06/29/16 - Kansas City - Arrowhead Stadium

[DPR714]

15 minutes ago, tsinindy said:

Dude relax...I totally get and understand all that.  I actually defended the tempo a bit last night.  But damn there are just some songs that feel terribly sped up.  And that's fine, except some songs lose their groove and bluesy appeal when that happens.  My opinion of course.   And shove the listening to the record statement up your ass.  That's just silly.

 

Listen to 3:00- 3:50 "Dude."

... and I am relaxed thanks.  Have a good day.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[AnEskimo]

The band is staying at the hotel we stayed at. Intercontinental in downtown KC. we saw Duff get on the shuttle last night but security was pretty tight. No sign of them this morning.

[SerenityScorp]

This is cool

[jayrod737]

6 hours ago, maxpax said:

Me, too. Its because GnR didn't just cover the song...its like hendrixs all along the watchtower. they invented it and made it their own. One of the best "covers" in music history.

 

KOHD and PC are really annoying on this tour. I miss the UYI vibe in these songs. Even Gilby knows how to play it the right way... 

 

yeah, they really need to do KOHD UYI style again. 

And why is Axl blowing the whistle twice on Paradise City?  It should only be blown once, right? "lookout!" and whistle don't go in the same spot! Cmon Axl! watch your video...

 

[Lancelot]

1 hour ago, Vissud said:

I was at the KC show and all I can say is, the negative comments here do not match what I saw.  Yes, there were some sound mix issues here and there, but from where I stood, Row 8 from the stage, they sounded tight and everything was a lot of fun.  Guy sitting next to me, his last Guns show was the St. Louis riot show, and he was blown away.  Heard that a lot as I walked out.  People blown away at how good it was.

Do you think that the low turnout was partially due to the riot years ago?

[Vissud]

Just now, Lancelot said:

Do you think that the low turnout was partially due to the riot years ago?

I don't know what you mean by low turnout.   When I would turn around during the show, it looked like every seat available was full.

1 hour ago, DPR714 said:

Somewhere many pages ago someone posted that Jungle was way too fast. I thought, as a drummer, I would do a comparison just to see. I used a Periscope of the song from the Kansas city show and from some other shows. 

Kansas City (Avery Drury Periscope) ---124 BPM (Beats Per Minute) Ferrer on Drums

AFD CD ---123 BPM Adler on Drums

Paris '92-- 124 BPM Sorum on Drums

Ritz NY-- 130 BPM Adler on Drums

 

'nuff said.

The

[Un42nutzly]

2 hours ago, 77Jesters said:

I'd like to see more solo album and related band songs getting played, or at least noodled around with...  I think this will come later in the tour though..

https://youtu.be/5pWdY1sMj7g?t=20m29s

even a medley could work if done well, some fans may not pick all the tunes, but that's just reward for those that have stuck with them through all the fuckin' shit...

 

 

 

Not gonna happen... - besides Slither - we will not be seeing any Slash solo / related band's music with GNR. If anything we will see more deep cut Guns tunes played. 

[davhern]

1 hour ago, BuckinTN said:

Does anyone know when tickmaster releases the weekly concert grosses? 25,000 seems very low for a stadium. That is not much better than an arena crowd. Have to think they were expecting 45-55k each night. Like it's been mentioned before , a little promotion would have been nice. Axl did more promoting with ACDC.

To be fair, Kansas City is a pretty small city among "major" cities.

[Vissud]

4 minutes ago, davhern said:

To be fair, Kansas City is a pretty small city among "major" cities.

I don't know where this 25,000 number is coming from.  The stadium was pretty packed and I haven't seen an official release.  I've been to world series games there (Kaufman is next door) with less traffic.   It looked closer to 50,000 when I was looking around.  If it really had only been 25000 I'm pretty sure empty sections would be obvious.

[nikosgnr]

2 hours ago, SerenityScorp said:

Yeah.

 

When GN'R April Show, I kinda wish NuGN'R Ex Member could come to the show showing some respect, support or something. I thought DJ could come on Vegas show.

But seeing Tommy on this show, It shows Him tht He really love the Band or Axl, or Both

You know, they don't have to. This era has ended.. I think Ashba wasn't in Vegas at the time. Although he has shown his respect within his interviews.

Tommy on the other hand has a great relatioship with Axl until now. As far as I know..

[BuckinTN]

I think that the ticketmaster maps we have been getting are wrong. The one for KC looked like the upper bowl was even sold out and it turns out they closed it off. Wonder how Chicago will look? First show was probably close to selling out. Wonder about Sunday.

[AxlsFavoriteRose]

12 hours ago, rock4eva said:

I just love Melissa's hair, wish I was in my 20s again

when i saw you wrote that i immediately thought of this

you're never too old! 

Edited June 30, 2016 by AxlsFavoriteRose

[IncitingChaos]

I heard 50,000 last night, but awesome about the show being Amazinh in person again! We were feeling Axl was a bit off from his normal 2016 tear

[tyj989]

Quick review:  I've been waiting since 1992 to see Guns and I was not disappointed.  Show was fantastic.  Axl, Slash, Duff, all sounded amazing.  25k number is waaaaaay off.  That number was plucked out of thin air.  I ran the sound at Arrowhead Stadium for the Chiefs for many years and work at the active rock station in KC which puts on a 55k person show every summer.  I estimate around 40k.

Edited June 30, 2016 by tyj989

[6lake sa66ath]

Haha, gotta hand it to some of the comments in here, way to bring every one back down to earth if you were on a high so far!

 

Funny that there's yet to be a bad press review or negative comments from people out there actually attending these shows!

 

Go figure!

 

[AxlsFavoriteRose]

3 hours ago, Eddie Money said:

Slither may be ready to go, meaning Frank and Richard have probably learned and rehearsed it, but there's a good chance that Axl hasn't taken time to learn or rehearse it with the band. He's been busy learning Touch Too Much and other ACDC classics. He can barely remember the lyrics to Civil War at times. I hope he learns it and they perform it here and there. It's a great song and would sound cool with Axl on it. 

had enough of AC/DC i want Think About You! 

2 hours ago, nelsontod said:

axl said home fuck

when did he say this? i missed it

[AxlsFavoriteRose]

9 hours ago, BorderlineCrazy said:

So, Izzy is releasing a new single with Matt on drums. Craziest year ever!

Ps: I think tonight's show was pretty awesome!

yes this year has been strange to say the very least....

[rock4eva]

26 minutes ago, AxlsFavoriteRose said:

when i saw you wrote that i immediately thought of this

you're never too old! 

Love it my friend. I'll keep an eye out for this colour. 

[ludurigan]

15 hours ago, Fitha_whiskey said:

The thunder and the rain has quietly passed us by-eeee-i. The weather is perfect. Everything's coming up Roses!

i cant believe they are actually having seats on the floor!

this is just as un-rock n roll as it gets!

[axlinkafayette]

If you think this show was less than full...wait till you see Sunday's crowd in chicago, i'll be there, but there won't be more than 20K

[moreblack]

6 hours ago, Philipm787 said:

Slash is stealing the show in this reunion, big time. His return was clearly the main draw to fans, and personally I'm glad he's upstaging everyone else. Don't really care what Axl sounds like personally because Slash is the main man. GNR fans seeing Slash play the hits again is the #1 draw in this reunion, and instead of trying to cover for Axl's poor vocals, we should be heaping a shit tonne of praise on Slash.

As a player, he's leveled up several times over the last few years, starting with VR's Libertad in 2007. I noticed then he started showing more dexterity and versatility in his leads from then onward.

[DizzyReed63]

These threads have become insufferable with nit-picky, "This player isn't doing what I want him to do, this song isn't perfect, I demand the GnR I KNOW AND LOVE AND THINK IS THE BEST" comments. Ya know, sometimes bands play a little faster when they're excited and having a good time. And nobody's f'n perfect.

Back on topic: The last two shows have been awesome. Like they're picking up steam and confidence. Great to see. The band sounds tighter than they did in Vegas, IMO. Axl still sounding great. If they can keep up this professional showmanship, they could actually play some other big national gigs!

Looking fwd to enjoying the show in person tomorrow night in Chicago.

 

[Ace Nova]

1 hour ago, Un42nutzly said:

Not gonna happen... - besides Slither - we will not be seeing any Slash solo / related band's music with GNR. If anything we will see more deep cut Guns tunes played. 

Locomotive or Dead Horse would be sweet.

[AFDFan8]

Here is my review of the show.  This and 50 cents will get you an unreliable truck stop rubber, so take it for what it's worth.

First and foremost, last night was the best concert I've ever been to and likely the best I will ever go to.  I was on the floor, section B row 8, seat 13.  I don't pay super close attention to how the songs are played to tell you if something was played too fast or too slow.  I drank about 8 beers before I made my way to my seat and I was there to party, not pick apart the performance or video tape the concert on my damn cell phone.  

Crowd:  From my vantage point, the crowd was electric.  There were middle aged men all around me hugging it out as if the last time they felt this way was 1992.  Everyone was on their feet the entire concert and most of the time everyone had their hands in the air screaming out the lyrics to each song.  I sure as shit know that I was.  There was no lack of energy coming from the crowd.  They did close off the entire upper deck and upgraded everyone who bought tickets up there to the main level.  The floor, main level and middle level looked to be 95% full.  Arrowhead holds 80k and I have to guess with the floor being 95% full there was around 40,000 people there.  I wish it would have sold a little better, but it was still a damn good crowd.

Axl: I thought Axl gave the show everything he had and he was amazing.  I appreciate that he played about half the concert with no hat/sunglasses on.  Being able to see his eye's makes it a much more real experience.  He was full of energy and looked to be having a great time.  I am a hard core AFD guy and I have never gotten into the Illusions songs very much, aside from You Could Be Mine and Civil War which in my opinion both still have the AFD Sound.  I have watched the 88 Ritz video in it's entirety about a thousand times.  I've watched a few of the UYI era shows on Youtube and I felt like Axl sounded about the same last night as he did on the UYI tour, which is pretty damn good considering it's 25 years later.  I didn't hear any mickey mouse tone, but his pitch on Sweet Child O' Mine, Rocket Queen and some other AFD songs definitely isn't the same as it was in 1988.   I wish people would stop commenting about Axl's weight.  I heard several people say things last night.  Axl looks fine for his age.  Slash is no thinner than Axl and nobody ever says anything negative about his appearance  Axl sure as shit wasn't lazy on stage last night.  His appearance is just fine  for a 54 year old.  I hope i still have that much hair when I'm 54.  

Slash:  Slash completely owned that show last night.  He was all over the stage and probably got more time on the big screen than anyone else.  He was dripping sweat the entire show and he never took any kind of break in the 2.5 hour set list.  Simply amazing and everything I was hoping to see.  Slash is by far my favorite guitar player and he gave me my money's worth last night.

Duff:  Duff was awesome as well.  He looks great and sounds great.  It is clear that this show is about Duff, Axl and Slash.  There were many times that the three of them were together at the center of the stage with everyone else way in the back out of the spotlight.  I could have done without Duff singing lead on one of the songs, but others around me were clearly into it.

Richard:  He was there and I could hear him playing his parts, but he's nothing special to me.  He was just fine.

Frank:  I wish Steven Adler was there.  I don't see what it would hurt to have Steven play the AFD songs and then have Frank play the rest.  I'm sure he would do it for free and he is clearly capable of handling the job.  Frank is nothing special to me, just another drummer.  The concert would have meant more to me if Steven were there.

Dizzy:  I've never been a fan of having a keyboard player in GNR but if there going to have one, I guess Dizzy is as good as anybody.  I could only really hear him playing on a few songs.  Otherwise I didn't even notice him most of the time.

Punk Rock Chick: I can't remember her name and I really don't know why she's there. I could hear her singing backup on a few songs but I cannot tell you what kind of sound she's adding to the band with her keyboard, headphones and double computer monitors. You could just put her on the side of the stage with a microphone and it would sound the same to me.

I will never give Richard, Frank, Dizzy or the Punk Rock Chick much credit because I don't feel like they deserve it.  They didn't risk it all like the 5 AFD guys did.  They didn't hitch hike their way from California to Seattle just so they could play in front of a crowd.  They didn't damn near starve to death and live in a storage unit.  They didn't go through hell to make it big.  Axl, Slash, Duff, Izzy and Steven did.  And for that they all have my ultimate respect.

Don't read too much into the order they were standing in when they gave the bow at the end of the show.  Axl is the one who rounded everyone up and it looked like wherever they were standing on the stage at that moment is where they ended up on the line.  No rime or reason to the order.

Setlist:  I agree with most that they need to lose some of the cover songs like the seeker and replace them with their own songs.  I would have liked to hear Yesterdays, My Michelle or any number of GNR songs instead of the covers.  And where the hell is Patience?  How can they use that as the song to announce the tour a few months ago and then not even play it?  That is a huge hit for them and I can't believe it's not in the setlist.  I was super happy to hear Out Ta Get Me.  Like I said earlier I'm a huge AFD guy and I love that song.  My favorite song of the night was You Could Be Mine.  The energy from the crowd was at it's peak when that song was played.  It was awesome just to be a part of that.  I missed Don't Cry because I had to piss so bad.  Before I got to my seat I bought a 24oz bud light to drink while they were changing over the equipment from Alice in Chains to GNR.  By about the 2 hour mark in the show I was literally in pain I had to piss so bad.  After Nighttrain I couldn't hold it anymore and I freaking ran from my seat on the floor to the closest bathroom and then ran back.

Bottom Line:  This was an amazing experience and I'm so glad I could witness it.  I'm forever grateful that God put these guys on earth and gave them their gifts.  GNR is my favorite band and a part of me is now whole because I have seen them live, even if it's only 3/5ths of them.

 

[Un42nutzly]

5 minutes ago, Kasanova King said:

Locomotive or Dead Horse would be sweet.

I think Bad Obsession would fit great in the setlist! Groovy song that would get the band + crowd moving.