Anyone else pleased that Axl hasn't abandoned Chinese? And how do Slash fans feel about him playing on CD-era songs?

[moreblack]

He's made the solos better so it's a win win, the songs might kill the momentum of the set a little but not much.

[jekylhyde]

I absolutely love the fact that they're playing Chinese Democracy -songs (the title track and Better great songs IMO). It's so cool to see/hear Slash and Duff playing those tracks. I like this hybrid line-up (Fortus FTW). It gives me hope that this isn't only about nostalgia. That there is new music coming some day.

Great time to be a Gn'R-fan!

[SWINGTRADER]

Maybe one of many reasons  why Izzy didn't agree to be in this "reunion" is because he would have had to play these CD songs. Who knows? 

 

[Bumblefeet]

For me the idea of Slash performing on CD songs was not that far fetched after Duff already did so (CD, Better, Catcher, ...).

Question I'm having now is can Slash sort out the unreleasable mess that is apparently CD 2 and fine tune those songs?

[donny]

3 minutes ago, SWINGTRADER said:

Maybe one of many reasons  why Izzy didn't agree to be in this "reunion" is because he would have had to play these CD songs. Who knows? 

 

izzy was on the CD tour in 2012 so it cant bother him that much

[Towelie]

1 minute ago, Bumblefeet said:

For me the idea of Slash performing on CD songs was not that far fetched after Duff already did so (CD, Better, Catcher, ...).

Question I'm having now is can Slash sort out the unreleasable mess that is apparently CD 2 and fine tune those songs?

His reworking of Better suggests he can.

[donny]

slash is now a member of GNR again and chinese is a GNR album, why are people surprised that the GNR lead guitarist is playing GNR songs ?

[h2sublime]

I enjoy both the Slash records and Chinese Democracy. I really like hearing Duff and Slash take on that material. I think it sounds more like Guns N' Roses if you know what I mean.

[SoundOfAGun]

15 minutes ago, Towelie said:

Bumblefoot is an exceptional player. You may not like what his style, but you can't deny the mans a beast on the axe.

I haven't at any point said that he isn't technically accomplished, but that doesn't make him exceptional or a beast on the guitar. Maybe you could specify why he is so far ahead of Slash in the technical side of things? What is it that he can do that Slash would never be able to? 

[jmapelian]

5 minutes ago, SoundOfAGun said:

I haven't at any point said that he isn't technically accomplished, but that doesn't make him exceptional or a beast on the guitar. Maybe you could specify why he is so far ahead of Slash in the technical side of things? What is it that he can do that Slash would never be able to? 

bumblefoot could fuck up every GnR song, consistently, too the point I couldn't listen to them

[Gackt]

Hey, no hating on Bumble, he's definitely a strong 3rd in best lead guitarists for GnR 

 

[Ender04]

I´m glad this lineup is playing the CD songs.  It´s part of the GnR history, like it or not. I would have been pissed if CD songs hadn´t been on the setlists. Kudos for Slash and Duff playing the CD material. 

I´m not immediately in love with this new version of Better, and I´d prefer to hear some other CD songs above CD en TIL, like Madegaskar, Catcher or TWAT. I´d love to hear what this line up would make of those.

[Axl owns dexter]

First off, calling fans of the old band mullet-heads is pretty lame and borderline autistic.

I was lukewarm on Chinese Democracy, but Slash bringing his own style to these songs has kind of rekindled my interest in them. I'm hopeful we will get a new release because the old creative differences (which is really the main reason they broke up) seem to have been minimized. 

[Bards]

1 hour ago, Towelie said:

Bullshit.

Plenty of GNR fans enjoyed Chinese. And even the fans that didn't aren't all like the knobheads who think GNR ended in 1989 when Steven Adler left.

I don't know what drugs you're on, but it's only polite that you share.

 

I don't want to hear Slash and Duff's take on Axl's solo stuff. I don't want to hear Axl's take on VR stuff. When I spend a rather large amount of money on a GNR show, I want to hear GNR doing GNR songs. Radical idea, I know. 

[Towelie]

9 minutes ago, Axl owns dexter said:

First off, calling fans of the old band mullet-heads is pretty lame and borderline autistic.

 

I'm a huge fan of the old band myself, you've taken it out of context. I'm referring to the nutjobs who think AFD is the only true GNR album.

[sonofnazareth]

I am just glad that they haven't stopped rehearsing TWAT..I really like that song. 

[Axl owns dexter]

3 minutes ago, Towelie said:

I'm a huge fan of the old band myself, you've taken it out of context. I'm referring to the nutjobs who think AFD is the only true GNR album.

Oh ok, well that is a ridiculous opinion I agree. Just thought you were a little aggressive there.

[Nosaj Thing]

Chinese Democracy is a piece of shit album and will always be with or without Slash and Duff.  The guitar parts were never the problem.  I liked what Finck and Buckethead did for some of the songs.  In order to make that album enjoyable you need to re-work on the songs completely - from scratch, and that would turn Chinese Democracy into NOT Chinese Democracy so what's the point?

This I Love is probably the worst ballad I have ever heard.  Dumb, cheesy lyrics that I will never be able to digest.  However, in 2010 Axl delivered a good performance of the song so I kind of enjoyed that by just blocking my mind and not paying attention to the horrid lyrics.  Now that Slash has added an incredibly awesome solo to the song... the song is still shit, because as I said before, the solo was never the problem.

I don't mind seeing Slash doing what Axl wants, because I'm sure it is a nice gesture to play "his" songs in these reunion shows.  I think the same it is for Coma, I don't think Axl decided to add the song to the setlist.  It was just a Slash/Duff decision and Axl moved along with it.  In the end, that's how partnership works.  I do wish though they do not play more CD songs and dust off more UYI songs which they should be playing instead.  Sure, make the shows longer by adding CD songs, but do not play them instead of UYI deep cuts.

[sonofnazareth]

14 minutes ago, Nosaj Thing said:

Chinese Democracy is a piece of shit album and will always be with or without Slash and Duff.  The guitar parts were never the problem.  I liked what Finck and Buckethead did for some of the songs.  In order to make that album enjoyable you need to re-work on the songs completely - from scratch, and that would turn Chinese Democracy into NOT Chinese Democracy so what's the point?

This I Love is probably the worst ballad I have ever heard.  Dumb, cheesy lyrics that I will never be able to digest.  However, in 2010 Axl delivered a good performance of the song so I kind of enjoyed that by just blocking my mind and not paying attention to the horrid lyrics.  Now that Slash has added an incredibly awesome solo to the song... the song is still shit, because as I said before, the solo was never the problem.

I don't mind seeing Slash doing what Axl wants, because I'm sure it is a nice gesture to play "his" songs in these reunion shows.  I think the same it is for Coma, I don't think Axl decided to add the song to the setlist.  It was just a Slash/Duff decision and Axl moved along with it.  In the end, that's how partnership works.  I do wish though they do not play more CD songs and dust off more UYI songs which they should be playing instead.  Sure, make the shows longer by adding CD songs, but do not play them instead of UYI deep cuts.

TWAT has a great descending chord pattern though..it reminds me of Gimme Shelter. 

[sonofnazareth]

40 minutes ago, Towelie said:

I'm a huge fan of the old band myself, you've taken it out of context. I'm referring to the nutjobs who think AFD is the only true GNR album.

hmm, all the AFD only lovers should be escorted to the nearest mental institute! 

Alot of them grew up with Appetite around 88', and didn't like the style of the new members and epic ballads on the UYI albums. I don't think its fair to call them 'nutjobs'..they just preferred the 'rock n' roll' aspect of GNR that was lost. 

[CardinalGunner]

2 hours ago, Patience 4 Axl said:

 If it weren't for "AFD5 mullet head purists" you would never have this regrouping in the first place.  And if you think it was nuGNR fans who kept this band alive and relevant for the past 20 years, you're delusional. 

Some of us appreciate all eras of GnR.

Shouldn't be anymore reason for us vs them.   

Slash and Duff get to rejoin the band which is great for everyone, and by including some CD material, they help lend some legitimacy to that era of Guns while at the same time adding their own stamp to it. 

Should be a win win for everyone.

[Nosaj Thing]

2 hours ago, Towelie said:

Slash and Duff playing on This I Love is no different than them playing on November Rain or Estranged.

What a dumb comment.

[Karlifornia]

I liked CD. I listened to it for what it was and took it on it's on merits. There is a bit that I skip but for the most part I do enjoy the album. I think it deserves its place in the setlist despite the fact the old fans have no time for it. 

Im thrilled TSI songs are making the set too. To see Attitude pop up was great. Would love to see more UYI songs make the cut. ESPECIALLY BAD OBSESSION!

But thats not the topic we're discussing. CD should not be ignored. It has its place. 

[PsychoKiss344]

I'm glad Axl kept the Chinese Democracy songs on this tour cause I really like that album, wish they would play Sorry though.

& as a big Slash fan I love what he has done on those songs so far, I think it opens it up for new music 

[thunderram]

There's far too much whining, complaining and hyperbole going on in this thread. Do you guys like GNR or not? I don't get it. If these songs are the "worst things ever", what the hell are you doing here? You might want to ask yourself that question.

As a lifelong fan of GNR, and all of the individual members work, I enjoyed the entire experience the past 2 nights. My son and I are still on a high over it. Sure, some moments were better than others, but there wasn't a bad moment in the 2 1/2 hours.

While I enjoyed parts of the CD album and Axl's ever-changing lineup of musicians over the years, I definitely fall into the classic and UYI lineup crowd. Having said that, I really enjoyed all of the CD songs that were performed. Fortus is a fantastic guitarist and a nice fit with Slash thus far. I wasn't much of a fan of Ferrer going in, but came out pleased with what I heard this weekend. Despite the criticism from some fans, I didn't hear anything awful. I think too many fans obsess over mundane details. Oddly, I think many of those same fans were the ones that blasted Axl for obsessing over the creation of CD for so damn long. Go figure.