by Tom2112 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stress Fracture Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 My theory hasn't changed. There will inevitably be AFD30 shows next year with Steven and Izzy. It makes marketing a 12-song set a lot easier when it's the only time you'll get to see the classic 5. Until then we get Frank and Richard playing November Rain and Estranged with pyro going off all over the place. Basically, we get to do the whole reunion thing twice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumblefeet Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 7 hours ago, Tom2112 said: ...there can only be one Larry David. I thought you were suppose to be Bernie Sanders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake-Pit Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 (edited) I've got a theory... Edited February 9, 2016 by Snake-Pit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 This is what I predict, Guns N' Roses Axl, Slash, Duff Backing Musicians Fortus, Ferrar, Dizzy (perhaps Pitman also) Guest Musicians Adler, Stradlin, Sorum, (perhaps Gilby also). To all intents and purposes, GN'R are a trio. The guest musicians will be slotted around specific dates a la Stones/Mick Taylor/Bill Wyman. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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